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cmdrdredd

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I saw it downloading some times at like 3mb/sec and was like wtf...

I am on 100mb down so it shouldn't have taken as long as it did but whatever.

I tried it out this morning and I don't know how Gears 5 looks on X1 but it looks fantastic on XSX. I almost feel like how smooth it is gives me a headache when it moves quickly and when you turn, almost like the motion sickness feeling from VR lol. I definitely noticed that feeling at first but quickly think I got used to it. I noticed that on Demon's Souls too when I played it initially but I don't feel that way anymore.

I’ve noticed some wildly fluctuating download speeds. I can sometimes barely get 30Mbps and other times it jumps to 800-900Mbps
 

sze5003

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The opening of the game looked washed out and bland on purpose. Once you pass the prolog, it’s much better.

Black level low is proper for your TV. Set your luminance to 800 as that’s the upper limit of the Lg OLEDs. I have a CX myself
Oh alright I'm still in the prologue area. Want to do all the events there and then I will see. 800 is what the luminance is set to now.
 
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Aikouka

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I see it now, it does have an X/S icon in the game info section. One thing I think is broken in this game is the HDR. All my other titles on xbox except Red dead 2 look great in HDR. Fenyx looks washed out similar to red dead 2.

I've played with the luminance setting and set it 800 and 1000 and I think I made it a bit better. I've ran the built in HDR calibration app on the series X too. Must just be the game itself. Tv is an oled lg C8 in game mode with black level set to low. Haven't had issues on the ps5 or other titles so I don't want to mess with the tv settings just for one game.

Overall, I think the game is just far too bright. My TV's max luminance is about 1000-1200, and I have it set to 1000 in the game. (When you're setting the value you should visibly see a luminance change with each move of the slider.) When you exit the game, holy cow... everything looks so dim. It quite literally takes my eyes 10-15 minutes to adjust to normal brightness levels (i.e. no longer seeing them as "dim"). Since the game has a bad habit of seemingly making everything the sun touches really bright, I think I might tinker with it a bit and try either 600 or 800.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Overall, I think the game is just far too bright. My TV's max luminance is about 1000-1200, and I have it set to 1000 in the game. (When you're setting the value you should visibly see a luminance change with each move of the slider.) When you exit the game, holy cow... everything looks so dim. It quite literally takes my eyes 10-15 minutes to adjust to normal brightness levels (i.e. no longer seeing them as "dim"). Since the game has a bad habit of seemingly making everything the sun touches really bright, I think I might tinker with it a bit and try either 600 or 800.

Does tour TV have HGIG? You can try that setting and calibrate the console’s HDR in the settings when it is enabled. Not sure if that will help.
 

sze5003

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Overall, I think the game is just far too bright. My TV's max luminance is about 1000-1200, and I have it set to 1000 in the game. (When you're setting the value you should visibly see a luminance change with each move of the slider.) When you exit the game, holy cow... everything looks so dim. It quite literally takes my eyes 10-15 minutes to adjust to normal brightness levels (i.e. no longer seeing them as "dim"). Since the game has a bad habit of seemingly making everything the sun touches really bright, I think I might tinker with it a bit and try either 600 or 800.

I find 800 to be a decent value, for me the colors just don't pop as much as I think they should compared to other hdr titles.

I guess it will also depend on your tv model too. As stated earlier maybe this is a thing only in the prologue area but I guess I will find out when I get out of there.

I've seen a few threads in the subreddit too regarding the hdr implementation being wonky for both ps5 and series x.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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I'm about 12 hours into the game so far, and it's not so bad. I'm currently not even done with the first section (Aphrodite) yet. Probably the most fun thing for me in the game -- as is likely true for most open world games -- is when a game tells you "Oh, you can't do that yet!", and you find a way to do it anyway. In this game, you may end up seeing prompts stating that you do not have a specific Godly Power to do a chest or a Vault of Tartarus. For example, there's a chest on the first starter island that you cannot grab without an upgrade to Herakles's bracers. (It's the upgrade to let you pull and carry heavier items.) In that case, I just went up above, grabbed a big rock, and tossed it on the pressure pad. (I also had to drop a Phospho-based clone to get enough weight.) There was a vault where it stated that I needed an upgrade (one of the vaults with an Aphrodite's Tear), but I made it through the vault pretty easily.

Although, speaking of vaults, I did my least favorite one of all... Medusa's Lair. Awkwardly enough, even though Medusa is shown in an in-game video, this is not a boss vault. The vault has a ton of air vents and lasers, and you have to fly through said lasers. I can tell you now that if you die in a vault, you simply go back to the last checkpoint in the vault. Even if you fall with no health, you simply are returned with a sliver of health. I can attest to this with much experience as I fell down many... many times. My recommendation is to avoid using the gliding speed upgrade (it's a purchased upgrade). The problem is that you need to be able to stop and have an air vent raise you up to the correct height, and I find it really hard to stop when you're moving really quickly. Also, the same dungeon has a chest in it that is far easier to get if you have the in-air slowdown when charging a bow upgrade. It is possible to get it without it (I did), but it's a very tight timer.

A couple thoughts on abilities...
  1. Phospho includes an upgrade that allows you to sneak around without being under cover. It's a really handy way to get a sneak attack on enemies that are more or less out in the open.
  2. I would strongly recommend considering getting both the Athena's Shield and Haephistos's Hammer abilities. The prior is a good single target damage ability (also adds a good amount of stun) and the latter is good for lots of smaller enemies. Just note that these have a pretty hefty stamina cost, so you can't spam them too easily.
  3. The magnetic pick-up ability is actually quite handy for one specific thing... getting Pomegranates out of trees. Given that pomegranates are used to make health potions, they are quite handy and the trees are the fastest way to get them.
  4. I recommend grabbing the ability upgrades that let you move faster with an overall less stamina drain. Stamina can be a heavily limiting factor in some earlier tests. The Odysseus tests, which involve firing Apollo's arrow through successive axe hilts is one area where you may need stamina pots in addition to finish them. (Along those lines, I prefer the armor that gives stamina.)
  5. Using the gear that gives you 150% damage against an uninjured enemy can be dastardly when combined with Herakle's bracers as you can shave a huge amount of health off by throwing a rock at an unsuspecting monster. I've dealt over 2000 damage in a single throw using this.

Does tour TV have HGIG? You can try that setting and calibrate the console’s HDR in the settings when it is enabled. Not sure if that will help.

I think my TV is just a little too old for that. I ended up turning it down to 800, and it seemed to be a lot better.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I think my TV is just a little too old for that. I ended up turning it down to 800, and it seemed to be a lot better.

Ok HGIG is fairly new(I think a couple years) but seems to help avoid double tone mapping and blowing out the highlights on my OLED.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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I'm about 12 hours into the game so far, and it's not so bad. I'm currently not even done with the first section (Aphrodite) yet. Probably the most fun thing for me in the game -- as is likely true for most open world games -- is when a game tells you "Oh, you can't do that yet!", and you find a way to do it anyway. In this game, you may end up seeing prompts stating that you do not have a specific Godly Power to do a chest or a Vault of Tartarus. For example, there's a chest on the first starter island that you cannot grab without an upgrade to Herakles's bracers. (It's the upgrade to let you pull and carry heavier items.) In that case, I just went up above, grabbed a big rock, and tossed it on the pressure pad. (I also had to drop a Phospho-based clone to get enough weight.) There was a vault where it stated that I needed an upgrade (one of the vaults with an Aphrodite's Tear), but I made it through the vault pretty easily.

Although, speaking of vaults, I did my least favorite one of all... Medusa's Lair. Awkwardly enough, even though Medusa is shown in an in-game video, this is not a boss vault. The vault has a ton of air vents and lasers, and you have to fly through said lasers. I can tell you now that if you die in a vault, you simply go back to the last checkpoint in the vault. Even if you fall with no health, you simply are returned with a sliver of health. I can attest to this with much experience as I fell down many... many times. My recommendation is to avoid using the gliding speed upgrade (it's a purchased upgrade). The problem is that you need to be able to stop and have an air vent raise you up to the correct height, and I find it really hard to stop when you're moving really quickly. Also, the same dungeon has a chest in it that is far easier to get if you have the in-air slowdown when charging a bow upgrade. It is possible to get it without it (I did), but it's a very tight timer.

A couple thoughts on abilities...
  1. Phospho includes an upgrade that allows you to sneak around without being under cover. It's a really handy way to get a sneak attack on enemies that are more or less out in the open.
  2. I would strongly recommend considering getting both the Athena's Shield and Haephistos's Hammer abilities. The prior is a good single target damage ability (also adds a good amount of stun) and the latter is good for lots of smaller enemies. Just note that these have a pretty hefty stamina cost, so you can't spam them too easily.
  3. The magnetic pick-up ability is actually quite handy for one specific thing... getting Pomegranates out of trees. Given that pomegranates are used to make health potions, they are quite handy and the trees are the fastest way to get them.
  4. I recommend grabbing the ability upgrades that let you move faster with an overall less stamina drain. Stamina can be a heavily limiting factor in some earlier tests. The Odysseus tests, which involve firing Apollo's arrow through successive axe hilts is one area where you may need stamina pots in addition to finish them. (Along those lines, I prefer the armor that gives stamina.)
  5. Using the gear that gives you 150% damage against an uninjured enemy can be dastardly when combined with Herakle's bracers as you can shave a huge amount of health off by throwing a rock at an unsuspecting monster. I've dealt over 2000 damage in a single throw using this.



I think my TV is just a little too old for that. I ended up turning it down to 800, and it seemed to be a lot better.
I hate how I can't completely do everything in the prologue. I did some some of the items but the epic chest I can't get because the enemies have gold bars above the health and I have not at all been able to upgrade my character yet.

I also hate the controls. I don't like how I have to hold the d pad left to heal while in combat. It jsut makes for an awkward control scheme for even someone with big hands.
 

purbeast0

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Halo Infinite now scheduled for Fall 2021 release. Pretty big blow, but better than releasing it half-baked.

Inside Infinite – December 2020 | Halo Infinite | Halo - Official Site (halowaypoint.com)

Not surprising given the turmoil at 343 this year. Bringing Joseph Staten back on so late was a clear indication they were not even close to ready.
Delays are good in the end so that is fine by me.

They also better make damn sure that when they DO show it off for the next time that is blows everyone's mind. Like at this point, it pretty much has to be ground breaking or else it will be a disappointment.
 
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blckgrffn

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Delays are good in the end so that is fine by me.

They also better make damn sure that when they DO show it off for the next time that is blows everyone's mind. Like at this point, it pretty much has to be ground breaking or else it will be a disappointment.

Fall 2021 I don't care if it's 30 fps/720p on the old OG and S One's. It better have real shine. Most big Halo fans, I am guessing, are going to be fine having to move to a One X or better to have it really play well by next fall.

I know MS's stance on "no console left behind"
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I hate how I can't completely do everything in the prologue. I did some some of the items but the epic chest I can't get because the enemies have gold bars above the health and I have not at all been able to upgrade my character yet.

Yeah, there's one chest on the south-east island that you cannot get simply because the enemies are too tough. What I've seen is that you can gauge toughness by the color around an enemy. For example, the most basic enemies have that red glow to them. I can't recall when it happened... I think it was after I took out the Wraith in the Aphrodite area that the game updated all of the enemies (in that area?) to blue instead of red (or at least most of them changed).

The enemies on that island are purple. I'm not sure how that relates to their overall toughness, but it's higher than blue! I did try to fight them after a couple upgrades (maybe +2 to sword and axe), and I still got destroyed. I also tried to fight the boss that's in the tornado island over near Eros's place. I'm pretty sure she's also purple, and she ended up destroying me while I only took maybe 10% of her health away. (She's a harpy boss, so that made it a lot harder as I lack the self-pull upgrade.) Although, there is an Odysseus axe challenge near those purple monsters that you can do.

There's one vault that I can't get to right now because it's on a large stone pillar and there's a giant red mist around the pillar. Red mist will immediately sap all of your stamina, so you cannot climb up it. I'm guessing that I have to either do something to clear the mist or find a really high point to fly/glide from.

I also hate the controls. I don't like how I have to hold the d pad left to heal while in combat. It jsut makes for an awkward control scheme for even someone with big hands.

To be honest, you're really not supposed to be using the pomegranates. There's nothing wrong with it, but their effectiveness is really weak compared to potions, and even worse after you start upgrading potions. Right now, a single potion refills my entire health bar (7 blocks), and it takes 5 pomegranates to make one. Just eating the pomegranates would likely restore about 2 to 2.5 health blocks.

Although, I do agree that eating them in combat is not fun. You still have to hit the D-Pad to consume a potion, but at least it's just a single press, and you aren't forced to sit there holding the button to constantly consume multiple pomegranates.

I've actually gotten hit a few times in combat due to awkwardly and randomly mixing up my buttons. For some reason, I'll switch to thinking X is attack and RB is dodge, which as we know is the exact opposite. I'm tempted to switch the buttons around, but I'm not sure how I'd handle the axe. Maybe I could just swap X<->RB and Y<->RT. I'd have to make sure that these also work well when holding large rocks and such.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Fall 2021 I don't care if it's 30 fps/720p on the old OG and S One's. It better have real shine. Most big Halo fans, I am guessing, are going to be fine having to move to a One X or better to have it really play well by next fall.

I know MS's stance on "no console left behind"
when the first multiplayer Halo came ut a friend convinced me and several others to try it. He played Halo since its inception. I remember being on holiday break and trying to play it on the first night. XBL crashed over and over again. The game crashed over and over again until most people gave up around 2AM in the morning. We played until the sun came up since it got stable. Hadn't played Halo since that one night.
 

cmdrdredd

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Fall 2021 I don't care if it's 30 fps/720p on the old OG and S One's. It better have real shine. Most big Halo fans, I am guessing, are going to be fine having to move to a One X or better to have it really play well by next fall.

I know MS's stance on "no console left behind"

They have released a few screenshots from in game and it looks great.
 
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Commodus

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Recently, I am a happy owner of the xbox series x and I am very happy! It's fast, no problems and additionally 3 fans thanks to which I can play all the time !! Before buying, I was still thinking about the PS4, but I'm glad that I made such a choice because from what I read about PS4 there are a lot of problems that still have to be solved.

You mean the PS5, I take it.

My PS5 has been just fine; the biggest headache is upgrading a game to a PS5 version. Microsoft's Smart Delivery is much better for that. With that said, if you're happy with the Series X, more power to you! It's a good time to be a gamer (even if it sucks in most other aspects of life).
 

purbeast0

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The quick resume on XSX is incredible and I am appreciating it much more than I really thought I would.

The console powers on so quick and I get back into my Gears 5 campaign into the pause menu within like 5 seconds of turning my console on.

That is one thing it definitely has over PS5 by far. It seems like PS5 tries to do something like that and maybe games have to implement it, but like on Demon's Souls when I click "resume" it just takes me back to the normal game loading screen. It loads up fast and I'm into the game in less than 30 seconds, but still not as quick as XSX quick resume.
 

blckgrffn

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The quick resume on XSX is incredible and I am appreciating it much more than I really thought I would.

The console powers on so quick and I get back into my Gears 5 campaign into the pause menu within like 5 seconds of turning my console on.

That is one thing it definitely has over PS5 by far. It seems like PS5 tries to do something like that and maybe games have to implement it, but like on Demon's Souls when I click "resume" it just takes me back to the normal game loading screen. It loads up fast and I'm into the game in less than 30 seconds, but still not as quick as XSX quick resume.

Haha, using the Switch compared to the old One S was *brutal* in showing how much better optimized Nintendo was for stop/start gaming.

If a portable can do it, I expect my uber box to do it too. Even if it was only the last game that was being played (I mean, 90% of the time aren't we continuing the same game?)
 

Midwayman

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Fall 2021 I don't care if it's 30 fps/720p on the old OG and S One's. It better have real shine. Most big Halo fans, I am guessing, are going to be fine having to move to a One X or better to have it really play well by next fall.

I know MS's stance on "no console left behind"

I can't wait until they leave all the one's behind. Those jaguar cores are an anchor on what devs can do with core game design. Only so much you can fix by lowering render settings and lowering frame rates.
 
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Commodus

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I can't wait until they leave all the one's behind. Those jaguar cores are an anchor on what devs can do with core game design. Only so much you can fix by lowering render settings and lowering frame rates.

I can't help but worry that Microsoft's over-fondness for legacy support might hurt the Series X/S in the long run. That you'll still be seeing games that are Xbox One titles at heart with a few tweaks. Not that Sony isn't leaning on compatibility to some degree, but you can tell it's eager to move to PS5-only games fairly quickly.
 

Midwayman

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Hopefully they'll be smart about it at least. For example make a FPS player cap 128 on bf6 for ps5/xbsx/pc then older consoles get lower limits and cut down versions of the maps. I'm just worried things like physics and environmental interaction as a gameplay element gets dropped.
 

purbeast0

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I can't help but worry that Microsoft's over-fondness for legacy support might hurt the Series X/S in the long run. That you'll still be seeing games that are Xbox One titles at heart with a few tweaks. Not that Sony isn't leaning on compatibility to some degree, but you can tell it's eager to move to PS5-only games fairly quickly.
Yeah I think Ratchet and Clank will be the first true PS5 game.

While I am not a fan of HZD, it's a shame that HZD2 is a PS4 game. I'm sure it's going to hold it back from reaching it's true potential on PS5.
 

quikah

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Gears 5 DLC is getting some good buzz, and it looks amazing from the screenshots I have seen. Included with Gamepass Ultimate, otherwise it is $20. Only 3 or 4 hrs from what I have read, not sure it would be worth it to buy. Will try it out this weekend when I have more time to game.

Playing through Jedi Falling Order now, real shame they didn't update it for Series, the Kashyyk intro cutscene was super jerky (seemed like it was dropping frames). Game is slow enough that the 4K/30fps doesn't bother me too much. Quick resume has worked well for me with this, launches in about 5-10 seconds, until the game crashed on me and I had to go through all the dumb splash screens again.
 

purbeast0

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Walmart restock today at 3pm ET.

Once you see the "add to cart" button show up on Walmart for the item you want, click the link below. It's a direct add to cart link for the items.

DO NOT REFRESH IT. Let it spin.

If you get a 521 timeout error, THEN refresh it and wait again.

Even if the "add to cart" button on the listing page isn't working the links below should eventually work. It will take you directly to the cart with the item in your cart if it successfully worked.

XBOX SERIES X: https://affil.walmart.com/cart/buynow?items=443574645
XBOX SERIES S: https://affil.walmart.com/cart/buynow?items=606518560

I also recommend you are logged into your Walmart account with your shipping/credit card info already saved to speed things up.
 
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