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SteveGrabowski

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I'm seriously contemplating selling my XSX at this point.

The only downside is I'll have an empty spot on my shelf if I do so it'll look weird.

You're not impressed by all these cartoony shooter Overwatch clones?

I keep waiting for XBox to show me something I'd actually want to play.
 

SteveGrabowski

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LOL right as I say that, the Diablo 4 presentation starts lol. I'll definitely play this, but looks like I could run it pretty well on my 1660 Super.
 

purbeast0

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You're not impressed by all these cartoony shooter Overwatch clones?

I keep waiting for XBox to show me something I'd actually want to play.
I think the only thing that would get me excited at this point is a new Killer Instinct game.

I have recently been contemplating selling off some of my arcade stuff to help fund a second pinball machine and I may add the XSX to that pile if I ended up going that direction.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I think the only thing that would get me excited at this point is a new Killer Instinct game.

I have recently been contemplating selling off some of my arcade stuff to help fund a second pinball machine and I may add the XSX to that pile if I ended up going that direction.

I still have to think Elder Scrolls 6, Senua's Sacrifice 2, and a new SP Fallout that's gotta be coming at some point make it probably worth keeping. But Microsoft exclusives sure look like crap right now.
 

purbeast0

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I still have to think Elder Scrolls 6, Senua's Sacrifice 2, and a new SP Fallout that's gotta be coming at some point make it probably worth keeping. But Microsoft exclusives sure look like crap right now.
Only know what Elder Scrolls and Fallout are out of those 3, and have 0 interest in either of em.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Oh nice Persona 5 Royal to PC/XBox on October 21st. Wish it was Persona 3 FES and not Persona 3 Portable though coming to PC/XBox. I'll definitely be buying P5R on PC to play in Japanese since it'll be cheaper than importing the PS4 version from Japan.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Starfield looks pretty good. I'll probably need a gpu upgrade for it though. Don't see 1660 Super running this at anything better than Series S level, eg 1080p30 most likely.
 

quikah

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The plague tell game sequel looks good and so does the one Rick and Morty game. I may just buy a couple months of gamepass to play these titles when they come out. Aside from playing red dead 2 I have not used my series x much at all.

Very much looking forward to Plaguetale sequel. The first one was excellent. Starfield looks a bit better than I was expecting. Forza looks crazy good, but I am not that into sim racing. Flintlock is a maybe.

Lot of interesting smaller games shown. Will probably try out grounded again. I played it when they did the very first preview couple of years ago. It was pretty fun, but very limited. Interested to see what they have added to it. Pentiment looks interesting. High on Life should be a good time.
 

purbeast0

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Very much looking forward to Plaguetale sequel. The first one was excellent. Starfield looks a bit better than I was expecting. Forza looks crazy good, but I am not that into sim racing. Flintlock is a maybe.

Lot of interesting smaller games shown. Will probably try out grounded again. I played it when they did the very first preview couple of years ago. It was pretty fun, but very limited. Interested to see what they have added to it. Pentiment looks interesting. High on Life should be a good time.
If you are talking about what they showed today for Forza and that Hot Wheels thing, that was for Forza Horizon which is a lot more arcadey than normal Forza. It's not quite like Need for Speed arcade or Burnout style, but it's like a mix of NFS and Forza, like between there.

And I agree though, that Hot Wheels stuff looked pretty awesome.
 

quikah

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If you are talking about what they showed today for Forza and that Hot Wheels thing, that was for Forza Horizon which is a lot more arcadey than normal Forza. It's not quite like Need for Speed arcade or Burnout style, but it's like a mix of NFS and Forza, like between there.

And I agree though, that Hot Wheels stuff looked pretty awesome.

No, I am talking about Forza Motorsport, it is a new engine, next current gen only AFAICT.

The FH3 Hot Wheels DLC was very cool, the new one should be quite fun.
 
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JujuFish

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Their sales have progressively gotten worse and worse each console gen since the 360, with terrible hardware decision after decision with the Kinect and the Series S. And they are losing money on top of that with each piece of hardware sold.
First, there has been only one complete generation between the 360 and now, so it's immediately laughable to say sales have 'progressively gotten worse and worse each console gen since the 360', regardless of the sales. Second, the current generation is the fastest selling Xbox generation of all time. Third, Microsoft and Sony both lose money with each piece of hardware so they can take their cut from all the software sold once the customer is locked in.
 
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JujuFish

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Oh nice Persona 5 Royal to PC/XBox on October 21st. Wish it was Persona 3 FES and not Persona 3 Portable though coming to PC/XBox. I'll definitely be buying P5R on PC to play in Japanese since it'll be cheaper than importing the PS4 version from Japan.
Maybe I'll finally play a Persona game. I've always heard good things.
 
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purbeast0

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First, there has been only one complete generation between the 360 and now, so it's immediately laughable to say sales have 'progressively gotten worse and worse each console gen since the 360', regardless of the sales. Second, the current generation is the fastest selling Xbox generation of all time. Third, Microsoft and Sony both lose money with each piece of hardware so they can take their cut from all the software sold once the customer is locked in.
Thanks for the history lesson, but I know how it all works and has worked.

FOMO has also been real this current gen and has helped with sales of both PS5 and XSX.
 

purbeast0

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No, I am talking about Forza Motorsport, it is a new engine, next current gen only AFAICT.

The FH3 Hot Wheels DLC was very cool, the new one should be quite fun.
Oh I didn't catch the first 15 mins or so of the presentation, thought you just meant the Hot Wheels stuff.
 

JujuFish

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Thanks for the history lesson, but I know how it all works and has worked.

FOMO has also been real this current gen and has helped with sales of both PS5 and XSX.
And yet you try to use it as an argument that Microsoft wants out. Whatever, dude.
 

purbeast0

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And yet you try to use it as an argument that Microsoft wants out. Whatever, dude.
That's not what I said at all. I said they are losing money on consoles and if they don't have to lose money, why would they do that? They are in the business of making money.

The "fastest selling Xbox generation" claim is bogus anyways. It's lumping the X and S into the same pile. Anyone with half a brain knows the series S is a piece of junk and aside from it being the only available option since the X was hard to find, hardly anybody wanted it. It was just a fallback because it was all that was available.

At the time the 12 million number came out for the X and S sales combined, the PS5 was at 17.5 million. So for comparison's sake, the 12 million number, when considering it's both consoles combined, isn't really that high for the X. Video gaming as a whole is much bigger now than it was back when the 360 came out too and has a much larger audience.

There are a bit more factors that go into that 12 million number than just "12 million xboxes have sold".
 

Skel

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What ridiculous nonsense. You clearly have an axe to grind against Microsoft.

I don't think it's so much an axe to grind as it's buyers remorse for him buying a console that he's just not a fan of. If anything I think he's trying to convince himself that it's ok to let the Xbox go from his list of purchases when new cycles start Could be wrong though
 

purbeast0

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I don't think it's so much an axe to grind as it's buyers remorse for him buying a console that he's just not a fan of. If anything I think he's trying to convince himself that it's ok to let the Xbox go from his list of purchases when new cycles start Could be wrong though
Or it could be neither...
 

purbeast0

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Do you have a better explanation for ignoring something simply because you don't like it? It's quite absurd to discount Series S sales, and it blows your argument out of the water.
I didn't discount it not even sure wtf you are referring to.

I said the 12 million number is made up of 2 consoles.

It's being compared to previous generations sales of 1 console.

It's an apple to oranges comparison.

So good for them?

(doesn't change the fact that the Series S is garbage - there is a reason you can walk into any store get one right now and have been able to for months)

I'd also be surprised if ANY of the consoles, didn't "sell faster" their previous iteration, across all 3 major platforms, with the X1 being an exception, unless the supply issues are causing problems with being able to keep up.
 

JujuFish

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I didn't discount it not even sure wtf you are referring to.

I said the 12 million number is made up of 2 consoles.

It's being compared to previous generations sales of 1 console.

It's an apple to oranges comparison.

So good for them?

(doesn't change the fact that the Series S is garbage - there is a reason you can walk into any store get one right now and have been able to for months)
It's not two consoles. It's two versions of the same console. They're not eating into each other's sales. That's like saying the PS5 and PS5 discless are two consoles.
 

purbeast0

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It's not two consoles. It's two versions of the same console. They're not eating into each other's sales. That's like saying the PS5 and PS5 discless are two consoles.
I mean that's just not true. They have completely different hardware. Might as well throw the Xbox One into your argument then too since it plays the same games and is an "Xbox".

PS5 discless and PS5 disc are identical hardware wise aside from .... the disc drive.
 
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