XBox Ten Spec Sheet

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WORLD EXCLUSIVE : XBox Ten Spec Sheet

SegaLeaks this morning received the following spec sheet from a close Microsoft associate.

CPU : IBM Power 710

- Architecture : IBM POWER7

- Cores : 6 Core

- Clockspeed : 3.72 GHz

GPU : Custom AMD Radeon HD Graphics

- Configuration : Single Die Dual Core

- Clockspeed : 750MHz

- Daughter Die : Renesas Electronics 100MB eDRAM

RAM : 2GB 512-Bit GDDR5 256GB/s (Unified Memory Architecture)

- Zach Morris
 

Pheran

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No idea if there is any truth to this, but if they are sticking with an IBM CPU that bodes well for backward compatibility.
 

American Gunner

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All these rumors, and the only question I have never gets answered. What type of media will the games be on?
 

Rage187

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bah, 2gb. They need to bump it up to 4gb. I've had 2gb in my pc for 6 or 7 years and they are using it unified as system and graphics.

Also, if the hardware is true, the 720 or whatever is much further a long than a 2013 release date. It would mean we hear about this in January and it drops late summer or early fall.
 

Pheran

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All these rumors, and the only question I have never gets answered. What type of media will the games be on?

I really hope that MS is smart enough to license Blu-ray, even though it comes from Sony. Using any other media would be stupid.
 

Looney

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Consoles use memory far more efficient than PCs. The 360 only has 512mb unified. And the eDram is a lot too. Again, stop thinking in PC terms. The 360 only had 10mb eDram.
 

Pheran

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Video memory does seem rather low.

The specs have 100M of very fast embedded DRAM backed up by the main system RAM, seems like it would probably be fine for 1080p (I assume/hope that's the standard resolution for this system).
 

Looney

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I really hope that MS is smart enough to license Blu-ray, even though it comes from Sony. Using any other media would be stupid.

Or they could use HD-DVD or any other high density DVDs out there (or maybe even flash cards). The only reason to use BD would be for movies, but it's obvious Microsoft is going the route of online streaming for that.
 

Pheran

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Or they could use HD-DVD or any other high density DVDs out there (or maybe even flash cards). The only reason to use BD would be for movies, but it's obvious Microsoft is going the route of online streaming for that.

Yes, but that's a huge use case, and the BD drive is one of the few real advantages the PS3 has over the 360. It's in their best interest to negate that advantage in the next generation.
 

American Gunner

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Or they could use HD-DVD or any other high density DVDs out there (or maybe even flash cards). The only reason to use BD would be for movies, but it's obvious Microsoft is going the route of online streaming for that.
I just don't want to be swtiching discs or seeing the Xbox be way behind the PS4 in terms of power. I don't need it to play Blu-Ray movies, but want them to use something with plenty of space on it for the developers to make the games better.
 

Rage187

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The specs have 100M of very fast embedded DRAM backed up by the main system RAM, seems like it would probably be fine for 1080p (I assume/hope that's the standard resolution for this system).

nah, quad HD would hopefully be the upper resolution(s). My next projector is likely to be quadHD and 3D.
 

Pheran

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nah, quad HD would hopefully be the upper resolution(s). My next projector is likely to be quadHD and 3D.

You might as well stop hoping now, because there is no way they are going to target Quad HD. I can see them adding 3D support, though I have no interest in it.
 

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They shouldn't use an optical drive for this coming generation. The specs look weak in my opinion. eDRAM isn't a good idea in my opinion. Also, there will be GDDR5 shortages if they're going to get 256GBps out of a 256 bit wide bus. The GDDR5 modules would have to be able to run at 8GHz. That's going to make system yields pretty low.
 

Beev

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Based on this thread and the rumor that the next Xbox will be even cheaper than the 360 is today it sounds like Microsoft is trying to pull a Nintendo: subpar system that's cheaper and has boat-loads of shovelware. Worked for Nintendo I guess, though I wish it hadn't. If this is MS's plan I hope they crash and burn.
 

Sonikku

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Even without overhead from Windows that PC's deal with, 2 gigs really doesn't seem enough for a next generation console. Considering how cheap the stuff is lately they might better at least stick a 4 gig stick in the thing. I'm kind of leaning towards these "specs" being pulled out of someones ass.
 

Pheran

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Also, there will be GDDR5 shortages if they're going to get 256GBps out of a 256 bit wide bus. The GDDR5 modules would have to be able to run at 8GHz. That's going to make system yields pretty low.

Try reading the OP again.
 

darkewaffle

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Even without overhead from Windows that PC's deal with, 2 gigs really doesn't seem enough for a next generation console. Considering how cheap the stuff is lately they might better at least stick a 4 gig stick in the thing. I'm kind of leaning towards these "specs" being pulled out of someones ass.

Just because DDR3 is cheap doesn't mean GDDR5 is. Not to mention eDRAM is a different beast entirely given it's embedded nature, not really something you can just buy a stick of and toss in.

And it's easy to say "Oh it would only cost Microsoft $x more to toss in each unit" but even if the next console is only as successful as the original Xbox (unlikely, as it has sold less than half what the 360 has lifetime) then that's still x * 24000000+. A few dollars in production on something that sells millions upon millions of units is no small sum of money.

I echo the sentiment that people are trying to think of these specs in a PC; but they're not apples to apples. Consoles are significantly more efficient when it comes to squeezing performance out of their hardware.

Also lol at "quad HD" standard
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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None of this is official, and there has been many different rumors. There is even an ARM rumor floating around.

No matter what it needs a high capacty disk format, wi-fi, and a HDD standard. It also needs to render games in 1080p, not upscaled.
 

mnewsham

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If it releases by 2013 then I cant see QuadHD being available, if they are leaving it to 2015 then i would hope they would leave it as an option or at least a possibility.
 

American Gunner

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I just know that if they go the way of the Wii, I will not buy it. I want a clearly upgraded console.
 
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