Xeon L5639 Overclocking on X58

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stinger608

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How do you feel about me getting this

www.ebay.com/itm/MB-G4109-002-GATEW...-TBGM01-1-Motherboard-Tested-Ok-/151106749584

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-XEON-...ACHE-QPI-5-86GT-s-LGA1366-SLBZJ-/380668007314

Its just about $150 all together. I will just has to get another casr since I'm currently using m-itx right now.

Are these cpus overclockable on all x58 motherboards or just certain ones and can x58 MBs use regular ram or do they only use ecc?

Yes on the chip on ebay. Same seller who i bought mine from.

No on the mobo. Go to first post on this thread to see what boards are working so far. Not all X58 boards are compatible. That gateway board most likely will not work.

The Sabertooth boards look like the boards that can get the highest OC. But those come at a premium.


Exactly what Rage states! Do not buy the board.

I actually had that exact board and it would post but show some odd CPU number and would only show 4gb of 6gb ram. Wouldn't allow me to enable Hyperthreading as well.
 

tim333

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Hey rage. I'm having a ton of luck and fun from my Sabertooth X58. Pushed it the bclk to "229" tonight. Post and everything. No blue screen. Ran a few benchmarks as well.




Yeah I was looking at Sabertooth X58 boards going for $800 dollars a few months ago and last year across the web. MSI X58 board carried a nice price as well years after release. X58 boards are still good and can deliver a solid gaming build or workstation. Tylersburg released in 2008 - 5 years later it's still a great platform.

-16000 MB/sbi-directional 32 PCI-E lanes [x16,x16 or 4x8 etc]
-2-Way\3-Way SLI - Quad SLI and CrossfireX GPU Ready
-8.5Gb/s DDR3 Triple Channel
-Supports SATA II and SATA III
-Built in RAID controller [0-1-5-10 ready ]
-USB 3.0 supported
-Gigabit LAN [if anyone cares]
-and more depending on the motherboard features.

So yeah it's pretty much a server powerhouse with the correct setup. It was also future proofed as well. Intel gave a lot of tech bang for the buck. X79 felt more like a side grade for me which is why I never got around to upgrading. X79 is nice and all, but I'm in no rush to upgrade now. PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 still shows minor differences while gaming last time I checked. PCI-E 2.0 is still alive and kicking with no problems. I'm glad I've came across these Xeons chips at affordable prices. Now I can probably get another 2 years out of my build.

I'm still thinking about the EVGA SR-2, but I don't think I want to put that much money in EoL technology.

how you can push bclk to "229" .... i have a sabertooth X58 too but 222 max bclk i can boot my system
 

tim333

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??? Dude I've had my PC running 4Ghz easily. I'm hoping you are being sarcastic right now. [?]. All I had to do was bump my BLCK and my PCI-E up 1 number. Also In my BIOS it says 3996Mhz [222] , but in Windows it says 3.974Ghz [jumps to 3.993Ghz] which I rounded to 4Ghz. Is that a problem or something? Also this is nothing new. I stated it here in my very first post on this forum:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2335636&page=29

Guess you forgot. Chill out.

Check out the specs.

Also the 4.4Ghz was here:




If you REALLY need proof of me running 4Ghz I can provide that easily. 4Ghz [x18]. I had pictures, but I had a hard drive crash. I've been running benchmarks all night @ 3.974Ghz and it will jump to 3.993Ghz. You want me to say "3.974Ghz" instead of 4Ghz or something?

i had a sabertooth x58 too .... how you can run it at 4400 ! i am runing it at 215x18
 

Brekyrself

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For those with Foxconn boards, updated Bloodrage info.

Before I would lose a channel of ram at anything over 202 bclk no matter what vtt. I put in some Crucial Ballistic 3x4gb 1600mhz ram and took out the original Corsair Dominator 3x2gb 1600mhz from ~2008.

220bclk now with full memory and this crucial does 8-8-8-24-1T at these speeds! Also still have turbo enabled for 2 core 4.4ghz action.

CPU Features
PPM ...............................: Enabled
EIST ..............................: Enabled
CxE................................: Auto

Memory Timings
Extreme Memory Profile XMP ........: Disabled
Memory Profile Select .............:
DRAM Timing Control ...............: Manual
tCL (CAS Latency) .................: 8T
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) ...........: 8T
tRP (RAS Precharge) ...............: 8T
tRAS (Precharge Delay) ............: 24T
CR (Command Rate) .................: 1T


All Voltage Settings

CPU Voltages
CPU Core Voltage ..................: +190mV 1.2v under full 12 thread load
CPU Vdroop Compensation ...........: disabled
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage ..........: +220mV ~1.31v
1.8 PPL Voltage Setting ...........: 1.800V
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl ..........: 0.800V

Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage ......................: 1.55V

Chipset Voltages
X58 IOH Core Voltage .............: 1.2V


CPU Turbo .........................: Always On (still drops to 16x multi when on all 6 cores)
System Turbo ......................: Enabled

Clock Speed Control Center
CPU Bclock (FSB) ................: 220MHz
QPI Link Fast Mode ..............: Enabled
QPI Multiplier ..................: x18
QPI Target Speed ................: 3960MHz
CPU Core Multiplier .............: x16
CPU Core Target Speed ...........: 3520MHz
CPU Uncore Multiplier ...........: x16
CPU Uncore Target Speed .........: 3520MHz
Memory Bus Multiplier ...........: x8
Memory Bus Target Speed .........: 1760MHZ
PCI Express Bus Clock............: 102MHz


Question for others who benchmark, any speed increase from running the uncore at > 1.5x?
 

Thewiruz

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i am going to test my new purchase Asus p6t7 supercomputer. I was lucky to find a motherboard that was never used before and to a price i couldnt resist! $60

Anyone who tested this motherboard?
 

Burpo

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That's a Work Station board, don't epect it to over clock like other enthusiast boards.
 

Thewiruz

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That's a Work Station board, don't epect it to over clock like other enthusiast boards.

Yes i know! Hopefully it will deliver enogh though. Otherwise i sell it to someone who need 7 PCI-e slots . I am pretty sure i will get my money back anyway!
 

werds

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Thread has become pretty hefty, my google fu has failed me, and this seems to house some of the more organized info across the various forums I lurk...

Can anyone provide their experience or confirm/deny if the following motherboards work or have issues with the L5639 and or what their results are/have been?

MSI Big Bang XPower x58 and the EVGA 4 way Classified X58

I currently on hand have an Asus P6X58-e WS and an L5639 but also have the Xpower enroute (purchased cheap). Figured if I could confirm that the L5639 functions on these boards I might just go back to all 1366 sockets in house...
 

tim333

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haha i did it ......... running with 217x18 turbo 217x20 ! 3.9 on 6core and max turbo 4.34 Ghz
 

gbeirn

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Thread has become pretty hefty, my google fu has failed me, and this seems to house some of the more organized info across the various forums I lurk...

Can anyone provide their experience or confirm/deny if the following motherboards work or have issues with the L5639 and or what their results are/have been?

MSI Big Bang XPower x58 and the EVGA 4 way Classified X58

I currently on hand have an Asus P6X58-e WS and an L5639 but also have the Xpower enroute (purchased cheap). Figured if I could confirm that the L5639 functions on these boards I might just go back to all 1366 sockets in house...


My co-worker has one in a Big Bang Power and it works fine.
 

TerryMathews

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As a followup, I traded straight across with a seller here for a 4770K combo. Thought some of you might be interested in the differences:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1222319
Please note, due to the new beta of Radeon drivers, it's not detecting Crossfire. Crossfire was enabled and did load across both GPUs.

This is 4.6GHz on the 4770K. When you look at what we were paying for these combos (due to the availability of cheap X58 boards) when the L5639s first showed up on eBay under $100, it really gets the point across of just how good those chips are for the money. If I didn't need SSD Trim support and UEFI it probably wouldn't have been worth the switch.

Please note the result I quoted was my single-chip L5639 rig, dual chips on the SR-2 made effectively no difference in 3dmark; my gains from the second core were washed out by the lower BCLK and consequently lower overall clock speed.

ETA: I'm not going to dig through and search for my old post on Cinebench 11.5, but I backed up that install so I've still got the scores populated.

SR-2 2xL5639 @ 2.96GHz - 16.45 (multi) / 1.22 (single)
Z87 i4770k @ 4.60GHz - 9.46 (multi) / 2.03 (single)

I didn't back up the Cinebench scores from the X58 setup, but it was a high 9 or a low 10 on multi. Single would be near the SR-2 score, maybe a little higher due to BCLK difference.
 
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stinger608

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I came across an EVGA E758 X58 3X SLi motherboard and wondering if anyone can confirm

the L5639 chip runs in this board. I have read some things that say EVGA's boards needed a

"Westmere Mod" but none of them even list the E758 board.
 

stinger608

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Thanks Terry! It has the blue PCIe slots, so I think it is probably a revision 1.1.:$ I think the 1.2 revision had grey PCIe slots. Will have to check though.

No body has seemed to answer if the pins on the back of the motherboard is the same as the Classified. I have found that question on 3 different forums and none of them was ever answered.
 
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rage19420

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Wait are you saying that the OC'd 4770k is on par with the L5639?

If so that is amazing!

As a followup, I traded straight across with a seller here for a 4770K combo. Thought some of you might be interested in the differences:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1222319
Please note, due to the new beta of Radeon drivers, it's not detecting Crossfire. Crossfire was enabled and did load across both GPUs.

This is 4.6GHz on the 4770K. When you look at what we were paying for these combos (due to the availability of cheap X58 boards) when the L5639s first showed up on eBay under $100, it really gets the point across of just how good those chips are for the money. If I didn't need SSD Trim support and UEFI it probably wouldn't have been worth the switch.

Please note the result I quoted was my single-chip L5639 rig, dual chips on the SR-2 made effectively no difference in 3dmark; my gains from the second core were washed out by the lower BCLK and consequently lower overall clock speed.

ETA: I'm not going to dig through and search for my old post on Cinebench 11.5, but I backed up that install so I've still got the scores populated.

SR-2 2xL5639 @ 2.96GHz - 16.45 (multi) / 1.22 (single)
Z87 i4770k @ 4.60GHz - 9.46 (multi) / 2.03 (single)

I didn't back up the Cinebench scores from the X58 setup, but it was a high 9 or a low 10 on multi. Single would be near the SR-2 score, maybe a little higher due to BCLK difference.
 

TerryMathews

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Wait are you saying that the OC'd 4770k is on par with the L5639?

If so that is amazing!

It's on par with applications that are highly effective with multithreading like Handbrake. The 4770K walks away on things that are less effective at multithreading, especially gaming. I picked up almost 20FPS in a number of games because they use 1-2 threads.

The real read-between-the-lines point here is that if you did or can put together an L5639 combo for ~$200 and hit 200BCLK, there is nothing else from Intel that touches that performance new. It's potent multi-threaded and respectable single-threaded thanks to the 20x turbo multiplier for 1-2 threads.
 

rage19420

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Oh ok, i see. Im really impressed with the results I have gotten so far. Im thinking im maxed out with the MSI PRO E mobo. Max is about 3.2ghz, higher boost but mostly a steady 3.2ghz

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35744017&postcount=876

If i can get a Sabertooth board on the cheap i may jump on that. Those seem to be getting the higher clocks. Overall pretty happy with the results and a decent bump if FPS in BF4.

It's on par with applications that are highly effective with multithreading like Handbrake. The 4770K walks away on things that are less effective at multithreading, especially gaming. I picked up almost 20FPS in a number of games because they use 1-2 threads.

The real read-between-the-lines point here is that if you did or can put together an L5639 combo for ~$200 and hit 200BCLK, there is nothing else from Intel that touches that performance new. It's potent multi-threaded and respectable single-threaded thanks to the 20x turbo multiplier for 1-2 threads.
 

ragnarok77

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I was actually able to OC L5639 on Bloodrage mobo to 180BLK with very small voltage increase. It's been running stably at 180 x 18 = 3.24Ghz for months.

I can push it to 200BLCK with higher voltage. However I felt like 180BLCK is good enough.

Also Bloodrage's BIOS has some issue. 50% of the time when the machine cold boots, the machine simply doesn't post. I need to gets into BIOS and load the last OC setting and then it boots fine. After getting into Windows, there is no problem whatsoever with this awesome CPU.
 

Brekyrself

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I was actually able to OC L5639 on Bloodrage mobo to 180BLK with very small voltage increase. It's been running stably at 180 x 18 = 3.24Ghz for months.

I can push it to 200BLCK with higher voltage. However I felt like 180BLCK is good enough.

Also Bloodrage's BIOS has some issue. 50% of the time when the machine cold boots, the machine simply doesn't post. I need to gets into BIOS and load the last OC setting and then it boots fine. After getting into Windows, there is no problem whatsoever with this awesome CPU.

What vcore and vtt is the board set to? Try vtt at +200mv-220mv and vcore at > +100mv and it should boot every time.

See my post for running the Bloodrage at 200-220 bclk
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35766635&postcount=903
 

Sp12

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What are your guys thoughts. 1.2V Vcore, 1.34 QPI, 1.86PLL volts. Safe voltages? I haven't been in the X58 OC seen for a while.
 

oscar92070

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I overclocked my L5639 to 4.29Ghz with a BCLK of 238Mhz and a locked multiplier of X18 on Asus Rampage III Extreme. The Vcore and VTT was set to 1.4V and the PCIE frequency increased to 108Mhz with the IOH Voltage raised to 1.43V and PCIE voltage raised to 1.55V. CPU-Z Validation Link: http://valid.canardpc.com/fftwtb
Cinebench 11.5 Score for Multi Core was 11.02 and Single core was 1.56.
Cinebench 15 score for Multi Core was 977
 
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