Xeon L5639 Overclocking on X58

[Burpo]

Well CH, get yours put together yet? Inquiring minds want to know

 

[ClockHound]

Well CH, get yours put together yet? Inquiring minds want to know

I wish. CPU just arrived yesterday, probably all the way from Costa Rica. The Sabertooth is lolling around on the prairies before heading further west. The RAM was back-ordered. For a month. So, had to make my own tri-channel kit by getting two two-channel kits. Will be playing musical sticks with them when they arrive, hopefully by Wednesday.

Can take a pic of the 5660 later and pretend to overclock it using some cheap gif animations. ;-)

Went with a 550W Seasonic PS, which should be enough to power a mildly overclocked (4.4Ghz) Xeon and a 7770, right?

 

[Burpo]

Yes, I'm using a 550 watt also.. works fine since I probably will never run SLI.. :\

 

[looproll]

I just set up a P6T Deluxe with an X5660, both bought off ebay. The thing won't post.
Is there anything special you're supposed to do like a BIOS flash to get it to work?

I've tried resetting the CMOS.

Hello my rig includes asus p6td deluxe with xeon l5639@3.9Ghz and is working stable 24/7 so i believe there is no compatibillity issue for r rig but maybe r bios version or maybe the mobo is defective if all the connections are ok

 

[looproll]

Hello my rig is this asus P6td deluxe with intel xeon l5639@3.9Ghz

 

[looproll]

I m very satisfied with my system and recently i replace my old i7 extreme 965 with this litle monster my oc'ed system is this http://valid.canardpc.com/hxmby7
with a little change i raised my memory frequency to 1745mhz
So my system is rock stable (both testing more than 4 hours to aida 64 and prime) with bclk at 217, the strange situation that im messing with is if i raise bclk to 218 ro even 220 my system works fine stable (both gaming and benching) but the sound from my x-fi platinum becoming strange (hicks, clicks) stopping and starting, does anyone has any idea.
Forget to tell all setting to my bios are defalult except pll voltage (1.9) and qpi dram voltage (1.28), No matter i raised v core voltage or ioh voltage or pcie frequency nothing changed

 

[Burpo]

Others have also experienced the noises you hear, usually above 215bclk. I know you're happy with the L5639 (so was I), but selling it and getting the X5650 made me a LOT happier. You can lower buss speed and use 22X multiplier for much better performance, especially single thread. Cost me $15 to change chips and was well worth it. 12 threads rendering @4400 is FAST!

 

[Makaveli]

Hello my rig is this asus P6td deluxe with intel xeon l5639@3.9Ghz

Looks good what kinda of temps are you getting water cooled at that overclock?

 

[looproll]

Looks good what kinda of temps are you getting water cooled at that overclock?

Full load 100% all cores at AIDA64 stress test 63oC after 40 mins

 

[looproll]

Others have also experienced the noises you hear, usually above 215bclk. I know you're happy with the L5639 (so was I), but selling it and getting the X5650 made me a LOT happier. You can lower buss speed and use 22X multiplier for much better performance, especially single thread. Cost me $15 to change chips and was well worth it. 12 threads rendering @4400 is FAST!

I m thinking this of buying x5650, but i'm also thinking sr-2 it's difficult to decide :hmm:

 

[TerryMathews]

I m thinking this of buying x5650, but i'm also thinking sr-2 it's difficult to decide :hmm:

Keep in mind that the SR-2 generally doesn't hit anywhere near the BCLK of an X58 board. Realistically you're looking to hit somewhere in the 185-190 range.

The BIOS is also quite possibly the worst BIOS in history...

 

[looproll]

Keep in mind that the SR-2 generally doesn't hit anywhere near the BCLK of an X58 board. Realistically you're looking to hit somewhere in the 185-190 range.

The BIOS is also quite possibly the worst BIOS in history...

i agree with you but i also thinking 2nd waterblock from ek 2nd radiator on the roof of stacker and a bigger pump and........messing with a difficult bios....overclockers heaven

Now i'm writing from my office pc and is a "new" "4th generation" lga 1150 haswell pentium besides overclocking is a no go for the mainstream users but only if you have a k chip, uefi bios suck very easy even my granma overclocks

 

[YBS1]

Finally decided to grab one of these today. Purchased an X5670, I guess we'll see how well this chip plays with a Bloodrage now. I'll be more than happy if it can attain the clocks I can get out of my W3520 with the additional two cores.

 

[lopri]

Insane values out of these chips! I should have kept my X58 board, lol.

 

[Makaveli]

Insane values out of these chips! I should have kept my X58 board, lol.

Yes you should have

My build is going on 5 years old with some upgrades here and there and still going strong.

 

[TerryMathews]

i agree with you but i also thinking 2nd waterblock from ek 2nd radiator on the roof of stacker and a bigger pump and........messing with a difficult bios....overclockers heaven

I like overclocking as much as the next guy, probably more so (If I wrote down a list, I'd probably have 75% of the enthusiast "go-to" setups from 2001-on) but there's a difference between a challenge and a poorly-designed pain in the ass.

The SR-2 BIOS is squarely in the latter. There are a number of incompatabilities with certain bridged PCIe cards like the ASUS Xonar and the onboard NF200 plex which could be patched out in BIOS, and EVGA did for other X58 boards but failed to do so for the SR-2. Which IMO is both laughable and unacceptable for a board with a +$500 MSRP.

The memory multiplier settings are on par with the industry standard from the P4 era. It's nuts to be figuring out multipliers on one of these setups when every other OEM has gone to having the BIOS calculate the actual memory frequency based on ratio and current FSB. What's worse is that it doesn't even present ratios, it presents the memory frequency if the board were at stock FSB even if it isn't. Which is something I'd expect from an OEM board in an HP desktop. Not a +$500 enthusiast board.

/rant.

If you can line up a good deal on one, there is nothing else like it on the market. Pair it up with L5639s or X5650s and you will have untouchable price/performance assuming that you can utilize all those cores. It is truly a unique tool.

It's just unfortunate the tool is wrapped with rose stems instead of grip tape.

 

[Markfw]

I like overclocking as much as the next guy, probably more so (If I wrote down a list, I'd probably have 75% of the enthusiast "go-to" setups from 2001-on) but there's a difference between a challenge and a poorly-designed pain in the ass.

The SR-2 BIOS is squarely in the latter. There are a number of incompatabilities with certain bridged PCIe cards like the ASUS Xonar and the onboard NF200 plex which could be patched out in BIOS, and EVGA did for other X58 boards but failed to do so for the SR-2. Which IMO is both laughable and unacceptable for a board with a +$500 MSRP.

The memory multiplier settings are on par with the industry standard from the P4 era. It's nuts to be figuring out multipliers on one of these setups when every other OEM has gone to having the BIOS calculate the actual memory frequency based on ratio and current FSB. What's worse is that it doesn't even present ratios, it presents the memory frequency if the board were at stock FSB even if it isn't. Which is something I'd expect from an OEM board in an HP desktop. Not a +$500 enthusiast board.

/rant.

If you can line up a good deal on one, there is nothing else like it on the market. Pair it up with L5639s or X5650s and you will have untouchable price/performance assuming that you can utilize all those cores. It is truly a unique tool.

It's just unfortunate the tool is wrapped with rose stems instead of grip tape.

Well, its all I can do to get my 5639's to 2.8 on my SR-2, and I am in it a little over $600 for mobo and 2 chips. I just got 2 5660's for $380, and that motherboard was about 200, so for less than 600 I have a server board with 2@2.8. And now I see 5670's at almost the same price !! So I would do 2 of them and a server board for more performance and less money than my SR-2.

Hindsight is great, but the higher clocked chips is the series sure are appealing. And I already know if I wanted to put them on my UD3R the 5639's would do 3.6 easy.

 

[MongGrel]

Been lazy and still haven't stuck the L5639 in the computer in the bedroom after I put the X5650 in here.

One of my Memorial Day things to do list finally, I think.

The nice part is these higher end ones keep dropping in price still atm.

Sorry for busting on ya a bit there Terry in one thread I think the other day, bit of difference of opinion maybe and happens.

Probably my bad and beer involved, but immaterial in this one anyways.

 

[TerryMathews]

Been lazy and still haven't stuck the L5639 in the computer in the bedroom after I put the X5650 in here.

One of my Memorial Day things to do list finally, I think.

The nice part is these higher end ones keep dropping in price still atm.

Sorry for busting on ya a bit there Terry in one thread I think the other day, bit of difference of opinion maybe and happens.

Probably my bad and beer involved, but immaterial in this one anyways.

:beer:

The difference between the kids and the adults is the adults can leave what is said in P&N there.

 

[ruhtraeel]

Hello,
Just out of curiousity, would an i5 2500k @ 4.0ghz be better or a Xeon X5650 @ 3.6ghz for rendering/productivity? How about gaming?

My dad does some heavy video editing/rendering, and he's been complaining that his dual Opteron 2354's haven't been cutting it due to the low clock speed. I've been reading this thread as a result.

If I were to get one, I wouldn't know if I would keep my i5 2500k, or if I would use the X5650.

 

[Makaveli]

Hello,
Just out of curiousity, would an i5 2500k @ 4.0ghz be better or a Xeon X5650 @ 3.6ghz for rendering/productivity? How about gaming?

My dad does some heavy video editing/rendering, and he's been complaining that his dual Opteron 2354's haven't been cutting it due to the low clock speed. I've been reading this thread as a result.

If I were to get one, I wouldn't know if I would keep my i5 2500k, or if I would use the X5650.

I think the answer is no to SB.

Heavy video editing and rending likes many cores, even with the IPC improvements from SB to Westmere it won't make up for the 2 missing cores and the 400mhz clock speed advantage also won't make much of a difference.

Ask your dad what kinda of apps and maybe some of us can run some benchmarks so he you can see some numbers.

 

[ruhtraeel]

I think the answer is no to SB.

Heavy video editing and rending likes many cores, even with the IPC improvements from SB to Westmere it won't make up for the 2 missing cores and the 400mhz clock speed advantage also won't make much of a difference.

Ask your dad what kinda of apps and maybe some of us can run some benchmarks so he you can see some numbers.

Does the X5650 overclocked run similarly to an i7 970 or something? It seems like it's still not as good as an i5 2500k for gaming, which is fine since I will be using the more gaming oriented processor. It's only if the X5650 ran better in games as well where I would be tempted to keep it for myself.

The strange thing is that his computer right now has 8 physical cores from the two 2354's in there right now, but he said that applications are still somewat slower.

I'll ask him what apps he uses when I get off work.

 

[Makaveli]

Does the X5650 overclocked run similarly to an i7 970 or something? It seems like it's still not as good as an i5 2500k for gaming, which is fine since I will be using the more gaming oriented processor. It's only if the X5650 ran better in games as well where I would be tempted to keep it for myself.

The strange thing is that his computer right now has 8 physical cores from the two 2354's in there right now, but he said that applications are still somewat slower.

I'll ask him what apps he uses when I get off work.

You should get similar overclocks between the xeon's and the Gulftown chips. As for Gaming single threads performance is higher in SB but with both chips overclocked to similar speeds you won't see much of a difference if any.

If you were talking about Haswell which is a very large IPC increase from the Xeon line in certain games you will see some differences.

However once you crank up the settings to realistic levels and as long as the cpu is powerful enough to feed the gpu the bottleneck as well all know switches.

 

[Burpo]

How's your I5 2500k do in Passmark, single thread? Mine runs close to an I7-3770 in single thread & smokes it everywhere else..


The Dual Opteron setup isn't impressive with a Passmark of 4243.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Opteron+2354&id=2031&cpuCount=2

A single OC Xeon 5650 turns 12,000+ (3X faster render)

 

[ruhtraeel]

How's your I5 2500k do in Passmark, single thread? Mine runs close to an I7-3770 in single thread & smokes it everywhere else..


The Dual Opteron setup isn't impressive with a Passmark of 4243.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Opteron+2354&id=2031&cpuCount=2

A single OC Xeon 5650 turns 12,000+ (3X faster render)

I'm not sure, as I haven't benchmarked my 2500k yet, nor have I overclocked it to 4.5+. I'm not a huge fan of synthetic benchmarks, though.

I was mainly basing it off of this:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/288?vs=142

I'll probably stick to the 2500k after overclocking it a bit more, and if I can possibly get a used X58 motherboard from my friend, I'll give my dad the X5650. It seems like it's more production oriented, and he would probably get more use out of it than I would.

I do, however, remember that dual Opteron 2222's performed better than dual Opteron 2354's in gaming. I remember my Skyrim FPS probably had a 10-15 FPS difference between the two.