Xeon L5639 Overclocking on X58

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ocre

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i remember my socket 939. I had a few CPUs for it. The last being the opteron 180.

I had some nice dual channel DDR and a PCIe in that thing. I was able to overclock the 180 and completely skipped the AM2 socket. Eventually i had jumped on the core 2 bandwagon, but i held out for years. I still ran the opteron180 as my spare until the phenom2 launched.

I bought a triple PCIe AM3 Asrock board. At this time i had a PC shop/repair partnership. I had so many phenom2s in that board, from unlocked 720s to the phenom 2 965 and finally the 1090t. It was a great time because we sold systems left and right, i would just drop in a new CPU and sell the old one in another build. I also had many GPUs. Had every slot filled with 3x SLI. We had many 8800gt's laying around, but i think for some reason 3 sli didnt work for them but eventually i had 3 9800gt's. I was just messing around and didnt really find multiGPU a great experience. By the time i tried 9800gt sli, those were old news. I think the 280gtx was already out. but never since have i ran multiGPU.

Those were the days. It was a time that i had new toys all the time. So for me, the socket 939 was a slow period for me. The i went into my PC peak where i had went crazy and had so much HW. Swapping in and out, selling off stuff as fast as i could get it. The same time i had the AM3, i also had my socket 775. I actually went backwards with that system, started off with 45nm chips and ended up with a q6600 gem that i continue running for several years even after i moved on from the PC shop.

I still love the PC, its just i barely have time for them anymore. I had to start growing up. Wife, kids, and a career. I dont think i grew out of PCs, i just grew out of time for PCs. I still have a great love for all things PC.

Throughout the years, the x58 is an anomaly for sure. I am glad to be a part of this platform......but you know what? I kind of want to see skylake make a huge jump. We need to see performance jump up at least one more good time. Maybe skylake can do it.
 

Chocu1a

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I disagree and agree

I still have an opteron 170 being used as an HTPC and browsing the internet its fine for anything else just too slow.

So for a desktop machine I had to retire her within the 3-4 year mark.

built around 2005-2009

My 1366 build that I started in oct 2009 is still going strong today and I can probably see this system still having life with just gpu upgrades for another year or two or longer.

So you will be looking at 7-8+ years on some of these builds

I do also think the slowing down of the industry and having computers that are just fast enough + physical limits of node shrinks etc played the biggest factor in this.

Its crazy. I was upgrading and moving platforms like crazy before my x58 build.
In 2002, started with a P4 2.6, to a P4 3.2.
Switched to an AMD 64 3700+, to a X2 4400+, to a FX55 with the infamous ASRock Dual Sata2(supports 939 & AM2, ddr & ddr2, agp & pci x16)
Switched to C2D 8400, then to a Q9550.
In 2009, switched to x58 i7 930 which I used up until 2 weeks ago, when I swapped to a x5670.
That was a new CPU per year for 6 years until x58. And the i7 930 lasted 6 years on its own.
I can see the x5670 lasting at least another 2 years, with a couple of gpu upgrades. I can't count the number of gpu upgrades...lol.
 
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I think with DX 12 there will be no reason to upgrade the Gaming machine. I don't have any reason for USB 3 or any other feature that I can't just use an add-on card with. If anything the only upgrades the rig will see is new GPUs and possibly a PCIe SSD card. Or a faster monitor
 

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I wasn't even a pc gamer till 2007 after I saw a church friends computer playing call of duty 4 and I was like I have to get in on this, so since then I've only had 2 computer builds.

My first build was a x2 5200+ with 2gb of ram and an 8800gt, then when I got into college 2 years later I used one of my college refund checks to get an i7 920 with 6gb of ram and a new case/psu and upgraded the rest of it over time from there.

Now back in January of this year I was on the hardwareswap reddit and they were mentioning x58 boards and why they were so powerful, and from there I learned of the power of the x5650, which I had by the end of the month. Now I'm running that chip at 4.2ghz. So I can only say that over the last 6 years this platform has done amazing things for me and I'm glad that I can still be confident in the power of my pc with these amazing chips, which I hope to keep going for as long as possible.

Finding this forum has been a great treat and I'm glad to be here
 
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Burpo

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Well, I've had a lot of fun & X58 did a lot of work for me, but I'm in the process of upgrade/side-grade to X79 and an 8 core Xeon E5-2665. Thanks to AdamK47 for a deal on his old Asus P9-X79, I hope to have the Extra Spicy 8 core up & running sometime next week (fingers crossed). The Passmark & Cinebench scores on that CPU lead me to believe I can shave some time off rendering and cut my power bill in half. Native Sata3 and 8 slots of quad channel ram, plus the deals I got made this too good to pass up. For $235 total, the extra bandwidth & throughput should cut my Blu-ray renders to under an hr. and a 115 watt CPU that sips power under load compared to X58 is leading me astray. My overclocking days may be done.. :\ I only care about results.. The X58 SaberTooth & X5650 will recoup my investment, and I'll have a video editing machine that runs cool & quiet compared to now. It all depends on whether the P9-X79 will work with the ES, but I think it will..
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2665+@+2.40GHz
 
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Well, I've had a lot of fun & X58 did a lot of work for me, but I'm in the process of upgrade/side-grade to X79 and an 8 core Xeon E5-2665. Thanks to AdamK47 for a deal on his old Asus P9-X79, I hope to have the Extra Spicy 8 core up & running sometime next week (fingers crossed). The Passmark & Cinebench scores on that CPU lead me to believe I can shave some time off rendering and cut my power bill in half. Native Sata3 and 8 slots of quad channel ram, plus the deals I got made this too good to pass up. For $235 total, the extra bandwidth & throughput should cut my Blu-ray renders to under an hr. and a 115 watt CPU that sips power under load compared to X58 is leading me astray. My overclocking days may be done.. :\ I only care about results.. The X58 SaberTooth & X5650 will recoup my investment, and I'll have a video editing machine that runs cool & quiet compared to now. It all depends on whether the P9-X79 will work with the ES, but I think it will..
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2665+%40+2.40GHz

the ipc has improved over the westmere
i am sure you already seen this:
http://www.overclock-and-game.com/hardware/computer-tech-reviews/28-x5660-review

One thing i found very interesting, something most people could never imagine: power consumption

The 32nm used in westmere/gulftown was amassing. These older chips are really impressive when you look at 22nm E series chips.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7255/intel-core-i7-4960x-ivy-bridge-e-review/6


The 990x doesnt suck down the power you would think. It is the same case with haswell 6-8 cores. IPC has improved a little bit with each generation, but in my opinion intel's 32nm node was their last great node shift to date. From 65 to 45nm there was progress but i think from 45 to 32nm was a much more impressive move. Intels 32nm node was amassing.

their 22nm only improves things on the lower frequencies. Not only did intel fail to move the bar on overclocking frequencies, we also dont see much progress in power consumption when chips are clocked high. This is very unfortunate. I am starting to be scared that 14nm will be an even worse case for high clocked chips. It is really sad.

People blame the lack of Intel cpu progress on AMD all the time but I see clearly that Intel has ran into something major. It also looks like GPU tech is finding this same issue as they abandoned 20nm. In high performance/ high frequencies, the only thing moving up is the price.

My fear is that intel has ran into the same issue with 14nm. I fear that GPUs will find 16nm issues as well. The route we have taken may not have been the correct one. But if that is the case, it will take years to get past this. It is looking almost catastrophic to me. A massive set back............

Maybe i am wrong and things will get back on track. idk
 
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Well, I've had a lot of fun & X58 did a lot of work for me, but I'm in the process of upgrade/side-grade to X79 and an 8 core Xeon E5-2665. Thanks to AdamK47 for a deal on his old Asus P9-X79, I hope to have the Extra Spicy 8 core up & running sometime next week (fingers crossed). The Passmark & Cinebench scores on that CPU lead me to believe I can shave some time off rendering and cut my power bill in half. Native Sata3 and 8 slots of quad channel ram, plus the deals I got made this too good to pass up. For $235 total, the extra bandwidth & throughput should cut my Blu-ray renders to under an hr. and a 115 watt CPU that sips power under load compared to X58 is leading me astray. My overclocking days may be done.. :\ I only care about results.. The X58 SaberTooth & X5650 will recoup my investment, and I'll have a video editing machine that runs cool & quiet compared to now. It all depends on whether the P9-X79 will work with the ES, but I think it will..
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2665+@+2.40GHz

What about those 5 X58 boards you bought though?
 

Burpo

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Those are long gone.. The last one brought good $$, and I decided to try X79 for my next video machine..
Interesting/rare i7-2490X ES & screenshots here.. Check out the multiplier..
Biostar X79

Asus SaberTooth X79
 
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lol you bought all those X58 refurbs and then decided to upgrade.. it usually takes an over-abundance of the same thing before realizing an upgrade is the thing you really need
 

Burpo

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They aren't refurbs. They're workstation pulls, and I'm still getting 6 more if he ever gets back from vacation in Mexico..
 
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Makaveli

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They aren't refurbs. They're workstation pulls, and I'm still getting 6 more if he ever gets back from vacation in Mexico..

When you get it setup can you pull some Idle and full load readings and compare to one of your x58 setups.
 

ClockHound

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My overclocking days may be done.. :\ ...

You'll be back. The need for speed never eases for long. And stock workstation clocks tick too slow.

Enjoy the sidegrade. While it lasts. ;-)

(PS - Does this mean the X58 market has peaked? Is it time as well, for your devotees to sell?) :biggrin:

Edit: Looks like you gave in already....you're overclocking it according to the screengrabs, right?
 
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Burpo

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Those aren't my screenshots, just some I found while looking for ES processors. I couldn't find a suitable processor, and don't want to spend the money on an i7-3930K or 3960X. Now that I've seen some concrete numbers from Broadwell D, I am willing to wait a bit. I really like the small form factor.. Reclaiming some desktop space will be a nice bonus
 
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ClockHound

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So...keep X58 a little longer or sell, sell, sell!!! ;-)

I'm looking to build a sff sometime soon(ish) too. Likely will wait for Skylake tho. And wait. And wait. Then get a DC late next year. ;-)
 

Burpo

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Interesting experience: I decided not to build the X79, but list it on ebay & get my money back. The Asus X79 Deluxe barely broke $100 and 100 views in a week long auction. The Gigabyte X58 board was over 100 views and $125+ in 1 day, and eventually had over 400 views & sold for more than twice that ($255 + ship). The answer is YES, X58 is still in demand!
 

B-Riz

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I am lame, could not pull the trigger on an 6 core 32 nm chip.

Got a 32nm i7 920 replacement, E5640, $25.00, going in an ASUS P6X58D-E w/ a Mugen 2.

(Wife's computer, so no need for crazy OC stuff but I will try it )
 

Burpo

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Lol, I got an X5550 (95 watt i7-920) for $12 delivered
I'm using it to test boards.. I have 6 more GA-X58A-UD7 Rev.2's on the way
 
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PhIlLy ChEeSe

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Chiming back in guys,
I have a Rampage III Formula I got with bent pins, the pins are fixed but I have a Xeon W3520 CPU and on the Official Asus site they do not mention any Xeon's? Suggestion's? Should I just try it? It fits the socket, would a bios up date make it work? I"m heavily vested(not really but)I don't wanna spend a whole lots getting this up n running...............HELP!

 
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YBS1

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It'll almost certainly work, even without a BIOS update. I was running a W3520 right from the X58 platform's beginnings.
 

PhIlLy ChEeSe

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It'll almost certainly work, even without a BIOS update. I was running a W3520 right from the X58 platform's beginnings.


I thought so, just being cautious as I haven't touched one in sometime. My resivour broke so I'll make a make shift one tomorrow then post back. Not bad for a $45 board huh?
 

Burpo

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Nice to find one that's fixable for that price.. The W3520 Xeons are 130 watt 45nm CPUs & don't overclock as well as the 95 watt 32nm Xeons. The X5650 is cheap enough that you should consider selling off the W3520 and getting a Hexcore
 
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