Xeons are new Opterons

[Capt Caveman]

Umm. Check the link I have posted above. Someone already has a 3050 and it only has 2mb L2 Cache. The 3040, therefore, will also only have 2mb L2 Cache.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Mandatory Question: if a board runs C2D, it should run these too, right? No need for BIOS updates or stuff like that? If someone were to order a 965/975 mobo today along with one of these CPUs, they won't have to go looking for an old CPU to boot the PC with, right?

$12 for a Xeon 3060 over an E6600 (at the Egg) seems like a no-brainer, if the A64 vs. Opteron scenario applies here too. And Xeon sounds cool too!

Edit: Is the stock heatsink the same, or do Xeon users get a beefier unit?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yes, the OP has a 3060 on a C2D supported 975 mobo and the link I've provided above shows a 3050 running on a 965 mobo.

 

[Avalon]

Well this is pretty cool indeed. That Xeon 3050 OC to 3.7+ is nice!

 

[evenmore1]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Umm. Check the link I have posted above. Someone already has a 3050 and it only has 2mb L2 Cache. The 3040, therefore, will also only have 2mb L2 Cache.

So Intel's website is wrong and CPU-Z on a new chip is right?
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TW
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TY

^^ what the others posted earlier

I'm totally confused now, Newegg doesn't even have the 3050's...

 

[sanitydc]

I read it right off their PDF presentation... seriously go buy one for the 4mb cache, I'll laugh when it's only 2 mb.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: sanitydc
I read it right off their PDF presentation... seriously go buy one for the 4mb cache, I'll laugh when it's only 2 mb.

Some1 email intel already to get official response.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: evenmore1

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Umm. Check the link I have posted above. Someone already has a 3050 and it only has 2mb L2 Cache. The 3040, therefore, will also only have 2mb L2 Cache.

So Intel's website is wrong and CPU-Z on a new chip is right?
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TW
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TY

^^ what the others posted earlier

I'm totally confused now, Newegg doesn't even have the 3050's...

If you check mamisano's post above, he has links to Intel's website that shows the 3040 and 3050 w/ 2mb L2 Cache. If all Intel documentation stated 4mb L2 Cache it would be one thing but when they list both, I'll trust the guy from XS who actually has a Xeon 3050.

 

[evenmore1]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: evenmore1

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Umm. Check the link I have posted above. Someone already has a 3050 and it only has 2mb L2 Cache. The 3040, therefore, will also only have 2mb L2 Cache.

So Intel's website is wrong and CPU-Z on a new chip is right?
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TW
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TY

^^ what the others posted earlier

I'm totally confused now, Newegg doesn't even have the 3050's...

If you check mamisano's post above, he has links to Intel's website that shows the 3040 and 3050 w/ 2mb L2 Cache. If all Intel documentation stated 4mb L2 Cache it would be one thing but when they list both, I'll trust the guy from XS who actually has a Xeon 3050.

Ah, ok thanks for that bit. Newegg should change that. They don't have an integrated memory controller do they?

edit: ok, so why would someone get the Xeon over the Conroe?

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: lopri
Update: 3.7GHz done

Load
Idle

I might as well try 3.8Ghz for the hell of it but it looks like 3.6GHz will be my 24/7 clock.

What kind of HSF are you using? I get about the same temps (a little higher) @3.5GHz with a Scythe Infinity.

I use Ultra-120 with this fan. I was skeptical about the 3 blades but it seems to do the job well. It's very heavy-duty and actually heavier than Panaflo Medium! Amazingly it's quieter than Panaflo Medium, too. It's a bit pricey, however.

Originally posted by: evenmore1

edit: ok, so why would someone get the Xeon over the Conroe?

If you flip the question then it's obvious that it doesn't hurt. I'd think the chance of high OC is bigger with Xeons. I'm still awaiting the first report from folks who purchased 3040/3050. Still hoping those are 4MB versions. (Maybe Japanese version is 2MB. )

 

[lopri]

Update: 3.8GHz is only benchmark-stable with my current cooling.
Super PI 32M @3.8GHz / DDR2-844 (3-3-3-8)

Unexpected bonus: I've just found out the new BIOS on this board allows 4:5 ratio @400+FSB. Now I have a more flexibility with the memory configuration and have nice and even DDR2-1000. Previously the only possible ratio above 400FSB was 1:1.
Super PI 32M @3.6GHz / DDR2-1000 (4-4-3-9)

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Edit: Is the stock heatsink the same, or do Xeon users get a beefier unit?

Same sh*tty HSF.

 

[secretanchitman]

so does the 3040 have 4MB or no...?

if so, screw the E6600! i can probably overclock just as much as one too!

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: evenmore1

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: evenmore1

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Umm. Check the link I have posted above. Someone already has a 3050 and it only has 2mb L2 Cache. The 3040, therefore, will also only have 2mb L2 Cache.

So Intel's website is wrong and CPU-Z on a new chip is right?
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TW
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TY

^^ what the others posted earlier

I'm totally confused now, Newegg doesn't even have the 3050's...

If you check mamisano's post above, he has links to Intel's website that shows the 3040 and 3050 w/ 2mb L2 Cache. If all Intel documentation stated 4mb L2 Cache it would be one thing but when they list both, I'll trust the guy from XS who actually has a Xeon 3050.

Ah, ok thanks for that bit. Newegg should change that. They don't have an integrated memory controller do they?

edit: ok, so why would someone get the Xeon over the Conroe?

Because maybe, possibly, they can overclock slightly better. But with all 6400s reaching 3.2Ghz without much trouble...no point to me.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
so does the 3040 have 4MB or no...?

if so, screw the E6600! i can probably overclock just as much as one too!

No it doesn't...people around other sites have purchased them and found it to be 2MB as linked above for the 3050. Generally they will overclock slightly better at lower voltages, but all 6400s I've seen can do 3.2Ghz without effort. More than that isn't a big deal for me.

 

[BoboKatt]

Any online place in Canada that carries these? NewEgg hates us... so no choice there.

 

[renethx]

The most fundamental source of Dual-Core Xeon 3000 Series is

Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 3000 Series Datasheet

that says

• 4 MB Advanced Smart Cache (Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® processors 3070 and 3060 only)
• 2 MB Advanced Smart Cache (Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® processors 3050 and 3040 only)

(page 9)

• Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® processors 3070 and 3060 ? Dual core processor in the FC-LGA6 package with a 4 MB L2 cache.
• Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® processors 3050 and 3040? Dual core processor in the FC-LGA6 package with a 2 MB L2 cache.

(page 12)