Xfx 5770

[Dr J]

Greetings,

I'm about to build a new computer and thought the 5770 an ideal choice, as it's low in power consumption, yet has good performance. There are several manufacturers, but the XFX is local and available. I'm writing to ask if this company makes good products, or, are there better examples?

Another popular choice is BFG GTX 275 for an additional $60. How do the two (with 5770) compare, or, are there better choices, yet?

thanks,

John

 

[ZipSpeed]

From what I've read, XFX is a popular choice because of their warranty and customer service. I haven't actually owned a XFX product so I'm simply regurgitating the experience of others.

 

[v8envy]

The 5770 is close (slower at higher resolutions & FSAA) to the 4870 and 260. DX11 and eyefinity aren't important on this little hardware. While having great idle power usage at load it still needs quite a bit of power.

The 275 should be at least 10-20% faster across the board. 4890 is faster as well (in fact, beating the 5830). Whether that's worth the extra $ is up to you.

Better choices might be GTS250 and 4850 to save $ and wait for better $/performance cards in the future, or 5850 for better performance at a much higher price. The 5830 will be too expensive for what you get.

 

[jtisgeek]

I sent my 5770 back xfx support is pretty good. I get a 4890 at a local bestbuy on clearance for 160 and couldn't past it up. Now compareing the 2 now I like the 4890 much better noticeable faster in everything I play right now.

Now for me the dx 11 and other features aren't that big of a deal for me since I just want the best 1920by1200 for the games right now.

Now power does play in to this so if you want a cheaper psu smaller case 5770 is a very good option.

 

[Dr J]

Thanks for your responses. The XFX 4890 is actually cheaper than the 5770; is this really the better choice? I doubt I'd need the directx 11 feature, although I do like the low idle current draw on the 5770. Apart from this, what would I be missing out if I purchased the 4890 and how much more power would it draw?

 

[ScavengerLX]

The temperature, noise and power consumption are completely different between a 4890 and a 5770. I've had both card so I am speaking from experience.

- My XFX 5770 idles at 38 degrees while my old Asus 4890 idled at 65 degrees.

- The fan on the 4890 was obnoxious while gaming but I can't even hear the fan on my 5770.

- Idle power consumption for the 5770 is 17w with 100w under load. The 4890 idles at 60w and maxes out 180w.

 

[jtisgeek]

If your 4890 idled at 65 it had a bad heatsink combo or bad air flow in your case. Mine sets around 42 to 44c I have the fan locked at 60% fan doesn't ever bother me. I liked the 5770 but it just doesn't have the near as much power.

What size lcd are you going to be useing ? 24 or under 5770 will be great if it's 24 or higher you will want the 4890.It is harder to find 4890's right now but there out there. For the money right now you can also look at cheaper 4870's and just overclock some. If you want to crossfire 2 4850's are really good right now and you can get them a 100 dollars right now so all around the same money.

 

[ScavengerLX]

If your 4890 idled at 65 it had a bad heatsink combo or bad air flow in your case. Mine sets around 42 to 44c I have the fan locked at 60% fan doesn't ever bother me. I liked the 5770 but it just doesn't have the near as much power.

What size lcd are you going to be useing ? 24 or under 5770 will be great if it's 24 or higher you will want the 4890.It is harder to find 4890's right now but there out there. For the money right now you can also look at cheaper 4870's and just overclock some. If you want to crossfire 2 4850's are really good right now and you can get them a 100 dollars right now so all around the same money.

My 4890 wasn't broken. It was running the factory fan profile. 60% fan speed on any 4800 series card is going to be extremely loud. Different strokes for different folks though.

 

[jtisgeek]

My 4890 wasn't broken. It was running the factory fan profile. 60% fan speed on any 4800 series card is going to be extremely loud. Different strokes for different folks though.

Yeah maybe but I just didn't want him to think all 4890's run in the 60c range.

I still have driver problems with the flickering and stuff with my 5770 but I don't want to hold that against it cause drivers will get it fixed and it only really bad when running 2 lcd's I don't think most people will see it.

 

[ScavengerLX]

Yeah maybe but I just didn't want him to think all 4890's run in the 60c range.

I still have driver problems with the flickering and stuff with my 5770 but I don't want to hold that against it cause drivers will get it fixed and it only really bad when running 2 lcd's I don't think most people will see it.

I did love my 4890 though. First GPU I ever owned that ran at 1GHz.

 

[Dr J]

Thank you all; I think I'm going to give the 5770 a try, this time.

 

[ScavengerLX]

Sounds good. Let us know what you think.

 

[jtisgeek]

Cool man let us know what you can get it to overclock to am curious if they are binning there cards much yet.

 

[hardass]

I love my 5770+5750 xfire setup!!! Does more than I thought it would!

 

[jtisgeek]

I love my 5770+5750 xfire setup!!! Does more than I thought it would!

Yeah I have really been thinking about doing that. Am surprised that there isn't more people doing crossfire setups with the 5750 there pretty cheap.

 

[alexruiz]

The 5770 is close (slightly faster using newer catalyst) to the 4870 and 260. DX11 and eyefinity aren't important on this little hardware. While having great idle power usage at load it still needs quite a bit of power.
.

Fixed.

We have been going on this in several threads. The newer drivers have made the 5770 go "slightly but consistently slower" than the 4870 or GTX260 to "slightly but consistently faster"

Check reviews other than Anand's. One example only, Guru3d review of the 5830, using cat 10.2 shows the 5770 ahead

As far as bang of the buck however, if he can find a 4850 for $100, that is a no brainer.

 

[Dr J]

Hello everyone ... need help with one more choice!

The XFX 5770 is available in three formats, the new, more cheaply designed version (not reference) and then two based on the reference design:

http://www.bestdirect.ca/search/?kw=xfx+5770

I want the reference design, as it exhausts outside of the case. The overclocked version is advertised for as high as $250 cnd, available here for $206.91. The difference between the stock and overclocked reference design is only $20. I'd go for the overclocked version, but as the drivers are immature and as there's been complaining that this vid card is glitchy, I'm a little hesitant, thinking the stock version might be more stable?

Any and all info and/or advice appreciated!

thanks,

John

 

[jtisgeek]

Going to be glitch either way with the drivers 10.2 are much better. Go with the overclock out of the box for 20 bucks lets you know you probably got a better binned chip.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

I chose the egg cooler after reading countless times that it was better. I was worried about the fact that it doesn't exhaust, but I threw any fears out the door once I checked temps. I idle at 38C with the egg cooler and haven't seen a drastic change in case temps. As long as you don't have crap airflow you'll be fine with the egg.

I've had more luck with 10.2 although it's not perfect.

 

[Dr J]

Thanks for the head's up on the cooling. Unfortunately, I'm still not sure about it. I think the original design superior and while it may not cool the GPU as effectively, it, at least, dumps all the heat out of the case. I'm re-using my Xavier III case, which is filtered, is not open in the way that the new designs are. Also, I plan to air cool the cpu and so am a bit concerned about case temps. The egg design, the more effective it is, the more heat it dumps into the case.

http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/04/...cond-edition-performance-comparison/6015.html

Any further thoughts appreciated!

 

[Imp]

I chose the egg cooler after reading countless times that it was better. I was worried about the fact that it doesn't exhaust, but I threw any fears out the door once I checked temps. I idle at 38C with the egg cooler and haven't seen a drastic change in case temps. As long as you don't have crap airflow you'll be fine with the egg.

I've had more luck with 10.2 although it's not perfect.

I also chose the egg cooler but regret it because I didn't realize how close the card is to my sound card in the PCI slot that's 2 slots over. The reference design probably would be better, in my case and in case you don't have a free slot to let it breath; reference cooler has the fan near the back, and it's an intake with hot air going out back. I took out the sound card for a bit and the idles went from 40 C to 30 C. I'm peaking at 80 C at load now.

 

[Dr J]

I think I know why the reference version of the 5770 runs hot; it's because of the combination of dual dvi support, along with HDMI, which populates the mounting bracket, leaving little room for the exhaust port:

http://www.motherboards.org/imageview.html?i=/images/reviews/hardware/1957_p3_11.jpg

On most vid cards, having this type of cooler, nearly 1/2 of the face of the mounting bracket is open to allow heat exhaust:

http://www.motherboards.org/imageview.html?i=/images/articles/interviews/1490_p2_6.jpg

I wonder if I shouldn't consider some other video card?

thanks,

John

 

[happy medium]

Yea, get this one for 150$ shipped and 10 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161317

 

[gen3d]

The new open type cooler actually does a better job cooling. I just bought a XFX 5770 with the open type cooler for my other PC I sometimes use, and it's a pretty nice card. It also overclocks better then any other video card I've ever owned, and I've been overclocking video card sine 1995. Using ATI Overdrive I took the card from the default 800 core 1200 memory to 960 core 1445 memory. In fact that is the max the program will let me go. Anyone know of another overclocking program that will let me go higher, because it's rock stable at the max right now.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

The new open type cooler actually does a better job cooling. I just bought a XFX 5770 with the open type cooler for my other PC I sometimes use, and it's a pretty nice card. It also overclocks better then any other video card I've ever owned, and I've been overclocking video card sine 1995. Using ATI Overdrive I took the card from the default 800 core 1200 memory to 960 core 1445 memory. In fact that is the max the program will let me go. Anyone know of another overclocking program that will let me go higher, because it's rock stable at the max right now.

I got mine to 1000/1350 using Tray Tools. Didn't feel like taking the memory up further since stock speeds are enough for my resolution.