Originally posted by: Bleh
What out tho. Usually Asus video cards are downclocked version of the real card. I.E. Ive seen Asus "6800gt" that have 350 mhz core but 700mhz memory, so be careful.
Originally posted by: vinayb
what about msi vs asus?
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Much much closer there.
I would have to lean towards Asus, but MSI is not bad by any means. The MSI will probably OC higher but the Asus will probably be a little better quality.
Originally posted by: Viper87227
Bah...I like XFX. I have had an XFX 5900 and XFX 6800GT. Both were great cards. Exellent overclockers, and you gotta love teh blue PCB. On what grounds are you guys basing asus over XFX?
I myself hate asus cards. They are terrable cards from a terrable company. They pulled alot of bullshit scams with the 6800 line of cards. They used weird naming to trick people into buying cards that were all screwy. Such as teh 6800 that has 16 pipes, but DDR1 as 6800 clock speeds, yet they called it a 6800GT and sold it for more thant he 6800GT. I also have never ever liked their pricing. They are often $50-$100 more than there compitition for a worse card, and how do they justify it, they give you a webcam with your videocard A perfect example is the Asus X800XL. Its priced over $130 more than the cheapest X800XL, AND its clocked lower than X800XL spec. Every other XL is atleast 400/980 and has 256MB of GDDR3. The asus is clocked at 392/700 and has 256MB of DDR1. $130 more for a crappier card...SIGN ME UP! And, if anyone yells what about dual DVI, you can get a normal clocked, GDDR3 dual DVI card for $70 less. Asus is selling brand name crap!
Get any brand but Asus.
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Viper87227
Bah...I like XFX. I have had an XFX 5900 and XFX 6800GT. Both were great cards. Exellent overclockers, and you gotta love teh blue PCB. On what grounds are you guys basing asus over XFX?
I myself hate asus cards. They are terrable cards from a terrable company. They pulled alot of bullshit scams with the 6800 line of cards. They used weird naming to trick people into buying cards that were all screwy. Such as teh 6800 that has 16 pipes, but DDR1 as 6800 clock speeds, yet they called it a 6800GT and sold it for more thant he 6800GT. I also have never ever liked their pricing. They are often $50-$100 more than there compitition for a worse card, and how do they justify it, they give you a webcam with your videocard A perfect example is the Asus X800XL. Its priced over $130 more than the cheapest X800XL, AND its clocked lower than X800XL spec. Every other XL is atleast 400/980 and has 256MB of GDDR3. The asus is clocked at 392/700 and has 256MB of DDR1. $130 more for a crappier card...SIGN ME UP! And, if anyone yells what about dual DVI, you can get a normal clocked, GDDR3 dual DVI card for $70 less. Asus is selling brand name crap!
Get any brand but Asus.
Asus dosent set prices for their cards. supply and demand form stupid people do.
if you dont know what your'e talking about stay out of it. ASUS is WAY better than XFX. XFX has had many capitor issues, and other crap not usually associated with the other companies. their customer service is widely hailed as the worst in the industry. There is a reason why they charge less.
I have a geforce2ti from ASUS and it works wonderfully. dosent have 1 single problem to complain of.
Originally posted by: Viper87227
If asus charges the retailer more for the card, the retailer is naturally going to raise the price. Dont think Asus is selling these card to resalers for the same prices as everyone else. Alsoo..I still dont see how everyone can look past the fact that Asus cripples their cards and then gives them misleading names to make people who dont know that much about technology think its just as good. Did you not look at that XL examlpe. THe other cards would perform quite a bit beter, for over $100 LESS! If you woudl like, I can provide more examples of Asus doing this. Even if you dont trust XFX, go with an honest john brand like Leadtek or evga.
Originally posted by: mwmorph
search xfx and find all the threads you need to figure why xfx sucks.
Originally posted by: Viper87227
Originally posted by: mwmorph
search xfx and find all the threads you need to figure why xfx sucks.
Ive never had a problem with XFX, but if there cards have shown problems then thats fine, dont get XFX, but I still in any right mind cannot reccomend ASUS. Also, on the issue of pricing, ill even go with you on that and saying its the retail marking it up, that doesnt exuse the fac that most of there cards are in some way crippled / underclocked / not to spec and use a decieving name to sell them because there a well known brand.
Originally posted by: Viper87227
Its just poor busniess practice the way Asus tricks customers I understand other companies to it, such as your atlantis example, but they atleast add something to the name to raise a question. Asus is giving the products the exact same name. Like you said, this not really woth arguing over, but I am sticking to my guns on reccomending any brand but Asus. You will either pay the same, or a bit more for a lesster quality card or pay much more for the same thing everyone else is selling. I stick to reccomending brands like Evga and Ledteak. They offer stock specs, quality cards, and good prices.
Originally posted by: McArra
Originally posted by: Viper87227
Its just poor busniess practice the way Asus tricks customers I understand other companies to it, such as your atlantis example, but they atleast add something to the name to raise a question. Asus is giving the products the exact same name. Like you said, this not really woth arguing over, but I am sticking to my guns on reccomending any brand but Asus. You will either pay the same, or a bit more for a lesster quality card or pay much more for the same thing everyone else is selling. I stick to reccomending brands like Evga and Ledteak. They offer stock specs, quality cards, and good prices.
This is called ignorance, if you aren't able of knowing what you are buying then you deserve it....