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kyparrish

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: kyparrish
Opie & Anthony Show, and Ron & Fez show (funniest show I've ever heard in life) on XM 202 for me.

i thought the former went back to testicle radio?

The hardest working duo in radio does Free FM from 6-9am M-F (which XM gets to hear uncensored even if something is dumped out of on Free FM), then they do exclusive XM shows M-F from 9am-11am (and can go to 12pm if necessary).

So, on XM we get a minimum 5 hours a day, sometimes up to 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. Every week. The replays every day become basically turbocharged where you get to hear everything without the FM commercials, etc. For someone like myself who might do 1,000 miles every week driving around to clients houses, it's like audible crack.
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
spoken like a true XM fanboi. stern is the most relevant thing to radio there ever was, and his shows keep getting better and better.

join the revolution 1/9/06.

I've had XM since 2003. I like the service, have never had any problems with it, and overall, think it is a good service. What is really funny is that the people that try to tout Sirius use Stern as their one and only argument. Stern sucks--when I was abbout 15, I thought he was funny. the kielbasa queen...stuff like that was edgy and hilarious. Unfortunately, I grew up and he did not. 20 years later, he is just a slimeball perv that doesn't do anything except objectify women as sex objects. perhaps that is why so few subs were gained when he actually made the switch.

4 million people is few? wrong. join the revolution.

From Yahoo Finance

As of December 31, 2005, the company offered 133 channels of programming to listeners, comprising 69 commercial-free music channels, as well as 64 channels of sports, news, talk, entertainment, traffic, weather, and data content. As of the above date, it had 3,316,560 subscribers.

Stern didn't bring in 4 million subscribers. Sirius only has about 4 million total.

 

chibchakan

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Stern sucks--when I was abbout 15, I thought he was funny. the kielbasa queen...stuff like that was edgy and hilarious. Unfortunately, I grew up and he did not. 20 years later, he is just a slimeball perv that doesn't do anything except objectify women as sex objects. perhaps that is why so few subs were gained when he actually made the switch.




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"Stern Effect" Not Done Yet


The King Of All Media > Dopie & Aintfunny
 

kyparrish

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Originally posted by: chibchakan

The King Of All Media > Dopie & Aintfunny

I'm done arguing O&A vs. Stern. Obviously the majority here prefer Stern and that's cool.

/runs back to the 202 replay on XM.
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: chibchakan
"Stern Effect" Not Done Yet

from the article you linked above:

Bridge now projects 6.5 million subscribers for Sirius while XM's total subscriber count will land at 8.4 million by year end 2006, which is 100,000 less than what XM recently stated in a subscriber projection adjustment.

recent radio sales are about even, but XM still leads in subscribers.

And why are you making this a Stern vs Opie & Anthony debate? I casually mentioned them in a reply to the OP regarding comedy, but you seem to think I want to debate who is better. This was supposed to be an XM vs Sirius discussion and it got taken into a Stern thread. Even so, my comments have been strictly about Stern and how I am not a fan. I have not mentioned O&A at all.

(For the record, I do listen to them sometimes, but I would not claim to be a rabid fan. I used to occasionally listen to Stern on FM radio occasionally, too, even though I don't like him that much.)
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
I'll take a fresher crowd with smarter humor who actually cares about furthering their careers and working their asses off than some old washed up hack who got a huge payday and lost his passion for making great innovative radio a long time ago. Plus, Stern should have cut off Robin a LONG time ago. Whenever I hear a clip of Stern ranting and Robin just blabbering on and on, I really want to drive into a pole.

You really couldn't have a more warped idea of the show.

Anyway, personalities aside, I've got Sirius and I've enjoyed every bit of it.
 

kyparrish

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: kyparrish
kyparrish blah blah blah

You really couldn't have a more warped idea of the show.

Anyway, personalities aside, I've got Sirius and I've enjoyed every bit of it.

Well, I'm just done with it. They're just radio shows, I prefer O&A and R&F. Not worth making my blood boil
 

aphex

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Have to agree, Sirius ROCKS!!

I've had it for nearly 3 years now, well before Stern joined on.... and I've loved EVERY MINUTE of it!!!

Well worth the $13/mo (cheaper if you prepay a year or more), and Stern is just the icing on the cake.
 
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Originally posted by: kyparrish

Great argument. He's the self-proclaimed (ever notice how most articles written on the guy say that) King of All Media. Maybe in 1990.

It's really just what you want to listen to. Different strokes for different folks.

I'll take a fresher crowd with smarter humor who actually cares about furthering their careers and working their asses off than some old washed up hack who got a huge payday and lost his passion for making great innovative radio a long time ago. Plus, Stern should have cut off Robin a LONG time ago. Whenever I hear a clip of Stern ranting and Robin just blabbering on and on, I really want to drive into a pole.

Dopie and Aintfunny, hahahaha OMFG, O&A have never heard that before, did you make that up just now? How about you call in tomorrow and let them know of the name you just thought of. You should know the number if you call between 6am-9am. It's probably the same one you could reach Hoo Hoo on last year. The screeners would let you on to so that you could get torched.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Anthony is a slavering Stern wannabe (actually the first time I heard him was when he came on the Stern show to do his Jackie impression, years ago), and Opie a talentless asskissing jackass (he's like the Arsenio Hall of "shock radio"). O&A attracted a whopping 35,000 subscribers to XM - no wonder they couldn't resist snacking on more of Howard's table scraps by going to K-Rock. You can call Howard "Hoo Hoo" all you want, but without Howard, O&A would be working in a bowling alley right now.
 

Nightfall

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I love this "tastes great" "less filling" debate.

My parents have Sirius. My wife and I have XM. I have taken a few road trips with my parents and the Sirius radio is very nice. My wife and I love XM. Both sides have tons of commercial free music so you can get your fix on either one.

XM has baseball and will have hockey exclusively in a few years since they signed a long term deal. Sirius has the NFL and will have hockey for 2 more years I believe. Each side has some really interesting shows like the Mark Cuban show and Phil Jackson show on Sirius. XM has a good 24/7 baseball and hockey talk station.

On the comedy and talk, XM has opie and anthony with Ron and Fez as well. Then you have the Bob Dylan show and Tom Petty Buried Treasure. On the Sirius side, you have Stern and Martha Stewart.

My advice, go with what works. There is no "better" satellite radio provider. Anyone saying that one is better than the other is a moron. Lets face facts here, XM or Sirius is so much better than AM/FM radio. Whatever you choose will be fine.

/thread
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
spoken like a true XM fanboi. stern is the most relevant thing to radio there ever was, and his shows keep getting better and better.

join the revolution 1/9/06.

I've had XM since 2003. I like the service, have never had any problems with it, and overall, think it is a good service. What is really funny is that the people that try to tout Sirius use Stern as their one and only argument. Stern sucks--when I was abbout 15, I thought he was funny. the kielbasa queen...stuff like that was edgy and hilarious. Unfortunately, I grew up and he did not. 20 years later, he is just a slimeball perv that doesn't do anything except objectify women as sex objects. perhaps that is why so few subs were gained when he actually made the switch.

4 million people is few? wrong. join the revolution.

From Yahoo Finance

As of December 31, 2005, the company offered 133 channels of programming to listeners, comprising 69 commercial-free music channels, as well as 64 channels of sports, news, talk, entertainment, traffic, weather, and data content. As of the above date, it had 3,316,560 subscribers.

Stern didn't bring in 4 million subscribers. Sirius only has about 4 million total.

Dude, you are freakin' irritating. Your hatred for Stern has apparently driven you into a SERIOUS state of denial. Before Stern, XM was beating Sirius' ass in subscribers, BADLY. I would actually say that Sirius would have been going under pretty soon due to XM's dominance. Now Sirius is a BIG player and has even forced FM radio to change the slogan to FREE FM (fvcking retarded). Someone that is "no longer relevant" doesn't cause MONSTER waves like that. But forget Stern, my brother had XM for 2 years and now got Sirius. He has both services and prefers Sirius. His exact words are, "it seems like Sirius has better programming." Like others have said, the rock and comedy channels are GREAT.

 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: gotsmack
Sirius has a better comedy line up, but they added talent to their uncensored channel the guys from Sopranos, and Jim Brewer. That killed it for me. I don't like listening to them, I just want to listen to standup.

XM has 3 comedy channels, but their regular comedy and uncensored stuff isn;t as funny as the stuff on Sirius. They added a New Canadian standup channel, but for some reason I was never able to tune it to them.

Sirius has the Playboy channel for free (you have to activate it through the web page) and Maxim Radio kicks ass.

My vote goes to Sirius.

The thing that really made me switch was the $500 lifetime of radio deal which ended. But now even if my radio breaks 3 times which runs out my $500 lifetime sub, I can still get service for $6 a month as an add on radio.

XM used to have the Playboy channel as an extra subscription fee...I never even considered it because I couldn't see the point. Playboy on the radio??? I know nothing about the channel offering, but it just seems like an oxy moron.

They offered a lifetime sub for $500? I'd say that's a risky gamble since Satellite radio is in it's infancy. If I had to guess, XM and Sirius will probably end up merging or one will buy the other out eventually. Either that, or additional providers will enter the market. Right now, the cost per sub for Sirius is pretty high and they are hemorraging cash. XM is expected to start turning a profit in late 2006, i believe. But even with that in mind, both are still losing money at the moment and there is stills ignificant risk that one or both providers may not make it longer term.

I don't regret it, I've had it for almost a year now and I feel that I have gotten my money's worth.

I don't think they're going under and they;re getting a lot of good exposure/press and their content line up is pretty good.

But this thread isn't about that, this thread is about content and I believe Sirius has a better line up. Just my opinion and Playboy is just dirty talk, it's fun to listen to.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Nightfall
I love this "tastes great" "less filling" debate.

My parents have Sirius. My wife and I have XM. I have taken a few road trips with my parents and the Sirius radio is very nice. My wife and I love XM. Both sides have tons of commercial free music so you can get your fix on either one.

XM has baseball and will have hockey exclusively in a few years since they signed a long term deal. Sirius has the NFL and will have hockey for 2 more years I believe. Each side has some really interesting shows like the Mark Cuban show and Phil Jackson show on Sirius. XM has a good 24/7 baseball and hockey talk station.

On the comedy and talk, XM has opie and anthony with Ron and Fez as well. Then you have the Bob Dylan show and Tom Petty Buried Treasure. On the Sirius side, you have Stern and Martha Stewart.

My advice, go with what works. There is no "better" satellite radio provider. Anyone saying that one is better than the other is a moron. Lets face facts here, XM or Sirius is so much better than AM/FM radio. Whatever you choose will be fine.

/thread
EXACTLY!
 

kyparrish

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Stern>God

I've edited my posts above. I'm done arguing, it seems like we get one of these threads every week, and it's always the same cast of Stern lovers vs. me.

I'm just done arguing, I prefer O&A, everyone on ATOT prefers Stern. They are fvcking radio shows, that's it.






 
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Nightfall
I love this "tastes great" "less filling" debate.

My parents have Sirius. My wife and I have XM. I have taken a few road trips with my parents and the Sirius radio is very nice. My wife and I love XM. Both sides have tons of commercial free music so you can get your fix on either one.

XM has baseball and will have hockey exclusively in a few years since they signed a long term deal. Sirius has the NFL and will have hockey for 2 more years I believe. Each side has some really interesting shows like the Mark Cuban show and Phil Jackson show on Sirius. XM has a good 24/7 baseball and hockey talk station.

On the comedy and talk, XM has opie and anthony with Ron and Fez as well. Then you have the Bob Dylan show and Tom Petty Buried Treasure. On the Sirius side, you have Stern and Martha Stewart.

My advice, go with what works. There is no "better" satellite radio provider. Anyone saying that one is better than the other is a moron. Lets face facts here, XM or Sirius is so much better than AM/FM radio. Whatever you choose will be fine.

/thread
EXACTLY!

Yea, everyone with a personal opinion is a moron....
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
spoken like a true XM fanboi. stern is the most relevant thing to radio there ever was, and his shows keep getting better and better.

join the revolution 1/9/06.

I've had XM since 2003. I like the service, have never had any problems with it, and overall, think it is a good service. What is really funny is that the people that try to tout Sirius use Stern as their one and only argument. Stern sucks--when I was abbout 15, I thought he was funny. the kielbasa queen...stuff like that was edgy and hilarious. Unfortunately, I grew up and he did not. 20 years later, he is just a slimeball perv that doesn't do anything except objectify women as sex objects. perhaps that is why so few subs were gained when he actually made the switch.

4 million people is few? wrong. join the revolution.

From Yahoo Finance

As of December 31, 2005, the company offered 133 channels of programming to listeners, comprising 69 commercial-free music channels, as well as 64 channels of sports, news, talk, entertainment, traffic, weather, and data content. As of the above date, it had 3,316,560 subscribers.

Stern didn't bring in 4 million subscribers. Sirius only has about 4 million total.

uh, yeah, as of december 31st. stern didn't debut until january 9.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Nightfall
I love this "tastes great" "less filling" debate.

My parents have Sirius. My wife and I have XM. I have taken a few road trips with my parents and the Sirius radio is very nice. My wife and I love XM. Both sides have tons of commercial free music so you can get your fix on either one.

XM has baseball and will have hockey exclusively in a few years since they signed a long term deal. Sirius has the NFL and will have hockey for 2 more years I believe. Each side has some really interesting shows like the Mark Cuban show and Phil Jackson show on Sirius. XM has a good 24/7 baseball and hockey talk station.

On the comedy and talk, XM has opie and anthony with Ron and Fez as well. Then you have the Bob Dylan show and Tom Petty Buried Treasure. On the Sirius side, you have Stern and Martha Stewart.

My advice, go with what works. There is no "better" satellite radio provider. Anyone saying that one is better than the other is a moron. Lets face facts here, XM or Sirius is so much better than AM/FM radio. Whatever you choose will be fine.

/thread
EXACTLY!

Yea, everyone with a personal opinion is a moron....
No, just you.
 

chibchakan

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
Originally posted by: chibchakan

The King Of All Media > Dopie & Aintfunny


Great argument. He's the self-proclaimed (ever notice how most articles written on the guy say that) King of All Media.


Howard has never taken that title seriously. It was always meant as a joke. He came up with that after Michael Jackson started calling himself the king of pop.


It's really just what you want to listen to. Different strokes for different folks.

I'll take a fresher crowd with smarter humor who actually cares about furthering their careers and working their asses off than some old washed up hack who got a huge payday and lost his passion for making great innovative radio a long time ago.

He gets paid more because he deserves it, get over it.


Plus, Stern should have cut off Robin a LONG time ago. Whenever I hear a clip of Stern ranting and Robin just blabbering on and on, I really want to drive into a pole.

Yeah, maybe he should had replaced her with Lobster girl.


Dopie and Aintfunny, hahahaha OMFG, O&A have never heard that before, did you make that up just now? How about you call in tomorrow and let them know of the name you just thought of. You should know the number if you call between 6am-9am. It's probably the same one you could reach Hoo Hoo on last year. The screeners would let you on to so that you could get torched.

:roll:
 
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Nightfall
I love this "tastes great" "less filling" debate.

My parents have Sirius. My wife and I have XM. I have taken a few road trips with my parents and the Sirius radio is very nice. My wife and I love XM. Both sides have tons of commercial free music so you can get your fix on either one.

XM has baseball and will have hockey exclusively in a few years since they signed a long term deal. Sirius has the NFL and will have hockey for 2 more years I believe. Each side has some really interesting shows like the Mark Cuban show and Phil Jackson show on Sirius. XM has a good 24/7 baseball and hockey talk station.

On the comedy and talk, XM has opie and anthony with Ron and Fez as well. Then you have the Bob Dylan show and Tom Petty Buried Treasure. On the Sirius side, you have Stern and Martha Stewart.

My advice, go with what works. There is no "better" satellite radio provider. Anyone saying that one is better than the other is a moron. Lets face facts here, XM or Sirius is so much better than AM/FM radio. Whatever you choose will be fine.

/thread
EXACTLY!

Yea, everyone with a personal opinion is a moron....
No, just you.

haha
 

NYHoustonman

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Originally posted by: chibchakan
Originally posted by: kyparrish
Originally posted by: chibchakan

The King Of All Media > Dopie & Aintfunny


Great argument. He's the self-proclaimed (ever notice how most articles written on the guy say that) King of All Media.


'Howard has never taken that title seriously. It was always meant as a joke. He came up with that after Michael Jackson started calling himself the king of pop.


It's really just what you want to listen to. Different strokes for different folks.

I'll take a fresher crowd with smarter humor who actually cares about furthering their careers and working their asses off than some old washed up hack who got a huge payday and lost his passion for making great innovative radio a long time ago.

He gets paid more because he deserves it, get over it.

He gets paid more for name recognition... Whether or not he deserves it when he does far less actual broadcasting than certain other shows is another story. From a business standpoint he deserves it because he brings listeners, but is he earning it? Up for debate.

There is no doubting that he brought many subscriptions to Sirius, but (as a side note) I don't think it was anywhere near 4 million.

Plus, Stern should have cut off Robin a LONG time ago. Whenever I hear a clip of Stern ranting and Robin just blabbering on and on, I really want to drive into a pole.

Yeah, maybe he should had replaced her with Lobster girl.
Insert random Stern reference here.
Dopie and Aintfunny, hahahaha OMFG, O&A have never heard that before, did you make that up just now? How about you call in tomorrow and let them know of the name you just thought of. You should know the number if you call between 6am-9am. It's probably the same one you could reach Hoo Hoo on last year. The screeners would let you on to so that you could get torched.

:roll:

In the end, it all comes down to personal opinion - and I truly wish fewer people were swayed by O&A's and Howard's ramblings about the other show. I used to listen to Stern on the radio in NY on the way to school, and he was okay, but nothing I would have considered paying a monthly fee for - perhaps because I never gave him the chance, but whatever. Stern has his moments, but I do believe that his best years are behind him. He was an innovator, no doubt, but (and I've posted this before) as far as I'm concerned at the very least Anthony is more 'talented.' His impressions, improv skills, and overall sense of humor are great. Jim Norton, who gets hardly a mention in these debates, has ridiculous improvisational skills, and has a wicked sense of humor. Opie, I must admit, seems like the odd man out at times, but from what I hear he keeps things together, etc. etc.

And don't forget that this whole rivalry comes from the fact that Howard had the radio station they were affiliated with at the time basically censor Opie and Anthony. Whatever his reasons, that's a fvcked up move.
 

Red Dawn

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Odds are they'll be merging in the future. Sirius is coming on strong and XM is starting to flounder.

Regarding O&A, they only brought over 35,000 subscribers to XM where as Sirius has gained over 3 mill since Stern joined.
 

Taggart

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Odds are they'll be merging in the future. Sirius is coming on strong and XM is starting to flounder.

Regarding O&A, they only brought over 35,000 subscribers to XM where as Sirius has gained over 3 mill since Stern joined.

I'd put my money on a merger.

 
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