I've been running Vista 64 since release and I have had minimal problems with it. People are blowing everything way out of proportion in this thread. More than likely it is user error causing most of the problems.
Originally posted by: adairusmc
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JAG87
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Roguestar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JAG87
Vista x64 is a hunk of crap. I swear nothing worked in that OS. I have a state of the art machine which has been running flawless for about 7 months now under Windows XP x86.
Then one day I had the magical idea to get 4GB of ram (stupid crap is so cheap now, so I got tempted). So I formatted and installed Vista x64. Installation is awesome, no doubt about it. I just wish Microsoft would put more effort into the actual OS as they put into their installer. Using WHQL nforce drivers and WHQL forceware drivers I got nothing but crashes in all my games. HL2 and its mods crashed to the desktop with HL2 illegal operation errors. BF2 crashed with a memory address could not be read error. I think the only games that ran fine where CS 1.6 and Pro evolution soccer 6.
onto the sound. your smoking weed if you think you can get x-fi to work with vista x64. my microphone input sounded robotic and static. my friends on ventrilo were like WTF is wrong with your mic. then you try to select a different input for recording and it just keeps saying "unavailable" while the microphone keeps saying "working", even though I switched the input. in essence the driver is completely broken.
now im not blaming MS necesserely, because its only partially their fault. most of the fault comes from the drivers. if nvidia and creative would release decent god damn drivers everything would be awesome. But for now stick to XP. If you need to use 4GB of ram (you better have good reasons) get XP x64. its identical to XP x86, everything works perfectly. I have noticed that in XP x64 my MIC still sounds like its cutting up, but a simple restart will fix it. and game performance/stability is identical to XP x86.
my wholeharted suggestion is stay away from vista at least until SP1.</end quote></div>
I guess you're doing it wrong then. Perhaps your memory is defective, given the memory and address errors you're getting? My hardware is pretty new and I was able to get x64 digitally signed drivers for all of it, have no problems in BF2, BF2142, FEAR or HL2 (and Lost Coast & Ep 1). And I still think you're insane for recommending XP-x64; it's a horrible turd of an operating system that MS only squeezed out to appease us when we all had brand new Athlon 64 processors.</end quote></div>
As a matter of fact, if you have to go to 64 but, XP is a far better choice than Vista. XP x64 runs just like XP x86, and as long as you have drivers for all your stuff, it works seamlessly. I am typing this from my XP x64 disk right now, where I have all my games installed and they all work amazing. everything else also works amazing, I have not found one program that has given me problems in XP x64. in Vista x64 instead, everything crashed and gave me problems. I COULDN'T EVEN GET NVIDIA MONITOR TO WORK !!! as soon as I clicked the icon, that stupid little window in vista that tells you that your program has crashed would come up. what a pile of shit that operating system is. id say 2 out of 3 things I installed did not work properly.
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Just because you suck at computers does not mean vista x64 is shit.
Originally posted by: JAG87
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: adairusmc
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JAG87
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Roguestar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JAG87
Vista x64 is a hunk of crap. I swear nothing worked in that OS. I have a state of the art machine which has been running flawless for about 7 months now under Windows XP x86.
Then one day I had the magical idea to get 4GB of ram (stupid crap is so cheap now, so I got tempted). So I formatted and installed Vista x64. Installation is awesome, no doubt about it. I just wish Microsoft would put more effort into the actual OS as they put into their installer. Using WHQL nforce drivers and WHQL forceware drivers I got nothing but crashes in all my games. HL2 and its mods crashed to the desktop with HL2 illegal operation errors. BF2 crashed with a memory address could not be read error. I think the only games that ran fine where CS 1.6 and Pro evolution soccer 6.
onto the sound. your smoking weed if you think you can get x-fi to work with vista x64. my microphone input sounded robotic and static. my friends on ventrilo were like WTF is wrong with your mic. then you try to select a different input for recording and it just keeps saying "unavailable" while the microphone keeps saying "working", even though I switched the input. in essence the driver is completely broken.
now im not blaming MS necesserely, because its only partially their fault. most of the fault comes from the drivers. if nvidia and creative would release decent god damn drivers everything would be awesome. But for now stick to XP. If you need to use 4GB of ram (you better have good reasons) get XP x64. its identical to XP x86, everything works perfectly. I have noticed that in XP x64 my MIC still sounds like its cutting up, but a simple restart will fix it. and game performance/stability is identical to XP x86.
my wholeharted suggestion is stay away from vista at least until SP1.</end quote></div>
I guess you're doing it wrong then. Perhaps your memory is defective, given the memory and address errors you're getting? My hardware is pretty new and I was able to get x64 digitally signed drivers for all of it, have no problems in BF2, BF2142, FEAR or HL2 (and Lost Coast & Ep 1). And I still think you're insane for recommending XP-x64; it's a horrible turd of an operating system that MS only squeezed out to appease us when we all had brand new Athlon 64 processors.</end quote></div>
As a matter of fact, if you have to go to 64 but, XP is a far better choice than Vista. XP x64 runs just like XP x86, and as long as you have drivers for all your stuff, it works seamlessly. I am typing this from my XP x64 disk right now, where I have all my games installed and they all work amazing. everything else also works amazing, I have not found one program that has given me problems in XP x64. in Vista x64 instead, everything crashed and gave me problems. I COULDN'T EVEN GET NVIDIA MONITOR TO WORK !!! as soon as I clicked the icon, that stupid little window in vista that tells you that your program has crashed would come up. what a pile of shit that operating system is. id say 2 out of 3 things I installed did not work properly.
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Just because you suck at computers does not mean vista x64 is shit.</end quote></div>
As a matter of fact mr. smartass, I am a software tester by profession. maybe you want to look up who Cedara Software is, and you may realize that we take stability and reliability of our software a notch up from Microsoft. So if I were you I would keep the insults to myself and keep my mouth shut. you have no idea who you are talking to over the internet, it could be a complete noob or it could be a professional.
If I say Vista x64 is garbage thats how it is, period. Its garbage for many reasons, and the drivers are on top of the list. XP x64 is a golden operating system compared to Vista x64. It has its problems as well, but there is a ratio of 1:100 with Vista x64. Vista in general needs a lot of work. x86 is in a far better position then x64 right now, but its still unacceptable. The gap between x86 and x64 is almost completely gone on XP. But on Vista its huge. like I said, if you want to avoid headaches, stick with XP until SP1 AT LEAST.
In 2 weeks that I spent with Vista I have tested it more than you will ever do in your entire lifetime. Vista is not ready for the high-end / power user market. If you use vista only to check your email and browse through the internet then it works just fine, and even then you will encounter some weird behavior. But then again if thats all you do, why the hell use windows in the first place. Get a mac, or a unix machine.
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XP x64 is a golden operating system compared to Vista x64
Originally posted by: JAG87
thanks for your insight keith, but no my system is perfectly fine. I have been running both XP32 and XP64 for quite some time now and everything works great.
when I used Vista32, I wont lie, it was alright. but the 32 bit memory limitation imposes some problems with vista32. 2.25GB (how much was recognized) is just not enough.
so I tried vista64 and wow. I cant blame the OS itself, I have already stated that. I give most of the fault to the drivers. so bare with me here: vista64 might not be shit for you since you have different hardware than me. but it is for me.
there, I think that explains it.