XP2500+ vs XP2600+

[cyberdad]

Putting OC aside for a moment, I noticed on zipzoomfly.com that I can get an XP2500+ @ 1.83GHz for $90 free shipping. Or I can get an XP 2600+ @ 2.08 GHZ for $105 free shipping. It appears that it would be a good buy for $15 more to get that much more GHz. Am I missing something here? Is there something wrong with the XP 2600+?

 

[edmundoab]

well 2600+ is a good processor,
but the one that has a higher overclocking % from the default speed is the XP2500+
nevertheless paying less and getting good speeds.
that doesn't mean the 2600+ cannot be overclock,

but its a little more expensive compared to the 2500+. I would suggest getting the 2600+ if you intend to use it at stock speeds.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: cyberdad
Putting OC aside for a moment, I noticed on zipzoomfly.com that I can get an XP2500+ @ 1.83GHz for $90 free shipping. Or I can get an XP 2600+ @ 2.08 GHZ for $105 free shipping. It appears that it would be a good buy for $15 more to get that much more GHz. Am I missing something here? Is there something wrong with the XP 2600+?

if you're not going with the 2500+, you should skip right over the older 2600+ & 2700+, and go for the 2800+.

either way, IMO you should stick with the 512K Barton core, rather than the older Thoroughbred with 256K L2 cache.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Personally, if I wasn't planning on OC'ing, I'd get a 2800+. However, based on what I've seen, the 2600+ is a very good OC'er just like the 2500+.

 

[hytek369]

you should overclock, get more for your money =]

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Personally, if I wasn't planning on OC'ing, I'd get a 2800+. However, based on what I've seen, the 2600+ is a very good OC'er just like the 2500+.

the 2500+ is the more efficeint processor tho. while it's clockspeed is 250Mhz slower, it maintains 95-100% (even beating it in a couple test done by anandtech) of the performance of the older and slightly more expensive 2600+. double the L2 cache makes a big difference.

if you were to overclock, at the same clockspeeds, the less expensive 2500+ would be a fair deal faster than the 2600+. seems to me the barton has much better performance potential, at least in theory.

 

[pspada]

It does appear that the 2600+ listed for $106 at zipzoomfry is a retail 2600+ Barton. An excellent chip, I have 2 running at 11.5x200fsb on stock voltage.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Personally, if I wasn't planning on OC'ing, I'd get a 2800+. However, based on what I've seen, the 2600+ is a very good OC'er just like the 2500+.

the 2500+ is the more efficeint processor tho. while it's clockspeed is 250Mhz slower, it maintains 95-100% (even beating it in a couple test done by anandtech) of the performance of the older and slightly more expensive 2600+. double the L2 cache makes a big difference.

if you were to overclock, at the same clockspeeds, the less expensive 2500+ would be a fair deal faster than the 2600+. seems to me the barton has much better performance potential, at least in theory.

Every chip that AMD sells now that is faster than an XP2400 is a Barton, and has 512kb of level 2 cache. And, the 2600 is 100mhz faster, when both chips are ran at 200fsb.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Every chip that AMD sells now that is faster than an XP2400 is a Barton, and has 512kb of level 2 cache. And, the 2600 is 100mhz faster, when both chips are ran at 200fsb.

i stand "somewhat" corrected my original statement as shown was not entirely accurate; to clarify (while i am not entirely sure what amd "sells"), there are actually 2 different xp 2600+ currently available in the market; one based on the t-bred core, and one on the barton:

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2600+
Core: Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.08GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2600+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.9GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Model#: AXDA2600DKV4D
Item#: N82E16819103417

the only 2700+ available on newegg is a t-bred core:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=xp%2C2700%2B

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2700+
Core: Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.17GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM (BAREBONE)

 

[myocardia]

Wow, where do you buy your computer parts, Cai? I haven't seen a T-bred 2600 in quite awhile. I WAS assuming he would be buying one from one of the well-known online vendors, who don't still have T-bred 2600's. Hey, they used to make a T-bred 2600 with a 266 bus!

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Wow, where do you buy your computer parts, Cai? I haven't seen a T-bred 2600 in quite awhile. I WAS assuming he would be buying one from one of the well-known online vendors, who don't still have T-bred 2600's. Hey, they used to make a T-bred 2600 with a 266 bus!

lol.. newegg an "unknown" vendor? now THAT is a strange statement

 

[myocardia]

AMD hasn't sold either a 2600 Thoroughbred, or a 2700 Thoroughbred since sometime around the end of the summer. You are right, though, I thought that newegg was sold out of the 2600 T-bred's, but they aren't. That's because nobody wanted either the 2600 or the 2700 T-bred, because they're already pretty much maxed out. They have very little OCing potential. Cyberdad, don't buy a 2.08ghz 2600, the 2600 that most of us thought you were talking about is the Barton 2600. I wouldnt buy an Athlon XP today, if it wasn't a Barton, unless you're a poor gamer, who doesn't want to overclock.

edit: Remember, with computers, you never want to waste your money on an "old" part, even if it's brand new.

 

[CaiNaM]

well, in all honesty i hadn't realized the 2600 and 2700 had been moved to the barton core.. a few months ago i researched it when building a system for someone, and at that time the 2500, 3000, 3200 were barton core and the 2600, 2700 were t-bred cores. not up on amd as much i suppose as i'd gone back to running intel this last year

 

[pspada]

I suggested that it's the retail Barton 2600+, because that's the one coresponding the price he quoted at newegg.