YAABMT (Why are Black Men always portrayed as criminals)

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused
But another matter is quite alarming. And that is the fact that over 50% of the homicides are committed by black men. The vast majority of those against other blacks. SOMETHING needs to be done.

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!! if we targeted Bigots and Racists instead of other blacks then we could quickly put an end to the racism problem.

Actually, that would only damn your cause... and I suspect you know that.

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused
But another matter is quite alarming. And that is the fact that over 50% of the homicides are committed by black men. The vast majority of those against other blacks. SOMETHING needs to be done.

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!! if we targeted Bigots and Racists instead of other blacks then we could quickly put an end to the racism problem.

Actually, that would only damn your cause... and I suspect you know that.

Actually.. would damn YOUR cause.. hahahahaha...

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Show me unqualified/uneducated blacks getting hired. You can't This is just BS talk as that's not even what AA is all about. Every single black has thier job or college admission because they earned it. More so than a white since they have to overcome prejudice that still exists in this country.

Ever call phone support? We have them all over the place at my job...

 

[Zebo]

The problem as I see it Amused is you and others love to quote the conviction and incarsiration rates of blacks while never considering mitigating cicumstances unless they further your political agenda. Like "it's welfare" "its AA" is what you say...Instead of the system is inherently bias against them in such things as poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of hope, and racism which leads to a higher conviction rate as well as more crime in general in the black community. Poor people commit more crime (at least get arrested and convicted for more). Blacks are poor. natually they will commit more crime.

So what do you want to do fix it? you want to take away all things that have helped to get them out of poverty and think the problems will disappear automagically. How soon we forget the past...What a joke/ No black would be corporate officers today, colin powell would be maybe a sargeant, and you would have about as many black professionals as in the 1960's (almost none) without these measures to drive home equality and opportunity. More hand ups (not hand outs) is what i think needs to be done not less....since middle class blacks ar'nt killing and robbing each other or your stores.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Zebo
The problem as I see it Amused is you and others love to quote the conviction and incarsiration rates of blacks while never considering mitigating cicumstances unless they further your political agenda. Like "it's welfare" "its AA" is what you say...Instead of the system is inherently bias against them in such things as poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of hope, and racism which leads to a higher conviction rate as well as more crime in general in the black community. Poor people commit more crime (at least get arrested and convicted for more). Blacks are poor. natually they will commit more crime.

So what do you want to do fix it? you want to take away all things that have helped to get them out of poverty and think the problems will disappear automagically. How soon we forget the past...What a joke/ No black would be corporate officers today, colin powell would be maybe a sargeant, and you would have about as many black professionals as in the 1960's (almost none) without these measures to drive home equality and opportunity. More hand ups (not hand outs) is what i think needs to be done not less.

Pretty well put. :thumbsup:

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Zebo
Some whites can jump and dance...

BOLD FACED LIES

How about dance then http://www.riverdance.com/

fsckin lol!

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose
ok.. so i lied .. wasn't my last correspondence.. (now you are gonna say all black people are liars).. but anyway...

Stop putting words in others' mouths.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose
According to Schiraldi, some 40 states are developing plans to address disproportionate minority confinement.

Yaaaayyyy!!! Finally affirmative action for Whites!!!

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused
But another matter is quite alarming. And that is the fact that over 50% of the homicides are committed by black men. The vast majority of those against other blacks. SOMETHING needs to be done.

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!! if we targeted Bigots and Racists instead of other blacks then we could quickly put an end to the racism problem.

Actually, that would only damn your cause... and I suspect you know that.

Actually.. would damn YOUR cause.. hahahahaha...

Wow... now you're preaching violence?

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

 

[sisooktom]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: sisooktom
But black kids today obviously aren't taught to value education. This is not the fault of whites.

this is probably the stupidest thing i've read all day.. blacks aren't taught the value of education..
this is just racist drivel....

I suppose calling it racist is easier than providing a logical counter arguement. If they DO value education, then explain to me why comparatively few go to and or graduate college?

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: sisooktom

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: sisooktom
But black kids today obviously aren't taught to value education. This is not the fault of whites.

this is probably the stupidest thing i've read all day.. blacks aren't taught the value of education..
this is just racist drivel....

I suppose calling it racist is easier than providing a logical counter arguement. If they DO value education, then explain to me why comparatively few go to and or graduate college?

First, those that DO go to and graduate college are still backhanded by civilization when they are not seen as an equal part of society. This behaviour is seen and known by Blacks who wish to attain that status...but do you think that it could be a little discouraging??

Has anyone here ever heard of the Good Old Boy network? It is the strongest network which keeps most Blacks out of jobs with high responsibility. Without these leaders, who can the younger generation look up to??

 

[Legendary]

You guys are trying to find absolutes where there are none. Not every person who isn't black hates black people, but some of them do. Not every white person who speaks about the problems in black society is racist. We're not all racist, but some of us are. Not all blacks are drug dealers, but some of them are. The justice system IS flawed because we, as a society, ARE flawed, the causes of which are so numerous that simply blaming "rap music" or the media in general is facile, at best. The black community DOES have problems, but not EVERY community, and not necessarily EVERY problem in one place.
For example - I was in uptown NYC with a black friend of mine (I'm Indian btw, from suburbia, so was he) and he was visiting a friend of his who lives up there - and walking from the subway station to his friend's apartment, I actually heard someone, a black kid about my age (19) call him a "sellout whiteboy". That just shocked me, and made me sad. On the next block though, someone complimented him on his clothes and asked him where he was from and what his father did. This man looked like his was 30 though.
Just experiences I've had - you guys all need to calm down. Personally I don't see Amused views as racist, but none of you three are actually thoroughly reading the others posts and responding accordingly. As luvly would have said - there are too many ad hominem attacks going on here.

 

[imported_Pablo]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: PabloMartinez

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
It's not that anyone persay on here is targeting blacks and accusing them of doing a lot of crime, it is because THEY DO do a lot of crime. JEssie Jackson and all the people in the NAACP and ACLU and what not can scream, "White people just want to get us down" But when people like Bill Cosby and The Police Cheif of Charlestown,NC(a black guy, can't remember his name), speak out and say the reason the population in general think all blacks are criminals is because a larger percentage of blacks commit crimes than other ethnicities. And like said several times here it isn't because anyone is holding them back, it is because many, many young blacks think it is cool and acceptable to behave that way.

I live and work in a city that is 90% black, so many more blacks are gonna be pulled over and arrested because there are more of them than any other race. The reason they think it is racial profiling is because their are more white police officers( this holds true across the nation) than any other ethnicity.

WELL here in NJ there big guy its a bunch of bull. Here on the NJ turnpike, blacks account for only 10-12% of all the drivers. But accounted for over 60% of the stops.

I had to enter back into this discussion... WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? I VOW AN END TO RANDOMLY-PULLED-OUT-OF-ASS STATISTICS!

New Jersey agrees to plan to stop racial profiling by police


December 23, 1999
Web posted at: 4:00 p.m. EST (2100 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Under a deal reached to stave off a lawsuit threatened by the federal government, New Jersey has agreed to new procedures to ensure that its state police do not target minorities when making traffic stops.

The agreement announced on Wednesday between the state and the U.S. Justice Department prohibits state troopers from relying on race, national origin or ethnicity when making traffic stops, except when a suspect has been identified based on those details.


It also requires state troopers to document the race, ethnic origin and gender of all motorists they stop and to obtain written consent before initiating any consensual searches.

"This agreement will establish real safeguards against racially discriminatory stops and searches for motorists who drive on New Jersey's highways," said Bill Lann Lee, acting assistant attorney general for civil rights, in a written statement.

"We are pleased the state has worked together with us to develop such a comprehensive agreement," he said.

The agreement must be approved by a federal court.

Justice Department officials said in April they had found enough evidence of racial discrimination by New Jersey State Police troopers to file a civil rights suit. The 2,700-member force has been accused of targeting minority drivers for traffic stops and discriminating against its own officers.

In the consent decree, New Jersey denied that its state police had engaged in racial profiling or any other discriminatory practice. The police department adopted a formal policy in 1990 prohibiting troopers from considering a person's race except where that "characteristic is directly and specifically related to particular criminal activity."




That is only one article. Search for yourself there little man. There are countless articles on the situation here in NJ concerning black drivers and the state police. As far vowing to stop pulling things out of ass, do you count as one of those things?

Ahh... so there's a lawsuit! Then it must be true! There is no such thing as an unfounded lawsuit.

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

awwwww poor you... i'm so upset that there is a double standard that white people can't make fun of black people without being seen as racist...
it's sucks having power and control over corporations, universities, and government and keeping a glass ceiling over the heads of blacks and minorities and not being able to make fun of them without being called racist...
awwww.... poor you...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

awwwww poor you... i'm so upset that there is a double standard that white people can't make fun of black people without being seen as racist...
it's sucks having power and control over corporations, universities, and government and keeping a glass ceiling over the heads of blacks and minorities and not being able to make fun of them without being called racist...
awwww.... poor you...

Yeah, that's the way to change hearts and minds. :roll:

As long as popular black cuture does everything it can to segregate itself, the black community will never be able to fully intergrate. The funny part is, you are part of that problem.

 

[bleeb]

America loves black people! -- SoulMan (C. Thomas Howell)

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

awwwww poor you... i'm so upset that there is a double standard that white people can't make fun of black people without being seen as racist...
it's sucks having power and control over corporations, universities, and government and keeping a glass ceiling over the heads of blacks and minorities and not being able to make fun of them without being called racist...
awwww.... poor you...

Yeah, that's the way to change hearts and minds. :roll:

As long as popular black cuture does everything it can to segregate itself, the black community will never be able to fully intergrate. The funny part is, you are part of that problem.

yea i know... black people want to segregate.. white people have NOTHING to do with it... :roll:

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

awwwww poor you... i'm so upset that there is a double standard that white people can't make fun of black people without being seen as racist...
it's sucks having power and control over corporations, universities, and government and keeping a glass ceiling over the heads of blacks and minorities and not being able to make fun of them without being called racist...
awwww.... poor you...

Yeah, that's the way to change hearts and minds. :roll:

As long as popular black cuture does everything it can to segregate itself, the black community will never be able to fully intergrate. The funny part is, you are part of that problem.

yea i know... black people want to segregate..

An alarming number of them do both physically and culturally.

white people have NOTHING to do with it... :roll:

With blacks wanting to segregate? No, they do not.

However, if you think I mean that white people never segregate, I never said that. I never even implied it. In fact, white flight in neighborhoods here in the midwest disgusts me.

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: Amused

white people have NOTHING to do with it... :roll:

With blacks wanting to segregate? No, they do not.

Yea.. so we should want to intergrate with those whose who discriminate against us right??? lol.. you are a fool.

Originally posted by: Amused
... neighborhoods here in the midwest ...

nuff said.

 

[neotype]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: JustinSampson


Makes sense to me. There are no drug dealers standing on the corner of my street. Why would there be drug enforcment agents here? There are drug dealers standing on street corners in the prodominatly black ghettos though.

i'm not going to argue with you.. obviously you are gonna have your views which will not change..

if anything this thread goes to show why black men are portrayed as criminals.. because most white people are stuck in their view to pre-judge the black man.

have a good evening everyone.. i heard there is a special a the dry cleaners nationwide on white linens tonight.. hope you make it there in time.

Man don't let these handful of racists dogs here get to you. I have been arguing with these POG for years now. But see thats the beauty of the Internet. See they say things here they won't say in public cause they know they will get their blocks knocked off. Guys like Amused a-hole will say all kinds of stuff here about blacks. He'll make it a point to highlight every short coming, but yet he runs his punk ass to black neighborhoods to make a living to feed his damn family. These boys ain't sh*^. I just laugh at them now. They are just a bunch spineless punks. But there are a lot of other good folks here. Out of the 90,000 or so, don't let the few from the peanut gallery get to you. I can asure you its always the same ones. Just laugh at these jerkoffs.

Hmmm pot... kettle... black.. ring any bells? I thought you were saying something aobut someone else spouting off on the internet who wouldn't do it in public..... wow.

 

[neotype]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: homestarmy

Joking or not... what would you say if I said I was going to go out and kill black people? If you say it it's funny, if I say it I'm a racist or bigot. I'm tired of double standards.

I am offended. Is that even allowed?

awwwww poor you... i'm so upset that there is a double standard that white people can't make fun of black people without being seen as racist...
it's sucks having power and control over corporations, universities, and government and keeping a glass ceiling over the heads of blacks and minorities and not being able to make fun of them without being called racist...
awwww.... poor you...

Awww poor you... all I hear from you is bitching and whining about why everything is someone elses fault, and black are oppressed blah blah blah... If you are one of the few to actually have done something with your life... then congratulations. Maybe instead of crying about all the injustices your "people" have to indure, you can mentor a kid or something, and do something other than just troll around a forum.

 

[neotype]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: classy
Guys like Amused a-hole will say all kinds of stuff here about blacks. He'll make it a point to highlight every short coming,

Someone has to, Classy. Because you and your supposed leaders do everything you can to ignore, and divert attention away from the self destruction rampant in black communities.

If the facts I have presented are wrong, prove me wrong with valid sources.

But you cannot.

All you have left are idle cries of racism and, lately, silly physical threats. It's sad, really.

LOL. You are a damn Nazi. The only sad thing here is you and your "boys". Silly threats? Dude I am just jacking with you. But on serious note, you don't want none, trust me. LOL What facts, the ones you get from sources who are racists pigs like yourself. You got an axe to grind. Did a brother perhaps invade something precious as to why your so hell bent on setting the record straight. Something you wanna tell us?

Wow.. glad to see that the liberally based education systems diversity brainwashing is still working strong. I think the last good role model the black community had was Martin Luther King JR. Of course nothing is about equality anymore now... no no.. just about special rights. Simple fact is that people are going to base their opinions about race on their experiences.. good or bad. And of course, there will always be the ignorant majority that just believe what they were taught... diversity or hate either way. So calling someone a Nazi because they disagree with you is just stupid. Who really cares anyway. Just agree to disagree.

 

[neotype]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: JustinSampson

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Why are Black Men always portrayed as criminals

Because majority of the prison inmates are black.

which is because the majority of the judges and lawyers are white.

there have been studies that show that the average black person gets a much harsher sentence than the average white person for the same crime.

I call BS.

Lets see these fair studies you speak of. Or are these PFMA studies


PFMA: Pulled From My Azz

data
Quote:
The comparison of racial proportions of drug users and drug arrests in the period 1979 to 1998 reveals a markedly higher arrest rate of black drug offenders compared to both whites and to the black proportion of the drug using population (Table 18). The percentage of current drug users who were black and white did not vary significantly in this twenty-year period. Among those arrested on drug charges, however, the percentage of blacks rose markedly, and the percentage of whites decreased correspondingly. For each year, the percentage of black drug arrests was at least double the percentage of blacks among current drug users. Whites, conversely, were under-arrested; that is, they constituted a smaller percent of drug arrests than they did of drug users.

Quote:
The marked racial disparities in drug arrests did not reflect racial differences in violations of drug laws prohibiting possession and sale of illicit drugs. Statistical as well as anecdotal evidence indicate drug possession and drug selling cut across all racial, socio-economic and geographic lines. Yet because drug law enforcement resources have been concentrated in low-income, predominantly minority urban areas, drug offending whites have been disproportionately free from arrest compared to blacks.


BOOOOYAAAAA

That does nothing to confirm "...because the majority of the judges and lawyers are white....there have been studies that show that the average black person gets a much harsher sentence than the average white person for the same crime."

All your study says is that more black's were arrested for drug use (the use/selling of illegal drug's are not the only type of crime last time I checked) because there is more police in "low-income, predominantly minority urban areas", where there is more crime. Makes sense to me.

UMMMMMMM why should there be more DRUG law enforcement in poorer neighbourhoods than richer ones??? that DOESN"t make sense to me.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then you aren't as smart as you think. That one should be obvious.

 

[Kadarin]

I'm not about to read this whole thread, but with regard to racism and "unfair" portrayals of people of various ethnic groups:

Stereotypes. Do. Not. Exist. In. A. Vacuum.

 

[neotype]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose

Originally posted by: Amused
But another matter is quite alarming. And that is the fact that over 50% of the homicides are committed by black men. The vast majority of those against other blacks. SOMETHING needs to be done.

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!! if we targeted Bigots and Racists instead of other blacks then we could quickly put an end to the racism problem.

I don't imagine that would include black racists would it... or are black not prone to racsim either. But I suppose its ok for them to be... what with all the oppression and injustice being perpetrated on them.

How about I just break it down like this. I personally think you are an ass. I don't know if you are black or white, or whatever.. I don't even care. I have no respect for anyone, of any race, that takes no responsibility for their own actions. I tend to judge people on a case by case basis, regardless of race. Personally, I doubt that a good respectable person like Bill Cosby would have to get up in front of his own people and say what he has said if anything YOU have said is true. As a matter of fact, I think that one of the main things he was trying to say is that blacks need to quit blaming other people for their problems, and start taking care of business at home and in their own neighborhoods. THAT is a good black role model. And if there were more like him, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.