YACT: Help needed!! Honda Accord 98-200 Auto Transmission Problems...

[kitkit201]

Hey there everyone,

I was searching on the web, but I couldn't find a site with a lot of information.. the problem is that my Honda Accord 2000 SE is having transmission problems. When I start up the car and put it on D to drive, first my accelerator feels hard and i have to press my foot all the way down to get it unstuck. During the same time, my RPM, goes from 2 to 3 and quickly to 4 and almost 5k rpm and then jerks roughly until the second gear. I stop and repeat the test and it happens again. After 5 mins of driving straight (not going on the 1st and 2nd gear) it sort of returns to normal, but the auto trans is still rough during the first and second gear shifts...

My question on here ATOT friends is... did anyone else experience this problem and if so, what did they find out from it? I know that Honda "extended" their transmission warranty to 7 years/ 100k miles, but are they even honoring it? I will never buy another Honda again!

My brother got a Scion and it kicks @ss!!

Thanks in Advance!

 

[TechnoKid]

Do you have the V6 engine? If not then you don't have the "exteneded" warranty.

I suggest you get the fluid replaced in the transmission. It is Honda ATF Z1. If you are mechanically inclined, do it yourself; it just like changin oil.

Its late here, so i will posts updates later.

 

[kitkit201]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Do you have the V6 engine? If not then you don't have the "exteneded" warranty.

I suggest you get the fluid replaced in the transmission. It is Honda ATF Z1. If you are mechanically inclined, do it yourself; it just like changin oil.

Its late here, so i will posts updates later.

Are you sure it was just for the V6 transmission? I thought it was for all Auto transmissions from 98-2001? I got to find the recall thing

 

[OS]

link 1

link 2

owners.honda.com probably has final say

 

[kitkit201]

Taken from Vtec.net:

American Honda Extends Warranties on Select Automatic Transmissions

Torrance, CA 09/20/2002 -- American Honda Motor Co., Inc. announced today it will provide extended warranties on approximately 1.2 million Honda and Acura models equipped with automatic transmissions due to problems that may result in premature wear or failure. The extended warranty will cover affected transmissions for seven years or 100,000 miles.

The standard bumper-to-bumper warranty for Honda vehicles is three years or 36,000 miles, while Acura vehicles are covered for four years or 50,000 miles.

Vehicles covered by the extended warranty include:

2000 - 2001 Honda Accord, Odyssey and Prelude
2000 - 2002 and some 2003 Acura 3.2 TL
2001 - 2002 and some 2003 Acura 3.2 CL

While only two percent of these vehicles have experienced these transmission problems, American Honda will provide extended transmission warranties on all potentially affected vehicles. "Our priorities are making sure our customers are taken care of and reassured they can continue to depend on their Honda or Acura automobile for a long time to come," said Tom Elliott, executive vice president for American Honda.

There is usually plenty of warning to the driver that the transmission is not operating properly, such as slow or erratic shifting, giving them ample time to take the vehicle in for service.

American Honda will notify all owners of eligible vehicles via mail in the coming weeks.

So, had anoyone else experience this problem before? I took the car to the dealership earlier this month and they checked it out, but they charged me the $105 diagnostic fee because it WASN"T Transmission related! WTH!! Can I somehow argue that, or should I go to another dealer and get a second opinion?

The sad thing was that the dealership I went to won the PRESTIGOUS "PRESIDENTS" award, some high honor... that is just bs!!

There is a petition here for auto transmission problems: http://www.petitiononline.com/acura/petition.html

 

[selene]

ur best bet is v6performance.net/forums

But it looks like you maybe screwed on the warranty.. I know I am.. 99 v6 accord

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: kitkit201

So, had anoyone else experience this problem before? I took the car to the dealership earlier this month and they checked it out, but they charged me the $105 diagnostic fee because it WASN"T Transmission related! WTH!! Can I somehow argue that, or should I go to another dealer and get a second opinion?

The sad thing was that the dealership I went to won the PRESTIGOUS "PRESIDENTS" award, some high honor... that is just bs!!

There is a petition here for auto transmission problems: http://www.petitiononline.com/acura/petition.html

what did they say was the problem then?

 

[kitkit201]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: kitkit201

So, had anoyone else experience this problem before? I took the car to the dealership earlier this month and they checked it out, but they charged me the $105 diagnostic fee because it WASN"T Transmission related! WTH!! Can I somehow argue that, or should I go to another dealer and get a second opinion?

The sad thing was that the dealership I went to won the PRESTIGOUS "PRESIDENTS" award, some high honor... that is just bs!!

There is a petition here for auto transmission problems: http://www.petitiononline.com/acura/petition.html

what did they say was the problem then?

Off the top of my head, something to do with the fuel discs rubbing together.. im not sure, but I'll have to check my receipt tomorrow morning.. does that even sound feasible that jerks can be caused by discs rubbing?

 

[kitkit201]

Originally posted by: selene
ur best bet is v6performance.net/forums

But it looks like you maybe screwed on the warranty.. I know I am.. 99 v6 accord

why are we both screwed dude?

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: kitkit201

Off the top of my head, something to do with the fuel discs rubbing together.. im not sure, but I'll have to check my receipt tomorrow morning.. does that even sound feasible that jerks can be caused by discs rubbing?

I have no clue what you mean, look it up again. I am just a casual car guy though. The tranny problem doesn't typically affect 4 cylinder models though.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: kitkit201

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: kitkit201

So, had anoyone else experience this problem before? I took the car to the dealership earlier this month and they checked it out, but they charged me the $105 diagnostic fee because it WASN"T Transmission related! WTH!! Can I somehow argue that, or should I go to another dealer and get a second opinion?

The sad thing was that the dealership I went to won the PRESTIGOUS "PRESIDENTS" award, some high honor... that is just bs!!

There is a petition here for auto transmission problems: http://www.petitiononline.com/acura/petition.html

what did they say was the problem then?

Off the top of my head, something to do with the fuel discs rubbing together.. im not sure, but I'll have to check my receipt tomorrow morning.. does that even sound feasible that jerks can be caused by discs rubbing?

"Fuel discs" in regards to an automatic transmission makes no sense.

Every auto manufacturer is prone to producing some bad parts now and then. Even Toyota.

 

[Quixfire]

I'm assuming you have checked you transmission fluid level. I don't know what a "fuel disk" but you problem can be related to other engine management systems like but not limited to throttle position sensor, fuel system performance, vehicle speed sensors, and any other sensor that would tell the transmission to engage the forward drive gears.

 

[TechnoKid]

Firsts things first. Do what Quix said; check your transmission fluid level. If it is fine, then you can rule the level out. Now, what is the color of the fluid? Has it ever been serviced? Does it smell burnt at all? How many miles are on the fluid if you know?

I suggest changing the fluid yourself. Go to your honda dealer and buy 3 quarts of ATF Z1. If they try and charge you an insanely high price of $6 a quart (some do, msrp is actually like $3.99), tell em that the honda dealer the next town over sells it for $3.75, or ask if they offer case pricing. If you can wait, order it online from: Hparts.com part number 08200-9001 (its $3.41 from here). You'll need 3 quarts for a drain and refill on the accord. You don't really need a new drain plug gasket, although it is advisible. The trannies on hondas don't have a user serviceable filter, short of taking apart the whole transmission.

What you do is jack up the passangers side, or both sides if you want it more level from side to side. Ramps may make this easier. Then look behind the passanger wheel at the transmission. You will see what appears to be a drain bolt with a square socket--that socket is just the 3/8" drive on the socket wrnech itself. That is the drain bolt for the tranny. Take that off, let the old stuff drain, and put it back on, with say about 25 ft.lbs or tight enough. Make sure you either reuse the gasket or put a new one on. Don't over tighten the drain bolt.

You can fill the transmission from the dipstick hole using a long flexible funnel. You can double check how much to put in by measuring exactly how much old stuff came out, assuming the level was right to begin with. Or you can check the owners manual under the fluid capcity chart.

Start up the car and let the fluid warm then check the level again and check the drain bolt to make sure it isn't leaking.

If this helps the problem, then hey, its better than a rebuild or new tranny.

 

[HiTek21]

A friend of mine had his Accord EX V6 Transmission crap out on him. He just took it in to the dealership and they fixed it under warranty. I'm not sure if its the same problem as yours but his D light was blinking.

 

[sillymofo]

First of all, Honda NEVER made any SE.

Second, it's your torque converter, a well know problem with Accord transmissions, I have two that falls in the same generation. Replaced one.

 

[kitkit201]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
First of all, Honda NEVER made any SE.

Second, it's your torque converter, a well know problem with Accord transmissions, I have two that falls in the same generation. Replaced one.

You never heard of a Special Edition Accord before? Honda usually brings it out when they are about to change the model, examples are Accord 2000 SE and 2002 SE (both were introduced on the last year that the particular model was introduced). Hence the similiarites between the two cars inside, but cosmetic changes outside...

And was it covered under warranty? What years and model? V6?

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: kitkit201

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo First of all, Honda NEVER made any SE. Second, it's your torque converter, a well know problem with Accord transmissions, I have two that falls in the same generation. Replaced one.

You never heard of a Special Edition Accord before? Honda usually brings it out when they are about to change the model, examples are Accord 2000 SE and 2002 SE (both were introduced on the last year that the particular model was introduced). Hence the similiarites between the two cars inside, but cosmetic changes outside... And was it covered under warranty? What years and model? V6?

Yes, I've heard of the "Special Edition", aka sucker edition, but never refered to it as SE.

Oh... a 98 LX V-6 (sold) and a '99 EX V-6 coupe (replaced torque converter, driven by me, daily)

 

[Lyfer]

You should have gotten a Hyundai, freedom of americas best warranty, 10 years, woot!

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
First of all, Honda NEVER made any SE.

Second, it's your torque converter, a well know problem with Accord transmissions, I have two that falls in the same generation. Replaced one.

uh. you're wrong on the first count. SE stands for special edition. they were basically LX's with a different set of alloy wheels and some of the EX trim stuff, but no moonroof. they have introduced SE models for several of the 90's+ Accord generations, if not all of them.

 

[kitkit201]

some SE do h ave moon roofs.. like the 2002 one