Fun car, but I'd have to buy a couple classic cars before I buy a Lotus. First one would be a 65 Corvette.
Originally posted by: RedArmy
1991 CRX HF with a B16 with ITR cams, headers, exhaust,AEM CAI, red line bumped to 9000, fidanza 7.5lb flywheel, Stg 2. clutch, Tein coils, KYB struts etc etc.
I actually just finished getting the car running. I <3 it
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Ya, I'm trying to get my dad to get one too, it's basically getting a supercar for 50 grand or so. Oh , there is a nonlegal package for $40,000 that shaves down the weight to ummm, i don't remember,..... AND get this, it takes it from 190 hp to 310 hp......... 0-60 in 3.0....... That is faster than a McLaren F1, btw. *shivers*, i want one soooo bad.
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Ya, I'm trying to get my dad to get one too, it's basically getting a supercar for 50 grand or so. Oh , there is a nonlegal package for $40,000 that shaves down the weight to ummm, i don't remember,..... AND get this, it takes it from 190 hp to 310 hp......... 0-60 in 3.0....... That is faster than a McLaren F1, btw. *shivers*, i want one soooo bad.
Link or something?
You can feel everything. Every bump, crack, and pebble in the road is transmitted, unfiltered, straight to you. Your hands are constantly chattering with the steering wheel. Your ass is constantly chattering with the seats. That said, the ride was not anywhere near as brutal as I would have expected. In fact, it was quite comfortable. I'm well aware that I'm willing to accept a lot more ride stiffness than the average guy but I was still surprised. The car sadly didn't have the sport suspension which would indeed make the ride much more aggressive. The standard setup's rebound is about half as fast as its compression rate. In the sport setup they're equal. And the wheels are each about 7lb lighter. The ride and handling of that setup must be unbelievably tight. Gonna have to try that out.
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
You can feel everything. Every bump, crack, and pebble in the road is transmitted, unfiltered, straight to you. Your hands are constantly chattering with the steering wheel. Your ass is constantly chattering with the seats. That said, the ride was not anywhere near as brutal as I would have expected. In fact, it was quite comfortable. I'm well aware that I'm willing to accept a lot more ride stiffness than the average guy but I was still surprised. The car sadly didn't have the sport suspension which would indeed make the ride much more aggressive. The standard setup's rebound is about half as fast as its compression rate. In the sport setup they're equal. And the wheels are each about 7lb lighter. The ride and handling of that setup must be unbelievably tight. Gonna have to try that out.
Uh, that doesn't sound like much fun. For the price I'd pay a bit more and get an RS4.
A ring just under the shift know, which you must pull up for shifting into reverse, is found on (at least some) Volvos and Renaults.Getting to reverse requires pulling up on a small tab below the shift knob. It's exactly like Opel's system if you're familiar with that. I haven't seen that system on any other cars.
Originally posted by: raptor13
Originally posted by: mcvickj
They let you test drive something like that without showing any signs of purchase?
I do have an intention of buying. It probably won't be right away but I'm definitely in the market. I've also driven the new BMW M Coupe. I've looked at M3s as well as older Porsches. My next car will definitely err on the ridiculously impractical side of things. The Lotus is currently my top choice.
See, my current car has two major problems: A trunk and a useable backseat.
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
I believe the z06 is superior in a straight line, as are most american cars, but the Elise handles like it's on rails, and actually uses downforce/aerodynamics highly (check the underneath of the car, it's beautifully flat). The z06 is much more a muscle car, designed to go straight very fast, and drift around corners with the aid of yet more muscle, ie more of a drift.
I'd imagine the Z06 to piss all over the elise on the straight or on fast tracks like Laguna Seca, but on tight, curvy tracks my money would be on the lotus.
Personally I'd go for the lotus too, although I have heard great things about the Z06 (for it's price).
Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Ya, I'm trying to get my dad to get one too, it's basically getting a supercar for 50 grand or so. Oh , there is a nonlegal package for $40,000 that shaves down the weight to ummm, i don't remember,..... AND get this, it takes it from 190 hp to 310 hp......... 0-60 in 3.0....... That is faster than a McLaren F1, btw. *shivers*, i want one soooo bad.
Link or something?
BAM!
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Ya, I'm trying to get my dad to get one too, it's basically getting a supercar for 50 grand or so. Oh , there is a nonlegal package for $40,000 that shaves down the weight to ummm, i don't remember,..... AND get this, it takes it from 190 hp to 310 hp......... 0-60 in 3.0....... That is faster than a McLaren F1, btw. *shivers*, i want one soooo bad.
Link or something?
BAM!
I'll try to find a link, it was in Road and Track, and I don't have the issue any more.
Also, for the OP, my dad talked to some guys at a dealership that sell competing cars, and they said that the Elise was meant for the track, not the road. They say you have to replace the tires every 4,000 miles, or every oil change. Is that true? And even if it is, do you know if there are after market tires that give better mileage, or is there really just that much torque? Might wanna check on that, it adds to the long term cost of the car a whole lot.
Originally posted by: randomlinh
yes, rcomps are stanardard on the elise at least, I think they are standard.. every one i've seen has them. you could just replace them with UHP summer tires... squeeze a few thousand more miles, and less on tires. and you'll regain a little wet traction
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Ya, I'm trying to get my dad to get one too, it's basically getting a supercar for 50 grand or so. Oh , there is a nonlegal package for $40,000 that shaves down the weight to ummm, i don't remember,..... AND get this, it takes it from 190 hp to 310 hp......... 0-60 in 3.0....... That is faster than a McLaren F1, btw. *shivers*, i want one soooo bad.
Link or something?
BAM!
I'll try to find a link, it was in Road and Track, and I don't have the issue any more.
Also, for the OP, my dad talked to some guys at a dealership that sell competing cars, and they said that the Elise was meant for the track, not the road. They say you have to replace the tires every 4,000 miles, or every oil change. Is that true? And even if it is, do you know if there are after market tires that give better mileage, or is there really just that much torque? Might wanna check on that, it adds to the long term cost of the car a whole lot.
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
I believe the z06 is superior in a straight line, as are most american cars, but the Elise handles like it's on rails, and actually uses downforce/aerodynamics highly (check the underneath of the car, it's beautifully flat). The z06 is much more a muscle car, designed to go straight very fast, and drift around corners with the aid of yet more muscle, ie more of a drift.
I'd imagine the Z06 to piss all over the elise on the straight or on fast tracks like Laguna Seca, but on tight, curvy tracks my money would be on the lotus.
Personally I'd go for the lotus too, although I have heard great things about the Z06 (for it's price).
The Z06 would destroy the Elise on the vast majority of tracks, even tight technical tracks. Heck, the Z06 is even competitive on autox courses.
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
I believe the z06 is superior in a straight line, as are most american cars, but the Elise handles like it's on rails, and actually uses downforce/aerodynamics highly (check the underneath of the car, it's beautifully flat). The z06 is much more a muscle car, designed to go straight very fast, and drift around corners with the aid of yet more muscle, ie more of a drift.
I'd imagine the Z06 to piss all over the elise on the straight or on fast tracks like Laguna Seca, but on tight, curvy tracks my money would be on the lotus.
Personally I'd go for the lotus too, although I have heard great things about the Z06 (for it's price).
The Z06 would destroy the Elise on the vast majority of tracks, even tight technical tracks. Heck, the Z06 is even competitive on autox courses.
I wouldn't be so quick to say so, as it depends on the driver. The Z06 to quote John Phillips "Drives like a date-raped ape" meaning it is very uncontrolable around the track unless you know exactly what you are doing, and then you can get better times. The Elise probably has much better handling and might even get better times. Without a comparo it would be hard to know.
If the Z06 was compared to the ~60k Lotus Exige Sport or Cup it would be absolutely no contest, as they were made for the track.
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
I believe the z06 is superior in a straight line, as are most american cars, but the Elise handles like it's on rails, and actually uses downforce/aerodynamics highly (check the underneath of the car, it's beautifully flat). The z06 is much more a muscle car, designed to go straight very fast, and drift around corners with the aid of yet more muscle, ie more of a drift.
I'd imagine the Z06 to piss all over the elise on the straight or on fast tracks like Laguna Seca, but on tight, curvy tracks my money would be on the lotus.
Personally I'd go for the lotus too, although I have heard great things about the Z06 (for it's price).
The Z06 would destroy the Elise on the vast majority of tracks, even tight technical tracks. Heck, the Z06 is even competitive on autox courses.
I wouldn't be so quick to say so, as it depends on the driver. The Z06 to quote John Phillips "Drives like a date-raped ape" meaning it is very uncontrolable around the track unless you know exactly what you are doing, and then you can get better times. The Elise probably has much better handling and might even get better times. Without a comparo it would be hard to know.
If the Z06 was compared to the ~60k Lotus Exige Sport or Cup it would be absolutely no contest, as they were made for the track.
The Z06 is difficult in that it can be a bit vague. However, the Elise is no picnic to drive fast either. You ever drive a car with 61% of its weight over its rear wheels and an extremely small polar moment? It takes a great driver to really get the most out of it.
The problem with the Elise is very similar to the Exige Sport, Cup, etc. It has very poor aerodynamics (though great frontal area) and reasonably low power. Because of this, the 80-120mph is relatively slow. If you take a look at most tracks, you spend a lot of time in this region.
With the Lotus, the name of the game is carrying speed.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heared it's cheaper than the Z06 and can whup it on the track.
The Elise is a freaking AWESOME car, especially for the price. The Exige even moreso.
I would find that hard to believe with the new Z06, but I'd still rather have the Elise.
I believe the z06 is superior in a straight line, as are most american cars, but the Elise handles like it's on rails, and actually uses downforce/aerodynamics highly (check the underneath of the car, it's beautifully flat). The z06 is much more a muscle car, designed to go straight very fast, and drift around corners with the aid of yet more muscle, ie more of a drift.
I'd imagine the Z06 to piss all over the elise on the straight or on fast tracks like Laguna Seca, but on tight, curvy tracks my money would be on the lotus.
Personally I'd go for the lotus too, although I have heard great things about the Z06 (for it's price).
The Z06 would destroy the Elise on the vast majority of tracks, even tight technical tracks. Heck, the Z06 is even competitive on autox courses.
I wouldn't be so quick to say so, as it depends on the driver. The Z06 to quote John Phillips "Drives like a date-raped ape" meaning it is very uncontrolable around the track unless you know exactly what you are doing, and then you can get better times. The Elise probably has much better handling and might even get better times. Without a comparo it would be hard to know.
If the Z06 was compared to the ~60k Lotus Exige Sport or Cup it would be absolutely no contest, as they were made for the track.
The Z06 is difficult in that it can be a bit vague. However, the Elise is no picnic to drive fast either. You ever drive a car with 61% of its weight over its rear wheels and an extremely small polar moment? It takes a great driver to really get the most out of it.
The problem with the Elise is very similar to the Exige Sport, Cup, etc. It has very poor aerodynamics (though great frontal area) and reasonably low power. Because of this, the 80-120mph is relatively slow. If you take a look at most tracks, you spend a lot of time in this region.
With the Lotus, the name of the game is carrying speed.
so um...
Would you rather take a Noble, or an Elise or a Z06, in a rolling start around Road America?
i dunno why i picked a Noble, just felt like throwing in a random car