YACT: The Cost of Supercars

[jagec]

Yeah, you can talk about how much more components cost on supercars because of exotic materials, hours of engineering, and the additional stress they'll support, but ultimately, the most expensive "component" is that Ferrari nameplate

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/abrams/specs.html

Needs another 500HP.

HP means nothing, it's all about the torque.

That's funny, because I could've sworn my stock 4 cylinder car was able to outperform a new F-150.....but I sure as hell couldn't pull a boat.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

Dude you're on Crack the LS7 in the Z06 is hand built and will out last any engine Ferrari throws at it. It's not your run of the mill V8.

 

[Gillbot]

And the LS1/2/6/7 were designed for the CORVETTE first, then moved into other platforms. The corvette was NOT a toss together of existing parts in GM's inventory.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

GM transmissions are SO crappy, that Jaguar and BMW used them. (google 5L30e)

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

True.

As someone that has worked on both Corvettes and Ferraris, I can say the Corvette has always had a better engine. Less maintaince and last longer.

I could have gotten a older Ferrari if I wanted but at the end of the day I know I will be the one buying parts and having to repair it. So with that said, when I look in the garage, I see a Pewter Corvette.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

Really, stop posting to avoid injuring your brain any further.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

True.

As someone that has worked on both Corvettes and Ferraris, I can say the Corvette has always had a better engine. Less maintaince and last longer.

I could have gotten a older Ferrari if I wanted but at the end of the day I know I will be the one buying parts and having to repair it. So with that said, when I look in the garage, I see a Pewter Corvette.

Can you get 9K RPM out of a Corvette engine?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: feelingshorter
bugatti....two 8 cylinder engines to make a dual 16 cylinder car. Hella fast and and costs 840k pounds. 1001 HP. Heck that thing has more HP than an Abrams tank.

Rich people that can afford to buy expensive fast toys will. If you were rich then it wouldnt matter. Theres no need to justify anything.

wrong - an abrams uses a 1500 HP turbine engine

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

Really, stop posting to avoid injuring your brain any further.

prove me wrong that the Z06 (sorry i forgot those 3 letters) will not outhandle most any Ferrari

the LS7's redline is like 8k or something i forget.

 

[razor2025]

Large part of the pricetag is on the marketing. Supercars are status symbols. Supercars are horrible at price/performance ratio. Rich people buy them because that's one way to flaunt their wealth. All the "tweak" and rocket engines are pretty much superficial benefit when it surpass the common use. You can slap on Supercar brand on a plain car and still be able to charge it obscene price, because rich people will buy to show it off, "Looky! It's a Ferrari." It'same principle with Gucci bags. A simple Gucci logo on plain looking bag adds hundreds on its price tag.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

Really, stop posting to avoid injuring your brain any further.

you realize, that this is in fact correct? IIRC, the Z06 has one of the best times on the nurburgring track. for 65k, you get supercar performance. and imagine what mods you can do with another $300k+

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the LS6/LS2 is an inferior engine???? what the HELL are you smoking?

have you ever sat in the new Vette? i have, i havent played with it like i did the tahoe, but its an extreme improvement. its not the best stuff ive ever seen, but its a nice interior. there is such a thing as interior technology??? and yet again, there isnt much shared on the interior of the vette that is in other GM vehicles (not sure on radio, i dont remember it much).

all you have and all you ever will be is a poster of misinformation.

The LS6/LS2 is inferior to the Ferrari in terms of quality. Don't judge it solely by performance.

Yes I have sat in a new Corvette, they are just a mash up of different crap GM parts.

When I speak of interior technology I'm speak of transmission options, electronics (Navigation, stereo, etc).

The leather in the Corvette is cheap compared to a Ferrari.

Have you ever sat in a new Ferrari? There is a "feel" about everything in it that screams quality. You can knock on some things in a Corvette and they feel hollow and plastic. Nothing like that in a Ferrari.

a supercar is NOT about its interior quality, a supercar should be a trackcar, i know you can argue that the only reason the Ferrari is a Ferrari is because its interior is top notch etc.

i never said the Corvette which costs 48K base, should have an interior comparable to a vehicle that costs 220K base (yea, fair comparison) The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

i would like to know why you say the LS2/LS6 engines are worse than the Ferraris which require more maintnence than a prostitute, and are much much less reliable than the bullet proof GM small blocks.

True.

As someone that has worked on both Corvettes and Ferraris, I can say the Corvette has always had a better engine. Less maintaince and last longer.

I could have gotten a older Ferrari if I wanted but at the end of the day I know I will be the one buying parts and having to repair it. So with that said, when I look in the garage, I see a Pewter Corvette.

Can you get 9K RPM out of a Corvette engine?

Yes. A modified LT5 can do that easy. I have not seen it first hand but have read about the cam profiles and adjustments needed.

That and the LS1/2/etc.. do not NEED 9k RPM to make power. they make it right off the line.

 

[OOBradm]

why is the top of the line ANYTHING way overpriced? because the people that are willing to spend that much money for a car dont really CARE how much it costs, they're going to shell out the big bucks anyways. so the car companies can jack the prices sky high and still sell the same amount.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Three factors come into play.

1. The cost of sales. With high end cars you get top notch service. Ever been to a Ferrari dealer? It's nicer than your house. Nothing like a typical dealer.

Does that mean if I go into a Ferrari dealer to buy a Ferrari, they would order a pizza for me if I wanted one?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
prove me wrong that the Z06 (sorry i forgot those 3 letters) will not outhandle most any Ferrari

the LS7's redline is like 8k or something i forget.

Z06 beats an Enzo? Ahahahaha. You should be a comedian.

And don't get me started on the FXX.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
prove me wrong that the Z06 (sorry i forgot those 3 letters) will not outhandle most any Ferrari

the LS7's redline is like 8k or something i forget.

Z06 beats an Enzo? Ahahahaha. You should be a comedian.

And don't get me started on the FXX.

reading was not your strong point ever was it.

i wont even point it out, please re read my statment.

damn you are one hell of a moron

 

[freebee]

Ordinary car companies don't make supercars because they are unprofitable. Look at Ferrari's net profits. They don't make any money.

Most supercar companies in the recent years have been acquired by "ordinary" car companies. Ferrari, Lambo, Astons, Bugatti, etc. are no longer independant.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Does that mean if I go into a Ferrari dealer to buy a Ferrari, they would order a pizza for me if I wanted one?

They offer free drinks at most Lexus dealers.

At many Ferrari dealers they do offer food and other frills.

And yes if you bought a Ferrari they would order you a pizza.

If you wrote out the check and asked them to physically pick you up and carry you to your new Ferrari they probably would.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
reading was not your strong point ever was it.

i wont even point it out, please re read my statment.

damn you are one hell of a moron

The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

And writing obviously isn't your strong point.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
reading was not your strong point ever was it.

i wont even point it out, please re read my statment.

damn you are one hell of a moron

The corvette beats almost every single Ferrari in terms of sheer power, speed, and track ability.

And writing obviously isn't your strong point.

you want it in bold?

here

so yea, now go have fun

 

[freebee]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Does that mean if I go into a Ferrari dealer to buy a Ferrari, they would order a pizza for me if I wanted one?

They offer free drinks at most Lexus dealers.

At many Ferrari dealers they do offer food and other frills.

And yes if you bought a Ferrari they would order you a pizza.

If you wrote out the check and asked them to physically pick you up and carry you to your new Ferrari they probably would.

So how is that good Ferrari service? If you walked into a Toyota dealership and gave them a 20k comission, in addition to food and frills, you'd probably get a piggyback ride and a blow job.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: freebee

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Does that mean if I go into a Ferrari dealer to buy a Ferrari, they would order a pizza for me if I wanted one?

They offer free drinks at most Lexus dealers.

At many Ferrari dealers they do offer food and other frills.

And yes if you bought a Ferrari they would order you a pizza.

If you wrote out the check and asked them to physically pick you up and carry you to your new Ferrari they probably would.

So how is that good Ferrari service? If you walked into a Toyota dealership and gave them a 20k comission, in addition to food and frills, you'd probably get a piggyback ride and a blow job.

at the chevy dealer i go to, they have a lounge with Coffee, hot chocolate etc, and any free pop you want.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: freebee
So how is that good Ferrari service? If you walked into a Toyota dealership and gave them a 20k comission, in addition to food and frills, you'd probably get a piggyback ride and a blow job.

You have to have been in a exotic car dealership to understand the quality of service. Obviously you have not.