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HomerJS

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Driving a truck in rural Ohio…while black.

Now, admittedly I’m no expert on US DOT rules. But I fail to understand why a truck missing a left rear mud flap needs to be pulled over. Isn’t this something that can be addressed at a weigh station or assessed as a fine without stopping the vehicle??

That said, clearly the driver is at fault for failing to pull over initially and escalating the situation. That said, the driver dialed 911 himself so something about the cops’ behavior may have spooked him. All conjecture until we get the full story.

Whatever the case, there’s absolutely no excuse for the podunk local PD to release the hound and give orders conflicting with Highway Patrol who had jurisdiction and repeatedly warned the officer not to release the dog.

Now if you take offense to my smarmy dismissal of Circleville as a podunk town—that’s exactly what it is. I drive through there on 23 at least twice a year when I drive up to Columbus to see family—and Circleville is one of those towns where you do not exceed the speed limit 1mph or else you risk a speed trap ticket.
That's what we do in a small town. Meanwhile cursing out cops and beating them with American flags is cool. As long as the perps are white.
 

APU_Fusion

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That's what we do in a small town. Meanwhile cursing out cops and beating them with American flags is cool. As long as the perps are white.
I was just coming to post this story. aint no racists round here cause we sick dogs on any them there darkies we see. Sorry, it is exhausting watching the filthy hatred and entitlement. A god damn mud flap? all This over a mud flap? i would have said that can’t be true earlier in my life but now I am Woke to the evil
 
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Lanyap

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I was just coming to post this story. aint no racists round here cause we sick dogs on any them there darkies we see. Sorry, it is exhausting watching the filthy hatred and entitlement. A god damn mud flap? all This over a mud flap? i would have said that can’t be true earlier in my life but now I am Woke to the evil



There must have been 20+ cops chasing this trucker for a missing mud flap.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Holy crap. At least I hope that trucker get rich suing the PD.
The fact that the dog took a detour… The dog had no fcking idea who it was supposed to attack.
And all those other cops just looking on, knew exactly what was about to go down.
 

esquared

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Didnt think such characters existed other than redneck movies.




WTF???

The D.A. for that area backed up the non-uniformed sheriff is saying he (the sheriff) removed
two criminals from the street and hopefully prevented further crime
(selling pine straw door-to-door).
 

Lanyap

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Dec 23, 2000
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Fishing in your neighborhood lake while black.
Karen gets fired.





Update on fishing while black. Just confirms it's only the old racist white people who are concerned about a black man fishing in the neighborhood lake.

Two other white men fishing nearby told Gibson that they had been fishing at the pond for seven years and had never been questioned, even though they didn’t live in the community. Since then, Gibson started capturing all incidents on camera.

According to the Springwater Plantation’s homeowners association, fishing with a permit is allowed at the private community’s lake. Gibson frequently fishes for food and said he has a permit to fish in the state of Georgia.

“Literally every single time I went fishing, someone bothered me,” Gibson said, adding that young white community members, and other Black residents, usually leave him alone. “That’s the only reason why I turned the camera on.”

 
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HomerJS

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Update on fishing while black. Just confirms it's only the old racist white people who are concerned about a black man fishing in the neighborhood lake.



Clearly that fisherman is at least equally responsible for the racism heaped upon him.
 
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FirNaTine

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Driving a truck in rural Ohio…while black.

Now, admittedly I’m no expert on US DOT rules. But I fail to understand why a truck missing a left rear mud flap needs to be pulled over. Isn’t this something that can be addressed at a weigh station or assessed as a fine without stopping the vehicle??

That said, clearly the driver is at fault for failing to pull over initially and escalating the situation. That said, the driver dialed 911 himself so something about the cops’ behavior may have spooked him. All conjecture until we get the full story.

Whatever the case, there’s absolutely no excuse for the podunk local PD to release the hound and give orders conflicting with Highway Patrol who had jurisdiction and repeatedly warned the officer not to release the dog.

Now if you take offense to my smarmy dismissal of Circleville as a podunk town—that’s exactly what it is. I drive through there on 23 at least twice a year when I drive up to Columbus to see family—and Circleville is one of those towns where you do not exceed the speed limit 1mph or else you risk a speed trap ticket.
A missing flap lets it throw rocks at other vehicles potentially causing damage and distraction. A common way of losing them is backing over a decent sized fixed object, as the direction of tire travel pulls the mudflap down/off its mounting bracket, so that alone may indicate a recent lapse in judgement from an unlicensed/impaired/over hours driver.

It can also be indicative of a driver not maintaining/inspecting their vehicles. Things like tire pressure, tread depth, brake adjustment are harder or impossible to see while a vehicle is moving, but can lead to loss of control and accidents.

Drivers of large commercial vehicles are (and should be) subject to high levels of scrutiny as their mistakes can lead to catastrophic consequences.

I had to take and pass the same style of licensing test as a dump truck driver to be able to drive fire apparatus up to 80,000 pounds. You are required to walk around and inspect a vehicle like that before every trip and immediately correct any equipment violations. Truckers know missing a mudflap is like hanging a big stop/inspect me sign off of their truck, and not stopping would be highly suspicious of something else going on.

Having said that, none of that excuses using any more force than is necessary to make sure the driver is safe to be operating that vehicle.
 

APU_Fusion

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A missing flap lets it throw rocks at other vehicles potentially causing damage and distraction. A common way of losing them is backing over a decent sized fixed object, as the direction of tire travel pulls the mudflap down/off its mounting bracket, so that alone may indicate a recent lapse in judgement from an unlicensed/impaired/over hours driver.

It can also be indicative of a driver not maintaining/inspecting their vehicles. Things like tire pressure, tread depth, brake adjustment are harder or impossible to see while a vehicle is moving, but can lead to loss of control and accidents.

Drivers of large commercial vehicles are (and should be) subject to high levels of scrutiny as their mistakes can lead to catastrophic consequences.

I had to take and pass the same style of licensing test as a dump truck driver to be able to drive fire apparatus up to 80,000 pounds. You are required to walk around and inspect a vehicle like that before every trip and immediately correct any equipment violations. Truckers know missing a mudflap is like hanging a big stop/inspect me sign off of their truck, and not stopping would be highly suspicious of something else going on.

Having said that, none of that excuses using any more force than is necessary to make sure the driver is safe to be operating that vehicle.
Not disputing the pullover but the vicious attack. would a white truck driver have had a dog attack is the question. I very much doubt it
 

FirNaTine

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Not disputing the pullover but the vicious attack. would a white truck driver have had a dog attack is the question. I very much doubt it
You're probably right, but hard to say for sure without looking at the officer's prior interactions and use of force with POC. I'd hope that gets looked at in all this.

I was just offering a perspective on why a missing mudflap might be an indicator of a more serious problem with the driver and/or truck, and that that simply letting him drive off and catch up later as other posters suggested could have missed an opportunity to prevent a serious accident.
 

Lanyap

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A missing flap lets it throw rocks at other vehicles potentially causing damage and distraction. A common way of losing them is backing over a decent sized fixed object, as the direction of tire travel pulls the mudflap down/off its mounting bracket, so that alone may indicate a recent lapse in judgement from an unlicensed/impaired/over hours driver.

It can also be indicative of a driver not maintaining/inspecting their vehicles. Things like tire pressure, tread depth, brake adjustment are harder or impossible to see while a vehicle is moving, but can lead to loss of control and accidents.

Drivers of large commercial vehicles are (and should be) subject to high levels of scrutiny as their mistakes can lead to catastrophic consequences.

I had to take and pass the same style of licensing test as a dump truck driver to be able to drive fire apparatus up to 80,000 pounds. You are required to walk around and inspect a vehicle like that before every trip and immediately correct any equipment violations. Truckers know missing a mudflap is like hanging a big stop/inspect me sign off of their truck, and not stopping would be highly suspicious of something else going on.

Having said that, none of that excuses using any more force than is necessary to make sure the driver is safe to be operating that vehicle.



I don’t believe we know when the mud flap came off. The truck driver could have done a proper inspection at his last stop and the flap broke off since then. The other question is why the cops were prepared to use deadly force over a missing a mud flap. Even if the truck driver waited to pull over the first time, why do police need their weapons drawn?
 

FirNaTine

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I don’t believe we know when the mud flap came off. The truck driver could have done a proper inspection at his last stop and the flap broke off since then. The other question is why the cops were prepared to use deadly force over a missing a mud flap. Even if the truck driver waited to pull over the first time, why do police need their weapons drawn?
They don’t just break off with no warning. It would have been obviously damaged and he either didn’t notice or did and ignored it, or as I said more commonly he had hit and drove up onto something significant in reverse tearing it off.

Secondly, they don’t even need a reason to stop CDL vehicles. Just operating a vehicle subject to DOT commercial vehicle regs is sufficient cause for an officer to stop, inspect and check logs, current DOT medical card, etc. Just as a commercial kitchen doesn’t have an expectation of privacy from unannounced food safety inspections, commercial drivers are subject to safety checks without additional cause.

Traffic/inspection stops are just part of the job for a commercial driver. Not sure why he thought he could ignore an inspection stop. He not only kept driving after the initial attempted stop, he began to stop once after it would have already been considered pursuit/failure to yield and then drove off again.

Having a truck driver run from a stop, when they are a routine part of driving a truck would likely put most officers on edge and push it to a high risk stop. I’m not a cop, but having it drawn and pointed down seems pretty common on stops after a chase.
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Perknose

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Police hold family at gunpoint because of officer’s typo


"A family was on its way to a youth basketball tournament in the Dallas area on July 23 when an officer spotted the out-of-state license plate on their Dodge Charger. The officer incorrectly typed the plate’s state into a computer system, marking it as Arizona instead of Arkansas, the Frisco, Tex., Police Department said in a news release.

Thinking that the car was possibly stolen, police engaged in a “high-risk traffic stop” on the Dallas North Tollway, with officers drawing their guns and ordering a mother and her sixth-grade son to exit the vehicle. Police said the family “may get shot” if they reached into the car, according to body-camera footage released Friday.


Even though the woman, who is Black, repeatedly told police that they owned the car and corrected an officer who had wrongly said they were from Arizona, police handcuffed the son as his mother cried out."

^^^ Ummm, oops? Police mistakes can turn deadly when you're black.
 
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brycejones

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Police hold family at gunpoint because of officer’s typo


"A family was on its way to a youth basketball tournament in the Dallas area on July 23 when an officer spotted the out-of-state license plate on their Dodge Charger. The officer incorrectly typed the plate’s state into a computer system, marking it as Arizona instead of Arkansas, the Frisco, Tex., Police Department said in a news release.

Thinking that the car was possibly stolen, police engaged in a “high-risk traffic stop” on the Dallas North Tollway, with officers drawing their guns and ordering a mother and her sixth-grade son to exit the vehicle. Police said the family “may get shot” if they reached into the car, according to body-camera footage released Friday.


Even though the woman, who is Black, repeatedly told police that they owned the car and corrected an officer who had wrongly said they were from Arizona, police handcuffed the son as his mother cried out."

^^^ Ummm, oops? Police mistakes can turn deadly when you're black.
DWB with out of state plates is good enough to engage in some distracted driving to use the laptop to run the plate.

The reasoning for even beginning the process of this stop sounds like such bull shit.
 
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Lanyap

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They don’t just break off with no warning. It would have been obviously damaged and he either didn’t notice or did and ignored it, or as I said more commonly he had hit and drove up onto something significant in reverse tearing it off.

Secondly, they don’t even need a reason to stop CDL vehicles. Just operating a vehicle subject to DOT commercial vehicle regs is sufficient cause for an officer to stop, inspect and check logs, current DOT medical card, etc. Just as a commercial kitchen doesn’t have an expectation of privacy from unannounced food safety inspections, commercial drivers are subject to safety checks without additional cause.

Traffic/inspection stops are just part of the job for a commercial driver. Not sure why he thought he could ignore an inspection stop. He not only kept driving after the initial attempted stop, he began to stop once after it would have already been considered pursuit/failure to yield and then drove off again.

Having a truck driver run from a stop, when they are a routine part of driving a truck would likely put most officers on edge and push it to a high risk stop. I’m not a cop, but having it drawn and pointed down seems pretty common on stops after a chase.
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I'm sure we don't know the whole story. I'm sure there will be a lawsuit and maybe the details along with all of the police cam footage will be available of the entire episode.
 
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Police hold family at gunpoint because of officer’s typo


"A family was on its way to a youth basketball tournament in the Dallas area on July 23 when an officer spotted the out-of-state license plate on their Dodge Charger. The officer incorrectly typed the plate’s state into a computer system, marking it as Arizona instead of Arkansas, the Frisco, Tex., Police Department said in a news release.

Thinking that the car was possibly stolen, police engaged in a “high-risk traffic stop” on the Dallas North Tollway, with officers drawing their guns and ordering a mother and her sixth-grade son to exit the vehicle. Police said the family “may get shot” if they reached into the car, according to body-camera footage released Friday.


Even though the woman, who is Black, repeatedly told police that they owned the car and corrected an officer who had wrongly said they were from Arizona, police handcuffed the son as his mother cried out."

^^^ Ummm, oops? Police mistakes can turn deadly when you're black.

Looks like limitations that come about when you intentionally seek out the less intelligent as many police departments do.
 
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Amused

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Didnt think such characters existed other than redneck movies.


The shooting was NOT justified, but suspicion was. Door to door pine straw is a well known scam in GA, SC and NC and many elderly people have been scammed, bullied and threatened to pay hundreds or even thousands more than the original agreement.

The sheriff NEEDS to be fired. He handled this completely wrong.

BUT, door to door pine straw scams are out of control in GA. So much so that for a few years now the press has been warning about it.




And a video from Putam county last year about this very scam:

 

Vic

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DWB with out of state plates is good enough to engage in some distracted driving to use the laptop to run the plate.

The reasoning for even beginning the process of this stop sounds like such bull shit.
Yeah, it's funny how all the articles mention the typo but not that the officers had no reasonable suspicion to run the plates in the first place.

Also, it's a lot harder to keystroke error AZ for Arkansas than AR for Arizona. Just sayin
 
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