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HomerJS

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Once again the indignities suffered in this country upon black people. These women deserve 10 years in prison. If a black woman can get 5 years for a vote seems fair these Karen’s should get 10

Amazon should help their employee by filing suit against these Karens. Outing them and making them poor will end this stuff.
 
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GettyRoad

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It's still a concept in America 2023. There are multiple threads here showing black people being accosted because angry white people claim, "you don't belong here". Yet some people here claim it's partially or equally black people's fault.
The fact is that people, regardless of race prefer to associate and live with people of the same kind.....homogenous societies.

However, that does not excuse people from harassing people for entering neighborhoods, etc. It's a free country, people can venture to any neighborhood if they want as long as they are not bothering anyone.

They are some Black neighborhoods where whites won't be welcome either.
 

HomerJS

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The fact is that people, regardless of race prefer to associate and live with people of the same kind.....homogenous societies.

However, that does not excuse people from harassing people for entering neighborhoods, etc. It's a free country, people can venture to any neighborhood if they want as long as they are not bothering anyone.

They are some Black neighborhoods where whites won't be welcome either.
The “both sides do it” defense as to minimize the offense. Seen that one before.
 

DarthKyrie

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The “both sides do it” defense as to minimize the offense. Seen that one before.
I'm pasty white and I felt perfectly safe in Camden, New Jersey when I stayed at the Ronald McDonald House there when I went to CHiP (Children's Hospital in Philadelphia) back in 2003. For those who don't know Camden is just across the Philadelphia River from downtown and is a majority-black city. I'm a smoker and ended up spending quite a bit of time outside the house and never even heard a gunshot, hell I hardly even saw 20 people until the next day when we went into Philly.
 

GettyRoad

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The “both sides do it” defense as to minimize the offense. Seen that one before.
You would probably be suspicious or upset that a white person was walking in your Black neighborhood....the fact is that all of us stick to our own kind.....hence Umar Johnson and David Duke....Umar, the black nationalist, opposes interracial marriage. Duke, the white nationalist, opposes interracial marriage.

No one should be hassling people walking or driving through neighborhoods, though.
 
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I'm pasty white and I felt perfectly safe in Camden, New Jersey when I stayed at the Ronald McDonald House there when I went to CHiP (Children's Hospital in Philadelphia) back in 2003. For those who don't know Camden is just across the Philadelphia River from downtown and is a majority-black city. I'm a smoker and ended up spending quite a bit of time outside the house and never even heard a gunshot, hell I hardly even saw 20 people until the next day when we went into Philly.
I've been to Camden in the past, but you never felt scared or anything? Back then in 2003, Camden was a crime-ridden place.
 
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DarthKyrie

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I've been to Camden in the past, but you never felt scared or anything? Back then in 2003, Camden was a crime-ridden place.
I was more worried about my girlfriend and our unborn baby girl that we were trying desperately to save by seeing the top neuro-natal specialists east of the Mississippi River.

Long story short our dreams were smashed and it destroyed the person I was due to our archaic abortion laws in this country, 3rd trimester abortions being illegal and all unless of course, the mother is dying.

She gave birth to a baby that suffered for 20 minutes before dying due to her little heart exploding trying to pump blood through a tumor that was half her weight growing off her tailbone. I am still pissed that we were both put through that.
 
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HomerJS

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You would probably be suspicious or upset that a white person was walking in your Black neighborhood....the fact is that all of us stick to our own kind.....hence Umar Johnson and David Duke....Umar, the black nationalist, opposes interracial marriage. Duke, the white nationalist, opposes interracial marriage.

No one should be hassling people walking or driving through neighborhoods, though.
Who is Umar? And I guess you were unaware interracial marriage was illegal in this country until Loving v Virginia. That was white people responsible for that.
 

HomerJS

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The fact is that people, regardless of race prefer to associate and live with people of the same kind.....homogenous societies.

However, that does not excuse people from harassing people for entering neighborhoods, etc. It's a free country, people can venture to any neighborhood if they want as long as they are not bothering anyone.

They are some Black neighborhoods where whites won't be welcome either.
Tell that to Ahmed Arbury. If you are black in this country and walk in a neighborhood that doesn't look like you your life could be lost.

Find me the white person killed just for walking in a black neighborhood. If that case existed Fox News would have run it on a 24x7 loop
 

QueBert

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You would probably be suspicious or upset that a white person was walking in your Black neighborhood....the fact is that all of us stick to our own kind.....hence Umar Johnson and David Duke....Umar, the black nationalist, opposes interracial marriage. Duke, the white nationalist, opposes interracial marriage.

No one should be hassling people walking or driving through neighborhoods, though.

The difference is in the rougher, mostly black areas they're not on a mission to fuck with any white person they see. And they tend to treat all outsiders with a degree of suspicion. I'm not saying some of the black people in those areas don't harbor resentment towards Caucasian people. But they don't outwardly show it, and while some do exist, you rarely see a black Karen or Bob. I've been in more than a few bad areas that were predominately black. Do you know who I got the most shit from? The police "Do you live here? No? well, you have no business being here" And then I'd get accused of being there to buy drugs. From the residents, at most, I'd get a nasty stare. But my black friends would get the same stare, so it was probably because they were untrusting of people who didn't live there and had nothing to do with skin color. I've been in a lot of areas and never once had someone yelling at me and threatening and assaulting me while recording the shit saying "HELP he's hitting me!" As they were attacking me. And I've never felt unsafe, in those areas they're not gonna fuck with you unless you fuck with them first. And in all the Karen videos, it's pretty clear the person they're going ape shit on did nothing to provoke them.

Umar Johnson is one of the examples of a black man who would probably act like a male Karen in real life around white people. I've been in South Central LA where the 5%'ers are at. They openly don't care for Caucasians, but they never started shit with me.
 

HomerJS

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skyking

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That's crappy man. We visited friends in Asheville in 2007 and did not detect a vibe like that. If they were still there I would ask them if it has gone downhill. It had an upbeat and progressive vibe at that time.
 

FirNaTine

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I welcome all the racist apologists to post a story of blacks trashing a business just because the owner is white. Since everything is #bothsides.
There were a lot of Asian owned business burned and looted while at least some Black owned businesses were protected in Baltimore in 2015 around the time of Freddie Gray’s death. Some even considered it “payback” for how Asian store owners had treated Black customers previously.
NPR coverage - a lot of other articles are paywall protected now, that was a neutral source I could quickly find.

I’m only aware of it as I was on duty in a neighboring fire department when one of the worst days started. We sent a lot of units into Baltimore to assist, and there was a lot of contemporary coverage of it.

But, something a lot of folks outside the fire service and law enforcement don’t know is that any fire in a place of worship is automatically a federal/ATF investigation. I’ve had a few fires where there were more federal agents than firefighters on location by the time I left.

It is my understanding's from several arson investigators that I know/work with, is that one of the main reasons behind that is in certain parts of the country, Black churches had a habit of burning down with few cases of the local law enforcement bringing anyone to justice.

Obviously I don’t have historical crime numbers to prove it, but it’s my experience that racially motivated arson has been targeted towards Black people a lot more than by them.
 

HomerJS

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Basically you have said Asian businesses were attacked not just because they were Asian but because of the unrest in Baltimore. Not the same thing.

Having said that I will always condemn trashing property as a protest. Short and long term it doesn't do anyone good in addition to being a crime.
 
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Basically you have said Asian businesses were attacked not just because they were Asian but because of the unrest in Baltimore. Not the same thing.

Having said that I will always condone trashing property as a protest. Short and long term it doesn't do anyone good in addition to being a crime.
Read the coverage, they were specifically attacked because they were Asian, something on the order of 100 Asian owned stores were burned and looted.

Edit: I think I responded a bit fast, and thought you were attributing it solely to unrest, but agreed it doesn’t do any good.

It happened to be a time where non-Black businesses were targeted by Black communities that I was personally aware of/peripherally involved in responding to. I don’t particularly look for stories that fit that type, but was offering for discussion.
 
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Paratus

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Basically you have said Asian businesses were attacked not just because they were Asian but because of the unrest in Baltimore. Not the same thing.

Having said that I will always condone trashing property as a protest. Short and long term it doesn't do anyone good in addition to being a crime.
Umm did you mean not condone trashing property?
 

HomerJS

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