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spidey07

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Try asking them a question that lets them talk about themselves a little bit, then whatever they say might give you enough info to continue talking rather than sitting there like "derr... I'm sitting with a girl!!!1!"
Try to loosen up and not overanalyze the situation or make it out as more than it is.

"Really! that sounds so interesting! Tell me more!"



We're on the same page with this.
 

Lord Evermore

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Answer to all YAGT as I am now 35 years old.

1) You have no idea how many women thought you were the shiznit, but because you didn't do anything you got nothing.

2) They don't fall into your lap. You have to initiate and act first...sorry dude, that's the way it is. Do something.

3) Hi, wanna go out? goes a long way.

You know, THEY could start talking too. Women are strong, women are equal, blah blah blah, until it comes to who's the one who has to make the other feel pretty.
 

kamikaze27

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Jan 2, 2007
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go for it, just be confident without being arrogant. no planning, wing it, she can see right through you if you plan.
 

Fox5

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
Originally posted by: spidey07
Answer to all YAGT as I am now 35 years old.

1) You have no idea how many women thought you were the shiznit, but because you didn't do anything you got nothing.

2) They don't fall into your lap. You have to initiate and act first...sorry dude, that's the way it is. Do something.

3) Hi, wanna go out? goes a long way.

You know, THEY could start talking too. Women are strong, women are equal, blah blah blah, until it comes to who's the one who has to make the other feel pretty.

Sometimes you'll find girls who want to be your mama, but honestly, a girl generally doesn't have to work to find a man, so you have to show them why they should pick this man.
 

mattjbak

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Jun 3, 2005
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Most guys don't realize that freshman and sophmore (others too, just not as easy) college girls (on average) want nothing more than flattery and are down for way more than you'd believe. I'm in my fourth year now and if you're confident in yourself, it couldn't matter AT ALL what you are talking about (to a point), it's about how you're carrying yourself.
 

timosyy

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Its amazing what happens when you just talk.

I remember freshman year college, first or second day, got on a bus to some freshman event- packed bus. Girl sat down next to me. I introduced myself ("Hey whats up... I'm ___. Where're you from? Oh, nice, haha- I'm from out of state..."), next thing I know I'm being introduced to all her friends, we play cards/watch movie/chat until 3am in one of her friend's dorms, and she's spending time in my room by the end of the week. Wasn't looking for a relationship so I didn't let it go any further than that but the potential is there, if you just start talking. About anything.
 

db

Lifer
Dec 6, 1999
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Just learn by doing. Learn from mistakes. You'd be surprised how many girls go out with over-confident jerks who will say anything just to say something, and for some reason it works anyway. So how can you go wrong?

Don't try to be a comedian, but a sense of humor is good. Always being serious is not perceived as fun or easy to be around. You do like to have fun, right? Girls like to have fun--what a concept!
 

Zero001

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Answer to all YAGT as I am now 35 years old.

1) You have no idea how many women thought you were the shiznit, but because you didn't do anything you got nothing.

2) They don't fall into your lap. You have to initiate and act first...sorry dude, that's the way it is. Do something.

3) Hi, wanna go out? goes a long way.
^^^ The man speaks the truth.


You just have to try or you'll never know. You have nothing to loose and if anything gain some experience and confidence

- Pay attention. Try and find something for you to break the ice with.
- Always be prepared. For ex. when it rains, it never fails but I always find a girl to walk with me under my umbrella.
- If they're within a group of girls it becomes interesting. I your confident enough pass by them and make eye contact while smiling (not in a creepy way. casually. no teeth) and continue walking. You'd be suprised at how much that can accomplish.

Confidence can't be given, you have to find it within yourself. Even if you get shot down, big deal. You'll find that your recovery time gets shorter every time.



 

dotcom173

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Jan 16, 2006
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Sup bitch

Sex?



(~ Scott)

ya.....just start off with "sup bitch," then double space and put whatever u want from them.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Mai too sense...

The best way to come up with small talk is to be very perceptive. Take in your situation, the circumstances, and your surroundings. Consider her and you in that context. What might she be thinking about X? Consider the possible responses, and then ask her. After she responds, explain to her how your expectation might have been different from her actual response. Something like:

You: "Do you think X is Y or Z?"
Her: "Sometimes, but a lot of the time I think X is A and B."
You: "That's interesting. I didn't think that X would seem so A and B."
Her: "I'm swimming in my panties right now. Let's go back to my place."

Ok so the last line is obviously a joke, but I think you get the idea. The important and most difficult part is the selection of a topic that won't reflect negatively on you. Pick something that a woman would likely have strong feelings about. DO NOT rely on stereotypes, however. Be insightful. That's the hard part.

Good luck. If you're not already, I would suggest hitting the gym, too. It will not only build your own confidence, but it will help make a better first impression, which will in turn allow you to flub up the first conversation a little and still salvage her interest.
 

gamepad

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first find out all the information you can about her, including ss#, address, phone#, parents names, etc. then go tell her all the information you know about her; she will be flattered and won't be able to resist a date.
 

db

Lifer
Dec 6, 1999
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You have to accept that you will make mistakes but it is not fatal. This is normal. We all learn by doing. And doing again.
Maybe it would help if you *expect* to make mistakes, and have a sense of humor about it. Fear is what you have to overcome.
Just start in a small way. Smile to all the girls, even if you don't talk. Not a stupid or put on grin, but rather a kind smile. See what happens.
 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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hi! my name is "the hstrybean" can we do it please?

this will get you in ten seconds flat (well actually a big slap in the face and knee to the groin but i'm sadistic like that

Hi and a "how are you?" she'll say she's either a: i'm fine or b:not doing to well today. c: choke and spit while trying to "hi, how are you?"

if a: then say"cool" and see if you responds back with a question. go from there.

if b: then say"sorry to hear that, wassup?" most of the time chicks open up if you show interest that way. be empathetic. acknowledge the issue and see if you can cheer her up with a quirky joke (do not belittle even if just playing around). make her see that it's just a bad day and it will get better (especially if you are the one making her feel better).

if c: run away and never talk to girls again.
 

DJFuji

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Oct 18, 1999
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First off, realize that ATOT is not the greatest place to be asking for advice on women. Seriously, it's like asking for hardware advice on bodybuilder.com (coincidentally, that site is also a poor place to get YAGT advice, but it's probably better than here). You might get a few decent nuggets, but it's primarily going to be stupid pickup lines or advice from keyboard jockeys who have never actually practiced the advice theyre giving out.

Disclaimer aside, there are two main ways to start a conversation:

a) situational opener
b) pre-rehearsed opener

In a situational opener, you have to be witty and think of something on the fly in your given situation. The problem with this is that you have to be witty and you cant make a comment about something retardedly obvious. If she has a huge tattoo on her arm, for example, don't go "hey nice tattoo where'd you get it?" That's not situational, that's lame ass super dork. A girl i met last week in a bar told me yesterday that she HATES when guys do that because its just an excuse to talk to them and its SO transparent. Situational is when she stumbles slightly as she's walking to her seat next to yours in a busy classroom and you say "Dont worry NO ONE saw that. *smile* You must be a ballerina?" Again, this relies on both the situation and your ability to come up with something appropriate.

In a prerehearsed opener you have a few openers that you have available to you at all times. You've prepared for this scenario so you've rehearsed it and know what to say. If you see a hot girl and want to talk to her you automatically have something to talk about. No need to be witty on the spot. Good backup plan.

For example, say a girl is sitting down in the library studying.

You could go direct and show your interest right away: "hi, saw you from over there and knew i'd kick myself later if i didnt say hi. *smile* I'm (john). *shake hands*" Or you could go semi direct and just be the friendly social guy. "hi you seem friendly. I'm new here. My name's John." If she's in a group (especially if the group contains guys), approach the entire group. "hey guys you seem cool. I'm new here, my name's John."

Thing is, when you approach people in general, they normally expect you to lead the conversation initially. Unless theyre unusually friendly or the girl is attracted to you or they recognize you, they won't have much to say. You're some random stranger who's approached them. Think of if some random person approached you and your friends. You'd be like "umm...ok...what does he want?" So you must attract the group. In other words, you must demonstrate some sort of value to them. Yes, you're on a stage. If you have stage fright, you better get over it quick and learn to talk, talk, talk.

And beware of just asking her (or them) a ton of questions. Questions aren't inherently bad but they don't give value. They generally take it. Think of your conversations with your friends. 90% of those conversations consist of you both making STATEMENTS, not asking each other questions. If she's not attracted to you, she won't want to answer your questions anyway, so it's a moot point. It's much easier to demonstrate value by making statements.

What is value? Being interesting. Being funny. Being a cool guy. Being well-connected. Etc. You know all those weird, obscure facts we know as geeks? Those things are interesting a lot of times. Use that. Well, don't be like "did you know that a kilobyte is *actually* 1024 bytes and not 1000 bytes? Because its in binary which means it goes by powers of 2..." But use the actual interesting tidbits we all know.

Take last week. I'm in an elevator going down from the 22nd floor of my friend's condo. Hot girl gets on. The moment she steps in i say something. Because nothing's weirder than the guy who sits there silent and gathers up his courage to say something and then is so nervous that he stutters. "Good morning". "Good morning" she says. Door closes.

Me: *smiling* "Every time i'm in an elevator i'm reminded of the elevator trick. Did you know that there's a code to prevent the elevator from stopping on any floor on our way down?"

Her: "are you serious?"

Me: "Yeah, it totally pisses people off though. When you press your floor, hold the door-close-button while you do it and it'll skip all the people waiting on the way. When i lived in manhattan with my friend Julie we were on the top floor and she hated waiting for a half hour to get to the bottom with all the stops so sometimes when she was in a rush she'd do that and go straight to the lobby."

Her: Haha that's cool. So you're from manhattan?

*conversation started*

There's much more to approaching random strangers than simply having the balls to do so, though that is a prerequisite. Approaching is only the first piece of the puzzle. If she doesn't automatically think youre amazingly cool and handsome, you're going to have to demonstrate your first-rate personality. You DO have one of those, right? If not, that's the first thing to work on. But most of us are at least a LITTLE interesting. We just dont know how to demonstrate it. But the more you approach and the more social interactions you have, the better you'll get at it. And the better you get at it, the more success you'll have and the more confidence you'll gain from that success. It's a spiraling upward process.

So tomorrow, go approach 10 women. You might fail at all ten of them. Big deal. Maybe you'll make a friend or two. Maybe she'll introduce you to other women. Who knows? But even if none of that happens, you'll be 10 approaches more experienced than you are today. So when that perfect girl *does* come along, you won't be sitting there going 'uhh ive never done this before i hope i dont screw it up.'

Good luck.

PM me if you need help.

"Dont wait til youre thirsty to dig a well"
-Chinese proverb
 
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