YAGT: Just found out she didn't cheat on me

[eits]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

i should have better explained the person... the neighbor killed a guy a long time ago and really regretted it and couldn't believe what he'd done... he was wrapped up in the moment and it happened. he didn't premeditate the crime or anything. does that make him a bad person? sure, it gives you second thoughts about living with a guy who you might think to be volatile, but that's about it.... the same goes with relationships after you found out she cheated on you. you wonder whether or not she's worth being with and wondering whether or not it can happen again, no matter whether she loves you or not.

that's why i'm saying it's not that black and white of a situation.

Your analogy only really works if a long time ago this neighbor killed someone you love and broke your trust. Do you still move past it and forgive him or her because it was a 'mistake', if his mistake hurt you personally?

... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If she truly loved him, she never would have done that. Period.

it's not that black and white... the only thing that's black and white is what you do after you find out your significant other cheated on you: stay or leave. if you believe that she's extremely sorry and still loves you and you still love her, you try to work it out as best you can, if you can. if you don't believe she still loves you or if you don't love her anymore, you leave.

unless you're on the receiving end, cheating really isn't the most cut and dry thing, guys.

Well when someday you finally figure out what love really is, then you may understand. But it is that simple. If she was truly in love it never would have happened. She has probably also yet to find out what love really is.

i know what love is, you pretentious douche. just because i don't see eye to eye with you on this subject doesn't mean that i don't know what love is.

i'm not excusing cheating... i'm saying that just because someone cheated on you one time and regretted it doesn't mean that they didn't love you. quit being ignorant and looking at the world in monochrome... it's not that easy.

They may have loved you up until the exact point they cheated on you, but true love requires sacrifice. Cheating = opposite of sacrifice. Its inexcusable. Doesnt matter how plastered he or she is. Once, and it's over as far as I'm concerned.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

i should have better explained the person... the neighbor killed a guy a long time ago and really regretted it and couldn't believe what he'd done... he was wrapped up in the moment and it happened. he didn't premeditate the crime or anything. does that make him a bad person? sure, it gives you second thoughts about living with a guy who you might think to be volatile, but that's about it.... the same goes with relationships after you found out she cheated on you. you wonder whether or not she's worth being with and wondering whether or not it can happen again, no matter whether she loves you or not.

that's why i'm saying it's not that black and white of a situation.

Your analogy only really works if a long time ago this neighbor killed someone you love and broke your trust. Do you still move past it and forgive him or her because it was a 'mistake', if his mistake hurt you personally?

... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

No apologies should be accepted. They can think about what they did in the dumpster.
Staying with a cheating partner is only for the weak and stupid.

If you truly love someone, you would never think of hurting them like that.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: eits
... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

So you can be in love with someone even though you have no serious committment to them or don't feel obligated enough to just say no? (Which you most certainly don't if you are cheating on them) How does that work?

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If she truly loved him, she never would have done that. Period.

it's not that black and white... the only thing that's black and white is what you do after you find out your significant other cheated on you: stay or leave. if you believe that she's extremely sorry and still loves you and you still love her, you try to work it out as best you can, if you can. if you don't believe she still loves you or if you don't love her anymore, you leave.

unless you're on the receiving end, cheating really isn't the most cut and dry thing, guys.

Well when someday you finally figure out what love really is, then you may understand. But it is that simple. If she was truly in love it never would have happened. She has probably also yet to find out what love really is.

i know what love is, you pretentious douche. just because i don't see eye to eye with you on this subject doesn't mean that i don't know what love is.

i'm not excusing cheating... i'm saying that just because someone cheated on you one time and regretted it doesn't mean that they didn't love you. quit being ignorant and looking at the world in monochrome... it's not that easy.

They may have loved you up until the exact point they cheated on you, but true love requires sacrifice. Cheating = opposite of sacrifice. Its inexcusable. Doesnt matter how plastered he or she is. Once, and it's over as far as I'm concerned.

i haven't been in the situation, so i don't know whether i can say that if she cheated on me once, it'd be over. i'd like to think i'd say that, but i can't say it for sure without being in the situation.... i think i would... i dunno how i'd be able to handle knowing that she cheated on me with someone else and i wouldn't want to be worrying about whether or not it'll happen again...

either way, i still say it's possible for someone to love their significant other even though they cheated... it's possible to love someone and not be happy with the status of your relationship and, therefore, more easily led astray or seduced... and then, after it happens, it's possible to feel like shyt for what you've done and for betraying your significant other's trust and love because you still love them...

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

i should have better explained the person... the neighbor killed a guy a long time ago and really regretted it and couldn't believe what he'd done... he was wrapped up in the moment and it happened. he didn't premeditate the crime or anything. does that make him a bad person? sure, it gives you second thoughts about living with a guy who you might think to be volatile, but that's about it.... the same goes with relationships after you found out she cheated on you. you wonder whether or not she's worth being with and wondering whether or not it can happen again, no matter whether she loves you or not.

that's why i'm saying it's not that black and white of a situation.

Your analogy only really works if a long time ago this neighbor killed someone you love and broke your trust. Do you still move past it and forgive him or her because it was a 'mistake', if his mistake hurt you personally?

... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

This analogy isn't really applicable because in your example the neighbor killed somebody 'long ago' and had nothing to do with trust or love. Sure, peolpe make mistakes, and people also change and good people do bad things. But that is all irrelevant. Maybe it would be ok to date someone who cheated on their previous SO 20 years ago. That would be more applicable to your analogy.
And to go back to your previous comments. Even if you have been in a relationship a long time, if you still love somebody, you don't 'get bored, and get caught up in the moment'. If you do, then you are not in love. Period.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

So you can be in love with someone even though you have no serious committment to them or don't feel obligated enough to just say no? (Which you most certainly don't if you are cheating on them) How does that work?

some people are fickle...

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

So you can be in love with someone even though you have no serious committment to them or don't feel obligated enough to just say no? (Which you most certainly don't if you are cheating on them) How does that work?

some people are fickle...

:roll:

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

i should have better explained the person... the neighbor killed a guy a long time ago and really regretted it and couldn't believe what he'd done... he was wrapped up in the moment and it happened. he didn't premeditate the crime or anything. does that make him a bad person? sure, it gives you second thoughts about living with a guy who you might think to be volatile, but that's about it.... the same goes with relationships after you found out she cheated on you. you wonder whether or not she's worth being with and wondering whether or not it can happen again, no matter whether she loves you or not.

that's why i'm saying it's not that black and white of a situation.

Your analogy only really works if a long time ago this neighbor killed someone you love and broke your trust. Do you still move past it and forgive him or her because it was a 'mistake', if his mistake hurt you personally?

... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

This analogy isn't really applicable because in your example the neighbor killed somebody 'long ago' and had nothing to do with trust or love. Sure, peolpe make mistakes, and people also change and good people do bad things. But that is all irrelevant. Maybe it would be ok to date someone who cheated on their previous SO 20 years ago. That would be more applicable to your analogy.
And to go back to your previous comments. Even if you have been in a relationship a long time, if you still love somebody, you don't 'get bored, and get caught up in the moment'. If you do, then you are not in love. Period.

haha ok, so marriages are ALWAYS exciting and new, right? dude, c'mon...

i'll accept your argument about my analogy, but not that last part... you're saying that relationships never get a little routine or stale at times even when both people love each other.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

So you can be in love with someone even though you have no serious committment to them or don't feel obligated enough to just say no? (Which you most certainly don't if you are cheating on them) How does that work?

some people are fickle...

:roll:

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

i'm cool with that hehe

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

I don't have one. There are absolutely no circumstances in which I would cheat on my SO. Period. (Unless maybe I was raped, but I assume that would not count)

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

LOL. I mean HAHAHAHAH. Any one that sticks around after their SO cheated on them is a moron IMO. OP, sorry to hear about your situation, go out with your buddies, have a good time, work out a lot, things WILL get better.

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

i should have better explained the person... the neighbor killed a guy a long time ago and really regretted it and couldn't believe what he'd done... he was wrapped up in the moment and it happened. he didn't premeditate the crime or anything. does that make him a bad person? sure, it gives you second thoughts about living with a guy who you might think to be volatile, but that's about it.... the same goes with relationships after you found out she cheated on you. you wonder whether or not she's worth being with and wondering whether or not it can happen again, no matter whether she loves you or not.

that's why i'm saying it's not that black and white of a situation.

Your analogy only really works if a long time ago this neighbor killed someone you love and broke your trust. Do you still move past it and forgive him or her because it was a 'mistake', if his mistake hurt you personally?

... why would it work if the neighbor killed someone you loved?

the point of the analogy was to point out that someone can make a mistake or get caught in the moment and do something terribly wrong, but do you try to work past it or move on if the person is truly apologetic about it.

cheating isn't as much of a matter of whether or not the person loves their significant other... it has more to do with whether the person has good morals or sense of obligation. i think you people are having a hard time seeing the difference. yes, if you love someone, typically, you SHOULD have an increased sense of obligation, but sometimes that's not how it always happens... people are different and not everyone always has the greatest amount of willpower or fortitude.

just because someone cheated doesn't necessarily always mean that they don't love their significant other still.

This analogy isn't really applicable because in your example the neighbor killed somebody 'long ago' and had nothing to do with trust or love. Sure, peolpe make mistakes, and people also change and good people do bad things. But that is all irrelevant. Maybe it would be ok to date someone who cheated on their previous SO 20 years ago. That would be more applicable to your analogy.
And to go back to your previous comments. Even if you have been in a relationship a long time, if you still love somebody, you don't 'get bored, and get caught up in the moment'. If you do, then you are not in love. Period.

haha ok, so marriages are ALWAYS exciting and new, right? dude, c'mon...

i'll accept your argument about my analogy, but not that last part... you're saying that relationships never get a little routine or stale at times even when both people love each other.

I never said that relationships don't sometimes get routine at times.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

I don't have one. There are absolutely no circumstances in which I would cheat on my SO. Period. (Unless maybe I was raped, but I assume that would not count)

oh come on... what fairytale land do you come from?

we're all humans.. we're all animals... life isn't a romance movie you can order on netflix.

EVERYONE'S got a limit... you just have been smart enough not to reach it. some people aren't as bright.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

There's the kind of love thats like "he's great, I want to stay with him", and the "I love him so much that I could never live without him, and would never do anything to throw that away" type. My love for my gf is of the latter, and if she feels differently, and chooses someone else's bone over that, I want nothing to do with her, and if she soberly did it, especially with someone I knew, I am capable of doing very, very horrible things.

I have been absolutely plastered in the presence of hot women many a time. And I've never even tried. I would never do that to her. If I were to do that, I'd have to accept that I'd rather get a little ass than stay with my GF, and thats not true love. It doesnt mean I don't look at other women or anything, but I can keep it in my pants.

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

I don't have one. There are absolutely no circumstances in which I would cheat on my SO. Period. (Unless maybe I was raped, but I assume that would not count)

oh come on... what fairytale land do you come from?

we're all humans.. we're all animals... life isn't a romance movie you can order on netflix.

EVERYONE'S got a limit... you just have been smart enough not to reach it. some people aren't as bright.

I don't live in a fairytale land. I still don't have a limit.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
just because she cheated on you doesn't mean she doesn't love you... it just means that she made a dumb and regretful choice. if she KEPT cheating on you, that'd mean that she didn't really love you that much.

No actually... that's a pretty good signal that she doesn't love you. If she even cared about you a little bit she wouldn't have done that.

sometimes people make bad choices. you honestly think that if someone cheats on the other person and regrets it because it was a mistake and they love their significant other that they really don't?

If you love someone, you dont make choices like that.

Dropping a cup on the floor = accidental mistake.
Cheating = intentional act of selfishness.

i only agree with part of the bottom thing you said... except i don't think it's always intentional. say, for example, your girlfriend gets drunk at a party and she's really attracted to some guy who's been hitting on her all night and has been showing her attention that you don't... say that she's so drunk and her inhibitions are out the window, for the most part, that she makes out with the guy...

does that mean she doesn't still love you? or does it mean that she's a really bad decision-maker?

most of the time, though, cheating is an act of selfishness, more so than it is an intentional act. CHRONIC cheating, however, is most definitely an intentional act of selfishness... people do go out looking to cheat.

It means she didnt love you enough to consider the consequences to get so plastered that she'd lose her inhibitions. And as drunk as you can ever be, cheating is still a choice.

Losing inhibitions means youre doing what you really want to do, and if what you really want to do is bone other guys, thats not what I call love.

no, it means that even though she loves you, she didn't consider the consequences of what would happen if she got plastered and lost her inhibitions. there's a difference there.

and, yes, cheating is a choice... but it can be heavily influenced.

if you lost all inhibition and you were in the room with a totally hot girl who's been giving you the eye all night long, i'm pretty sure that, if you've reached your threshold, human nature would overcome what you think you'd do. the difference is how low your threshold for losing your inhibitions is... everyone's is different.

There's the kind of love thats like "he's great, I want to stay with him", and the "I love him so much that I could never live without him, and would never do anything to throw that away" type. My love for my gf is of the latter, and if she feels differently, and chooses someone else's bone over that, I want nothing to do with her, and if she soberly did it, especially with someone I knew, I am capable of doing very, very horrible things.

I have been absolutely plastered in the presence of hot women many a time. And I've never even tried. I would never do that to her. If I were to do that, I'd have to accept that I'd rather get a little ass than stay with my GF, and thats not true love. It doesnt mean I don't look at other women or anything, but I can keep it in my pants.

i don't disagree with what you just said here...

all i'm saying is that people are different and it's possible for someone to still love their significant other and cheat on them. it's a shame and it doesn't make things any better, but it's possible.

edit: i might be wrong, but i think i remember you saying something in a thread about you and your gf having a celebrity free pass... like, you and your gf would be cool with it if you cheated on the for one night with a certain celebrity if the opportunity arose... it might have been someone else, but i think you were one of the many people who said something to that effect.

 

[eits]

gotta take a shower, brb.

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: BD2003

There's the kind of love thats like "he's great, I want to stay with him", and the "I love him so much that I could never live without him, and would never do anything to throw that away" type. My love for my gf is of the latter, and if she feels differently, and chooses someone else's bone over that, I want nothing to do with her, and if she soberly did it, especially with someone I knew, I am capable of doing very, very horrible things.

I have been absolutely plastered in the presence of hot women many a time. And I've never even tried. I would never do that to her. If I were to do that, I'd have to accept that I'd rather get a little ass than stay with my GF, and thats not true love. It doesnt mean I don't look at other women or anything, but I can keep it in my pants.

That's how I feel about my SO too, and that's why I do not have a limit. (Even though I don't like in fairytale land)

 

[FilmCamera]

Originally posted by: eits
and i know what kind you are... pretentious as hell.

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

And you ignored my question I see.

 

[FilmCamera]

Originally posted by: eits
i don't disagree with what you just said here...

all i'm saying is that people are different and it's possible for someone to still like their significant other and cheat on them. it's a shame and it doesn't make things any better, but it's possible.

fixed

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: eits
i don't disagree with what you just said here...

all i'm saying is that people are different and it's possible for someone to still love or like their significant other and cheat on them. it's a shame and it doesn't make things any better, but it's possible.

I'm pretentious

yes, you are.