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[RampantAndroid]

What's wrong with Marlin? I keep hearing about "how they've gone down hill" but it never gets anymore specific than that. Also it looks like Taurus is buying up Freedom Group, so I guess we'll just have to accept them.

Look up issues with them. Most common are feed issues/tube magazine issues. When looking at them I take snap caps along and run them through it. Marlins from >10 years ago are solid. Recent ones not so much. If freedom group is bought by Taurus...well, nothing changes. I don't like AAC - they're trying too hard to be tacticool. Remington took a step down under the group, marlin obviously is shit, Para I'm not sure was ever that special...so I'll just continue to avoid guns made by the freedom group unless something happens to change my views on them.

 

[corwin]

Look up issues with them. Most common are feed issues/tube magazine issues. When looking at them I take snap caps along and run them through it. Marlins from >10 years ago are solid. Recent ones not so much. If freedom group is bought by Taurus...well, nothing changes. I don't like AAC - they're trying too hard to be tacticool. Remington took a step down under the group, marlin obviously is shit, Para I'm not sure was ever that special...so I'll just continue to avoid guns made by the freedom group unless something happens to change my views on them.

Good thing few care what you think Taurus makes one of the best 1911's out there right now, but you go on hatin', I'll keep on shooting and enjoin'

 

[RampantAndroid]

Good thing few care what you think Taurus makes one of the best 1911's out there right now, but you go on hatin', I'll keep on shooting and enjoin'

1911s are very much "you get what you pay for" - I don't have to look far to find bad reports on Taurus 1911s. And one of the best? If you say so - I'll take a Dan Wesson, Kimber 1 series, Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat or similar 1911 over a Taurus any day. If you mean to say "Taurus makes a good budget 1911" you might be saying something believable...but you didn't say that.

My comments on Taurus relate specifically to crap like bad spring out of the box, bad cylinder on a revolver (see thefiringline forums for a thoroughly AWFUL experience with Taurus...) and so forth. They seem remarkably unreliable. If they hit you're fine...if they miss, you're at the mercy of their CS. S&W CS took a revolver of mine with questionable damage on the notches of the cylinder and replaced the whole thing. That's amazing CS. Taurus CS ranges from as amazing to....not so amazing.

 

[pontifex]

Wish I could find some federal HST at a reasonable price.

got 6 boxes of 50 9mm federal HST for $37 a box from luckygunner a few weeks ago. they had a good bit in stock at the time too.

 

[boomhower]

Where? And do they sell online?

I don't need it but a PS90 would be freaking awesome and that's a good price even pre panic.

That's law enforement pricing. It's a really good price, $500 cheaper than I've seen them anywhere. It's just that gun that has a big discount. Shotguns and pistols are much more meh, nothing like Glock's pricing. I've been itching for an SLP shotgun and it's still out of my comfort zone at $1k.

 

[pontifex]

1911s are very much "you get what you pay for" - I don't have to look far to find bad reports on Taurus 1911s. And one of the best? If you say so - I'll take a Dan Wesson, Kimber 1 series, Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat or similar 1911 over a Taurus any day. If you mean to say "Taurus makes a good budget 1911" you might be saying something believable...but you didn't say that.

My comments on Taurus relate specifically to crap like bad spring out of the box, bad cylinder on a revolver (see thefiringline forums for a thoroughly AWFUL experience with Taurus...) and so forth. They seem remarkably unreliable. If they hit you're fine...if they miss, you're at the mercy of their CS. S&W CS took a revolver of mine with questionable damage on the notches of the cylinder and replaced the whole thing. That's amazing CS. Taurus CS ranges from as amazing to....not so amazing.

lol at comparing custom or semi-custom 1911s, super high end expensive as fuck 1911s to commercial 1911. not that i think taurus 1911 is one of the best, never shot one actually.

 

[irishScott]

Good thing few care what you think Taurus makes one of the best 1911's out there right now, but you go on hatin', I'll keep on shooting and enjoin'

Taurus makes a "passable" 1911. I'd take an RIA over it anyday.

 

[RampantAndroid]

lol at comparing custom or semi-custom 1911s, super high end expensive as fuck 1911s to commercial 1911. not that i think taurus 1911 is one of the best, never shot one actually.

Except Taurus claims they hand fit all 1911s and have "very high tolerances"; moreover he claimed they make one of the best 1911s with no qualifiers. It won't compare to a Kimber, and certainly won't compare to 1911s made with more care.

And my CCO is anything but custom; it's a very high end production 1911 that is very well made.

Taurus makes a "passable" 1911. I'd take an RIA over it anyday.

This - RIA has made leaps and bounds in the right direction in the last few years.

 

[pontifex]

Except Taurus claims they hand fit all 1911s and have "very high tolerances"; moreover he claimed they make one of the best 1911s with no qualifiers. It won't compare to a Kimber, and certainly won't compare to 1911s made with more care.

And my CCO is anything but custom; it's a very high end production 1911 that is very well made.



This - RIA has made leaps and bounds in the right direction in the last few years.

you've never heard of marketing? could hand fit 1 part and claim its hand fit. very high tolerances compared to what? again, it could be very high compared to the original colt 1911s from WWII.

like i said, not backing him up in that it's the best or even near one of the best 1911s.

 

[corwin]

you've never heard of marketing? could hand fit 1 part and claim its hand fit. very high tolerances compared to what? again, it could be very high compared to the original colt 1911s from WWII.

like i said, not backing him up in that it's the best or even near one of the best 1911s.

Thanks but never said "the" best, just one of the best...and exactly as you pointed out not a high end expensive as fuck 1911, but one of thw best, and most cost effective, basic 1911's

 

[HumblePie]

I like my cheapie 1911 very much though

 

[RampantAndroid]

you've never heard of marketing? could hand fit 1 part and claim its hand fit. very high tolerances compared to what? again, it could be very high compared to the original colt 1911s from WWII.

like i said, not backing him up in that it's the best or even near one of the best 1911s.

Too lazy to look it up, but it was on the first two pages of reviews for the PT1911 where they claim to hand fit every part...and engrave a serial on every part as well so you know it's all matching.

Thanks but never said "the" best, just one of the best...and exactly as you pointed out not a high end expensive as fuck 1911, but one of thw best, and most cost effective, basic 1911's

Except this is what you said:

Taurus makes one of the best 1911's out there right now

Can I suggest you qualify your statements in future better?

 

[velillen]

Indeed. I was heavily intrigued by his recent Boberg XR9 video. Been reading about it for some time, but this is the first time I've seen it shot. Pricey, but looks pretty sweet overall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckyUmldwiDo

I loved the video. Looks like an awesome gun and something unique too. But the price tag killed it for me. Im not paying 1k+ for a carry gun when i can get a proven XDs, Shield, LC9, LCP, ect for half the cost (or more). Still cool to see US companies trying new things

 

[corwin]

Can I suggest you qualify your statements in future better?

Hmm...guess I figured that would be common sense to know I wasn't referring to custom guns, but it sounds like you may need everything spelled out for you so I'll keep that in mind

 

[JackBurton]

1911s are very much "you get what you pay for" - I don't have to look far to find bad reports on Taurus 1911s. And one of the best? If you say so - I'll take a Dan Wesson, Kimber 1 series, Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat or similar 1911 over a Taurus any day. If you mean to say "Taurus makes a good budget 1911" you might be saying something believable...but you didn't say that.

My comments on Taurus relate specifically to crap like bad spring out of the box, bad cylinder on a revolver (see thefiringline forums for a thoroughly AWFUL experience with Taurus...) and so forth. They seem remarkably unreliable. If they hit you're fine...if they miss, you're at the mercy of their CS. S&W CS took a revolver of mine with questionable damage on the notches of the cylinder and replaced the whole thing. That's amazing CS. Taurus CS ranges from as amazing to....not so amazing.

I'd love to have a Wilson Combat 1911. Definitely on my short list.

 

[x-alki]

My short wish list is a Walther PPQ.

 

[z1ggy]

Carried for the first time today (in public). Felt kind of paranoid but I didn't carry with OIC ( I will once I get used to it. Carried a full size m&p9 under a sweatshirt and coat. Feels a bit heavy but not terrible. I will have a smaller .380 once the weather warms up.

Question though: For you guys who carry IWB, where do you position the holster? Mine was right over my hip basically and it felt a bit..Bulky. When I positioned it more toward my butt cheek, it felt better but then I couldn't access and draw as quickly and it didn't feel as safe when I draw.

 

[shortylickens]

Carried for the first time today (in public). Felt kind of paranoid but I didn't carry with OIC ( I will once I get used to it. Carried a full size m&p9 under a sweatshirt and coat. Feels a bit heavy but not terrible. I will have a smaller .380 once the weather warms up.

Question though: For you guys who carry IWB, where do you position the holster? Mine was right over my hip basically and it felt a bit..Bulky. When I positioned it more toward my butt cheek, it felt better but then I couldn't access and draw as quickly and it didn't feel as safe when I draw.

Yup, 9mm is better for cold weather when can assume your assailant will be wearing heavy clothing. Theres a crapload of videos on this subject. Its especially noticeable with leather and jean jackets.

As for gun: I keep mine in my pocket, the advantage of the LCP's small profile.
Otherwise at the right hip or slightly behind, where its easy to grab. In your terms it would be like 4 o'clock, maybe 5. Still relatively concealed but also accessible.
If it didnt dig into my groin I'd actually prefer the front, cuz its harder for a ninja to access it and steal.

 

[corwin]

Carried for the first time today (in public). Felt kind of paranoid but I didn't carry with OIC ( I will once I get used to it. Carried a full size m&p9 under a sweatshirt and coat. Feels a bit heavy but not terrible. I will have a smaller .380 once the weather warms up.

Question though: For you guys who carry IWB, where do you position the holster? Mine was right over my hip basically and it felt a bit..Bulky. When I positioned it more toward my butt cheek, it felt better but then I couldn't access and draw as quickly and it didn't feel as safe when I draw.

I prefer appendix carry, about the 1 o clock position...not sure how tht would feel with a full size but my 3" barrelled .45 sits there nicely even when I'm sitting or driving. Around back like you did works too bit drawing is a bit harder, appendix carry you can lift your shirt with your off hand while drawing which helps a ton.

 

[z1ggy]

Yup, 9mm is better for cold weather when can assume your assailant will be wearing heavy clothing. Theres a crapload of videos on this subject. Its especially noticeable with leather and jean jackets.

As for gun: I keep mine in my pocket, the advantage of the LCP's small profile.
Otherwise at the right hip or slightly behind, where its easy to grab. In your terms it would be like 4 o'clock, maybe 5. Still relatively concealed but also accessible.
If it didnt dig into my groin I'd actually prefer the front, cuz its harder for a ninja to access it and steal.

I just don't like the feel of those small pocket guns. Tried a few out (like the shield and sig p290) and it just felt like it wasn't secure in my hand or something. I enjoyed the compact m&p line up a bunch, and I will probably go for a M&P45c next winter or a sig p220 compact in .45

 

[z1ggy]

I prefer appendix carry, about the 1 o clock position...not sure how tht would feel with a full size but my 3" barrelled .45 sits there nicely even when I'm sitting or driving. Around back like you did works too bit drawing is a bit harder, appendix carry you can lift your shirt with your off hand while drawing which helps a ton.

Never tried that but I assume it would only work well with smaller fire arms.

I may need to look into pocket carry though because during the summer and sometimes even during colder months, I wear fairly tight fitted shirts ( gotta show the guns off ) and I feel like even with the small bersa .380 the profile of the firearm will show. Really don't want to have the cops called on me even though I won't be breaking the law.

A guy here in CT got arrested for some BS like that and got charged with disturbing the peace, all because dumb uneducated liberals don't know anything about the law or guns. Apparently the police don't either.

 

[shortylickens]

I have a P290, its not a pocket gun. Its subcompact to be sure, but it wont go in and out of any pocket easily.

And like any gun it takes practice. Since you are used to larger guns you assume thats whats normal.
Had you been brought up with pocket guns, you'd think they were normal.

This is unlikely as there werent many models until just recently. Theres also a new line of subcompacts from every brand because so many people dont care for the pocket guns.

 

[boomhower]

I carry at 4:30. As long as you make a decent effort to properly conceal know one if going to notice. By in large the American public is oblivious to what's going on around them.

 

[Jeeebus]

My pocket holster is incredibly stiff and it is a real bitch to pull the PM9 out. If it does not loosen up with use, will probably try a galco next.

 

[z1ggy]

I have a P290, its not a pocket gun. Its subcompact to be sure, but it wont go in and out of any pocket easily.

And like any gun it takes practice. Since you are used to larger guns you assume thats whats normal.
Had you been brought up with pocket guns, you'd think they were normal.

This is unlikely as there werent many models until just recently. Theres also a new line of subcompacts from every brand because so many people dont care for the pocket guns.

Couldn't imagine owning a gun smaller than the p290..If that's not pocket then I am not sure i'd want to carry pocket haha. If my gun accidentally shows for a second or somebody sees the profile, they can kiss my ass because I am not breaking the law. Hell I could carry open if I want (it's actually legal in CT) but I wouldn't dare bring that type of attention to myself.

Just won a NIB bersa 380 off gun broker. Horraaaaaaay.