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[velillen]

I plan to get a physical soon too, and have the lead levels checked since I also solder with lead solder. Also, Wade's ventilation system is REALLY screwed up for now.

On the reloading press, I find the Lee priming system the biggest fault - you pay more for the Dillon, but you get a system that to me seems simpler - load the primers into the tube, attach tube and go. I just need to get a good desk for my new apartment that I can bolt a press to and then get about reloading...

yeah i'd never thought about the lead from either reloading (lead bullets instead of jacketed) or just shooting. Especially 22lr. Its the only thing i can figure that would have caused my rise in levels. The lead i did handle at work was either RC shielding thats in protective sleeving and doesnt require any controls or its been in paint and i havent ate any paint recently Most likely its from 22lr.I know a couple times i could takes it and feel the smoke in my nose after rapid firing off 75-100 rounds fast as i could pull the trigger.

I prime on a lee 1000 (my case prep and priming setup, which i do while watching tv) and havent had any issues. Not to sure how well the turret's setup works. Dillons are nice machines thats for sure. They just dont suit my style of loading to be suitable or id be going for one too!

As for a bench, you could cheaply build one like i did for my living room for less than a hundred bucks. (2) 4x4x8's. Cut them to however high you want (33" is normal i think?), 2x4's cut to one 4' long and (2) at 2' 1.5". Then go to the like DIY shelving isle and pick up a 2'x4' 3/4" thick oak plywood. Thats what i've used for mine and its nice and solid. I added some cheap (want to say it was pine) wood around the edges of the table portion to keep things from rolling off the side and back.


O and on the dillon just note the 550b, 650xl, and 1050 all have funky mounting if you dont use their strong mount. Cant remember exactly what was needed if you dont use the mount just remember there was something

 

[adlep]

As far as loading goes, I knocked these out the other morning, 500 of them, and I am hoping to find time to load up another 500 tomorrow morning before work.

Would you consider selling some of your ammo? 200 for $100.00 + shipping?

 

[pontifex]

Would you consider selling some of your ammo? 200 for $100.00 + shipping?

pretty sure he already said he will not and it's illegal without a license.

 

[irishScott]

pretty sure he already said he will not and it's illegal without a license.

It's illegal to sell ammo privately? Since when? Sure you'd need hazmat shipping IIRC, but there's nothing illegal about it.

Unless you're in one of the retarded states I suppose.

 

[HumblePie]

It's illegal to sell ammo privately? Since when? Sure you'd need hazmat shipping IIRC, but there's nothing illegal about it.

Unless you're in one of the retarded states I suppose.

Reloaded ammo it is.

 

[BladeVenom]

Most likely its from 22lr.I know a couple times i could takes it and feel the smoke in my nose after rapid firing off 75-100 rounds fast as i could pull the trigger.

.22 rimfire uses a lot of primer, and it's usually lead styphanate.

 

[Phanuel]

Reloaded ammo it is.

Gray area I'd say. I personally don't want to buy reloads as I don't know what has gone into them and can't always be sure they won't malfunction in my firearms and damage them/me. Factory reloads are more consistent/less powerful on purpose. I know that I definitely can't run my rather hot .308 bolt gun reloads through a semi, I'd damage it.

Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

Source - http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html

 

[pontifex]

It's illegal to sell ammo privately? Since when? Sure you'd need hazmat shipping IIRC, but there's nothing illegal about it.

Unless you're in one of the retarded states I suppose.

You can sell commercial ammo just fine, just not reloads.

Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

Source - http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html

 

[corwin]

Gray area I'd say. I personally don't want to buy reloads as I don't know what has gone into them and can't always be sure they won't malfunction in my firearms and damage them/me. Factory reloads are more consistent/less powerful on purpose. I know that I definitely can't run my rather hot .308 bolt gun reloads through a semi, I'd damage it.

Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

Source - http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html

Doesn't seem to gray to me...personal use is pretty easy to determine, you use it so it's personal, selling in any way is "profit" even if you do it just once.

 

[pontifex]

Doesn't seem to gray to me...personal use is pretty easy to determine, you use it so it's personal, selling in any way is "profit" even if you do it just once.

agreed

 

[corwin]

agreed

Now I would think reselling factory ammo might be the gray area, would you need a business license?

 

[pontifex]

Now I would think reselling factory ammo might be the gray area, would you need a business license?

actually, not really sure on that either, but always see people selling factory all the time online. maybe if you're selling hundreds of thousands of rounds?


my understanding is that with reloads you are manufacturing the ammo. Plus there's the whole who knows if you did it properly question.

 

[corwin]

actually, not really sure on that either, but always see people selling factory all the time online. maybe if you're selling hundreds of thousands of rounds?

No clue myself...there's probably a line somewhere just don't know what it is.

my understanding is that with reloads you are manufacturing the ammo. Plus there's the whole who knows if you did it properly question.

Exactly, makes me wonder about the people at gun shows selling reloads and if they are licensed or not...I've heard of this at least, in all honesty I've never actually been to a gun show myself:\

 

[velillen]

No clue myself...there's probably a line somewhere just don't know what it is.

Selling factory ammo (or even legally purchased reloads) is perfectly legal. No requirements or license since the factory/person is licensed to make it. The only actual license related to ammo is ammo manufacturing. Selling commercial ammo is just fine as really its just another "good" you purchased.

Of course the person has to be over 18 and legally able to purchase ammo. Cant go sell it to some 13 year old or anything

Exactly, makes me wonder about the people at gun shows selling reloads and if they are licensed or not...I've heard of this at least, in all honesty I've never actually been to a gun show myself:\

Theres quite a few FFL 06 people out there so gun show reloads could be perfectly legal. I wont do it as its a bit annoying having ot get liability insurance (which ive read averages about 140 a month) plus tracking sales for the tax purposes. Unless your a high volume seller with good component sources its not worth it IMO.

There are however grey areas with reloads at gunshows. A seller can state these are for components only and are not to be used and well you are sort of only selling components then. Again thats a grey area and id definitely call it a very dark grey if it ever was challeneged but it does happen quite often.

 

[olds]

$800 for an AR, check stock

 

[adlep]

$800 for an AR, check stock

Seems like panic buying is dying down.

 

[Phoenix86]

Seems like panic buying is dying down.

"Product 'SW811036' is not available at this time."

 

[irishScott]

Seems like panic buying is dying down.

Oh it's dying down, there are just so many back-orders prices aren't going to follow for another year.

 

[velillen]

$800 for an AR, check stock

You could find good priced AR's during the panic so suddenly finding one now doesnt really mean anything.

Though stock on rifles should come back to normal in weeks/months since people can be smarter one purchases instead of panic buying.

Ammo/AR parts on the other hand could take months/year+ to come back. Between back orders and people still needing ammo itll stay in demand for awhile. AR parts like bolt carrier groups were hard to find prepanic so dont see them becoming easy ot find at prepanic prices anytime soon either.


Either way its a good start!

 

[corwin]

"Product 'SW811036' is not available at this time."

It was there earlier...but they do have 6 other S&W AR models available

 

[jpeyton]

Pour one out for our homies in Colorado tonight.

And keep your powder dry for 2014. It's time to vote these vermin out.

 

[NutBucket]

Would you consider selling some of your ammo? 200 for $100.00 + shipping?

$.50 for reloads? Might as well buy new!

 

[adairusmc]

$.50 for reloads? Might as well buy new!

Yeah, no kidding. Considering those cost me around .09 a round, that would be a huge markup.

And the answer is No, I would not sell any, for the reasons that everyone else posted and then some. Even if it were legal, I would not be comfortable selling my reloads in case there was a problem. I have given handfuls of them to friends and such who beg, but thats mostly so they can see how they shoot in their guns and possible duplicate my load data.

In other news, my local ace hardware got 20,000 rounds of blazer brass 9mm in and 20,000 rounds of winchester white box 9mm in stock a couple of days ago, so locally we are set for a while at least.

 

[corwin]

Yeah, no kidding. Considering those cost me around .09 a round, that would be a huge markup.

And the answer is No, I would not sell any, for the reasons that everyone else posted and then some. Even if it were legal, I would not be comfortable selling my reloads in case there was a problem. I have given handfuls of them to friends and such who beg, but thats mostly so they can see how they shoot in their guns and possible duplicate my load data.

In other news, my local ace hardware got 20,000 rounds of blazer brass 9mm in and 20,000 rounds of winchester white box 9mm in stock a couple of days ago, so locally we are set for a while at least.

Damn, your ace hardware sells ammo? Never seen that before...

 

[NutBucket]

I suppose I should specify $.50 for 9mm reloads is crazy. I haven't been to the range in a while and don't even want to know what they're charging for reloads. But, shop around some and be patient. I recently scored 357mag and 45acp for $.50 a round for standard FMJ stuff. Not complaining.