YAGT: OMG I love guns

[ManBearPig]

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[HumblePie]

Can you post some pics of your knives/swords please? Some blades are pretty interesting.

Sure, but I don't want to hijack the thread too much. I haven't taken many recent pics, so quite a bit of my collection aren't photographed yet. Here is one I took and posted to these boards about a year back or two.

I also have several more swords and such that I picked up since that picture. Some of them very expensive ones I got from Fable Blades armory down in Australia. Here are some links to the two blades I picked up from there...

http://www.fableblades.com/Aphrodite.html
http://www.fableblades.com/Wolf.html

They were about $2200 or so each I think. I also have some Valiant arms swords. Good stuff at a decent price range. Everything I bought sword wise is a real "battle ready" function sword. Good steel, great craftsmanship, and can be used for actual combat if needed. Not that I'll ever do that with them. Oh, and I picked up a Ronin Dojo Elite too. Beautiful katana for about $900. My swords range in price from Windlass and other "cheaper" sword makes of about $100 on up to my two prized beauties that I showed earlier.

As far as knives go, I'm a bit on the cheapy side for collecting purposes. To me I find swords to be works of art, albeit functional pieces, that are great to display on the wall. Knives, while they are as beautiful and can cost as much, just don't capture in my mind the same attention. Although I do like them, but I like to use knives. So I doubt I'll ever buy a $500+ knife like I have with my swords. No matter how beautiful, they just don't take up the same amount of decorating space for the price

Still, I've been in to collecting the best bang for the buck folding knives as of late. Which means actual good quality chinese knives believe it or not. I am pretty much sticking with Ganzo, Enlan, Sanrenmu, Navy, Kevin John, Wild Boar, and Inron knives from there. These are awesome knives for the prices. Typical prices range from $8-$20 shipped for a knife. All of which are either 8cr13mov, 9cr13mov, 440C, Sandvik 14CN28 (chinese call this one also their "D2"), or S35VN steels.

I do have a few Zero Tolerance blades that I picked up when they went on sale in the $60 price range. Much better than the average $200 range they go for. I also have a couple of Cold Steel folders too like the Voyager and Espada. Really I have too many to list. However, if you want to know my favorite out of what I have then here is that list.

For small folders these are my top 3:
Sanrenmu 763
Camillus Carbontride this one was on clearance at walmart for $25 a pop and I grabbed 5 of them.
Sanrenmu 710

For my bigger folding knives this is my top 3:
Zero Tolerance ZT0700 this knife is discontinued so prices on where it is still in stock are pretty cheap.
Ganzo G704
Ganzo G710 or maybe the Enlan EL01 or both for third! Seriously hard to pick a third place

So why do I like those cheapie knives? Well, they are cheap! Ok, that is not the only reason. They are great at what they are designed to do. There are more expensive and exotic steels that hold an edge a bit longer, or a slightly finer one. However, 440C or the chinese equivalent with 8cr13mov can take a razor's edge and keep it for a decently long time. It has slightly better corrosion resistance than those harder steels, and I don't care if one of the knives breaks that I paid $10 or so for. Not that any of my knives have broken. There are tons of youtube video with torture tests on those inexpensive knives by those chinese manufacturers I mentioned. Those same tests compare them to much more expensive knives and the chinese ones hold up damn near as well. At least those brands do. Try to stay away from the gaudy chinese crap though. That stuff is pure shit.

I also own quite a few of the "cheaper" US brands like Kershaw and SOG. There are some great knives they make, but you are paying a premium because of them being US and more "established" companies. Despite those mostly coming out of the same factories in China. Sanrenmu makes the vast majority of those knives for many US companies like Kershaw and Spyderco.

 

[boomhower]

LGS got this shipment yesterday:

I'm betting 5.56 is stamped on the barrel. I've never seen a 6920 that was an actual 223 rifle.

 

[shortylickens]

Look upwards in the. Some of them are exactly the same except they say 5.56.

 

[desertdweller]

The few times I've been in the woods, it's been great. But it's also been a "get the friend with AWD to take us up, fire some and run before park rangers show up" because of the insanely stupid rules around I90 (and the shooting we did followed ALL their guidelines, but they still give federal tickets. So rarely do I go into the woods.

I'm bored to tears of shooting paper. Hell, I'd shoot paper at 300m right now if I could, I've never sighted my Mk14 or AR15 in properly, and would love to sight in at 100m then try at 300...but no good ranges nearby let me do that unless I either go on a waiting list, or drive more than an hour (or follow rules like 5 round magazines only, 1 round loaded only and so forth.) I think I've realized I spent somewhere around 3800 on that Mk14 (scope, stock, gun and all) and 2800 or so on the AR15 (the ACOG cost as much as the gun) and knowing that at this moment I could sell and MAKE money on that....is too enticing.

It doesn't help I want to get into astrophotography, and an Astrotrac alone to use with my D7000 is going to run me close to $1k, and a proper mount, telescope, tracking telescope and all will probably run me 2-3k when I buy it next year. I could afford it already, but....well, I'd like to own a house sometime this millennia.

I just don't see the money I put into guns being worth it. Even if I go to the woods, I shoot some and go home. I take nothing home with me, I accomplish nothing really, and at a huge cost. If I get into astrophotography, I spend as much time on it camping out at night taking shots, and I (hopefully) leave with some amazing shots of the night sky and deep field objects.

This is why I've never bought a rifle. Every now and then I get the urge so I borrow a friend's. We go shooting and I'm over it in about half an hour. I'm not interested in hunting, so, no rifle for me.

My pistols, however, I love to shoot. I have somewhere between $2500 and $3000 in my 1911 setup, but, I use it almost every Saturday. I don't consider it money wasted. I love the competitions, it's fast, it's all about technique and competition is very tight. At least where I shoot. Plus, there are local matches almost every Saturday morning. It's not for everyone, but, you should consider looking into it.

I also have a shotgun for shooting clays. Mostly Trap and Sporting Clays. That's a lot of fun too, but, much slower and more relaxed.

 

[pcslookout]

I love guns because gay people can protect themselves from all the loonies.

They need a lot of protection from their family after all. If I had a gay family member I would protect them with my life.

 

[exdeath]

Guns are non depreciating assets. That may help to take the plunge.

If you aren't retarded and dont over pay some gouging reseller asshole who camps Walmart every day to buy the same gun over and over to flip on Gunbroker, you still have just as much "money" before and after a gun purchase .

 

[NutBucket]

Yep, definitely this. Also helps to not buy crap guns

 

[IGemini]

I've never sighted my Mk14 or AR15 in properly, and would love to sight in at 100m then try at 300...

Isn't it 25m that shares the same POI as 300m? Or does your AR have something other than a 16" barrel?

 

[Tiamat]

Posted my P226 up to try and get a trade for an AR or .357 mag revolver. I love it but I just want more variety in my collection.

Love my limited run p226 equinox 9mm but my s&w 686+ certainly turns heads at the local range when shooting 357 mags!

 

[exdeath]

A 50-225 zero is much better for 16" barreled 5.56mm. Takes advantage of the flat trajectory of the cartridge so that the point of impact is going to be + or - <= 2 inches or so from your point of aim all the way out to 225. The cartridge is inadequate much beyond that range anyway out of a short barrel. Its perfect for CQB with 50-225 zero, you'll always hit a 4 inch circle about your point of aim with no elevation changes for the entire effective range of the weapon system.

I wouldn't bother with 300+ unless you have a 20"+ barrel.

 

[boomhower]

A 50-225 zero is much better for 16" barreled 5.56mm. Takes advantage of the flat trajectory of the cartridge so that the point of impact is going to be + or - <= 2 inches or so from your point of aim all the way out to 225. The cartridge is inadequate much beyond that range anyway out of a short barrel. Its perfect for CQB with 50-225 zero, you'll always hit a 4 inch circle about your point of aim with no elevation changes for the entire effective range of the weapon system.

I wouldn't bother with 300+ unless you have a 20"+ barrel.

+1. If your wanting to shoot 300+ I'd go with a bigger caliber. 556 is certainly capable of being accurate out to 600m or so but if it's far from the ideal distance caliber.

 

[exdeath]

+1. If your wanting to shoot 300+ I'd go with a bigger caliber. 556 is certainly capable of being accurate out to 600m or so but if it's far from the ideal distance caliber.

Heh 600 m = hold over 65-75 inches , hold left/right 65-75 yards.

 

[exdeath]

Aimpoint Pro + Midwest Industries scope rail + ATI universal cheekrest for the Arsenal SAM7R.

Cheek rest is just a rubber block I intend on sticking on with some auto body trim tape. No stock options for Bulgarian milled receivers,may have to machine my own aluminum adapter block for AR buffer tube style stocks. Problem is it has a very steep lower tang AND the rear of the receiver is sloped.

Don't know why, 7.62x39 ballistics suck but I'm in love with this AK as much as any AR. Hogue 74000 AK grip, Bulgarian Circle 10 poly waffle mil surp mags, its amazing just to hold it.

I've also found it difficult to find a rubber butt pad I like for the tiny 4" butt plate that AKs have. There are some, but the 2 screw holes on this are wider apart than a standard AK like a WASR. Not for recoil, just the smooth polished painted surface of the stock one is very slippery. I might just have to bead blast the metal plate and coat it with some spray on rubber, should do the trick.

I intend on adding a SGL-31 too with how 5.45x39 is everywhere and cheap now. So at least Ill have a quality stamped receiver that wont be such a prima donna.

 

[exdeath]

 

[RampantAndroid]

Isn't it 25m that shares the same POI as 300m? Or does your AR have something other than a 16" barrel?

I've got an ACOG on it that is supposed to be sighted in at 100M so you can actually use the various markings on it (I have the chevron with all of the army markings) - not sure about the POI, but it's a basic 16" barrel (1:8 twist, if that makes any difference.)

 

[irishScott]

Nutnfancy Reviews the Tavor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxCuDtQW3nw

Yeah... I'm getting one of these.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[velillen]

Nutnfancy Reviews the Tavor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxCuDtQW3nw

Yeah... I'm getting one of these.

Ive heard to many mixed reviews on them to want one. Good battle rifles but not impressive for shooting groups, shit trigger, heavy, and a couple other things.

Not sure what nutnfancy covered since i wont watch his hour long videos for the 5 minutes of info he provides

 

[HumblePie]

Humblepie, thanks for sharing the knives! I wouldnt mind getting a little knife. Do a lot of people carry knives? Seems like it could come in handy for a lot of situations. I like the samurai swords the best. Not so much a fan of the more eccentric ones, though! I always told myself if i ever got rich i'd buy a real samurai sword. Still hasnt happened yet.

I have a few katanas. The cheapest one I own is surprisingly VERY good quality for what it is. I own a SBG exclusive Kuramono katana, as well as the Ronin Dojo Elite. Those are a bit pricer blades, but exceptional. The cheap one I highly recommend to anyone wanting to get an actual GOOD katana for their first one. Here is a link to it.

http://www.swordnarmory.com/Red-Handmade-Musashi-Forge-Folded-Katana-Samurai-S-p/ss-1144rd.htm

For $179 shipped it's a hard price to beat for how nice of a katana you get.

If you want a decent katana, a munetoshi brand version typically goes for under $100 and are very nice functional blades for the cost.



As for gun topic. Looks like I get some extra money from my legal battle to find a new toy with

 

[irishScott]

Ive heard to many mixed reviews on them to want one. Good battle rifles but not impressive for shooting groups, shit trigger, heavy, and a couple other things.

Not sure what nutnfancy covered since i wont watch his hour long videos for the 5 minutes of info he provides

He was getting 1 MOA groups. *shrug*

Yeah he went on about the trigger, was iffy on the weight. It's 8.2 lbs as he has it loaded IIRC but apparently the weight distribution makes it feel much lighter than an 8.2 lb AR or AK.

Reliability was damn near 100% for over a thousand rounds fired.

I'm sold. Plus it's the main service weapon of the IDF and is combat-proven. I doubt I'll ever have a practical use for it outside of the zombie apocalypse, but hey, why not?

 

[ManBearPig]

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[HumblePie]

Thanks for the info! That would be cool to own, isnt too expensive either. I wonder how much it costs to have one of those swordsmiths make one. Totally gonna do it when i get my job.

How much money did dicks give you?!

Not 100% sure yet. My attorney called and said that their attorney called and agreed to the original demand letter, but he said he was going to see what else more he can get since the demand letter did state that if we had to file and take it to court we would seek full damages. He said he was going to see if he could get something in between from the demand letter and what we could have won in court.

 

[velillen]

Finally got ot go to the rifle range after a couple months and plenty of new rifles. First real nice day since ive been home (70's and sunny in WA!)

I brought my Marlin 1895, my built ar-15, and my 308. Plus two pistols.

The marlin 1895 i only shot 12 rounds. Thing packs a nice punch and anymore i thought would wear out my shoulder to make my other rifles no fun. I could have manned up and shot more but hey i am a smaller guy so wear out faster than bigger guys. Already ordered a limbsaver for it which ive read helps a ton. But iron sights at 100 yards and my first time shooting it i was able to put 6 rounds on a 8" target with no real rest...just my elbow on the bench. Nothing to brag about but i thought it was good especially with no scope and no spotting scope to even be able to see if i was hitting the target! Definitely a fun gun to shoot. Already ordered a DNZ scope mount for a 3-9 scope i have at home. For 100 yards irons arent bad but i want to take it further (hell a 45-70 is good to 2 miles after all!)

My ar-15 i only put 30 rounds through. I had a guy sitting next to me and the brass was being flung at him. Tried my utg "brass catcher" to prevent that and it helped but it wasnt perfect. Ended up working more like a deflector than anything with brass either just falling to just getting stuck in the "mouth" of the bag. Still nice to not have brass flying 15 feet away. But again i was shooting iron sights and tried out my eotech. But with no scope nearby i wasnt able to see if i was hitting the target or not (i did but it was spread all over the place). More wanted ot just make sure the damn thing worked since i built it haha.

My last rifle was my savage 10. Only got to fire 10 rounds but it shot nice. Didnt really get it sighted in as i was a bit rushed and just wanted to shoot it more than anything. Which is a bit disappointing since this was my only rifle with an actual scope that i could see where i was shooting (and also when i saw i actually hit the target with my other two rifles). I found i liked the trigger on this rifle for sure though!


After all that went to the pistol range. My dad had a apex trigger kit installed in his mp45 so we tried that and wow what a difference that makes. His shooting greatly improved which was awesome to see. I shot 10 rounds and liked it enough to decide ill be doing something ot my RIA, FN, and 226 in the near future.

But biggest thing was to try the osprey 45. And have to say wow i am impressed! It was nice and quiet. Fun to shoot too! but when i went to try it on my 226 i had issues. Was going ot use up the last of my 9mm pmc 115 factory which turned out to be...interesting. New OEM threaded barrel. Unsuppressed it shot great. Same as with the factory unthreaded barrel. But soon as i put the can one...problems. First round fired fine. Next round fired and the case stove piped. Cleared it and conitinued and had the same problems after each shot. Either stove piped or had misfeed issues. Now this gun has fired 900 rounds of this same PMC ammo flawlessly before so has something to do with the suppressor.

Of course i didnt bring any other 9mm ammo so i am hoping my reloads work better. Might have to try 147gr too but i havent reloaded any for that yet and dont want to shoot my factory 147's if i can help it.

 

[etrigan420]

Finally got ot go to the rifle range after a couple months and plenty of new rifles. First real nice day since ive been home (70's and sunny in WA!)

I brought my Marlin 1895, my built ar-15, and my 308. Plus two pistols.

The marlin 1895 i only shot 12 rounds. Thing packs a nice punch and anymore i thought would wear out my shoulder to make my other rifles no fun. I could have manned up and shot more but hey i am a smaller guy so wear out faster than bigger guys. Already ordered a limbsaver for it which ive read helps a ton. But iron sights at 100 yards and my first time shooting it i was able to put 6 rounds on a 8" target with no real rest...just my elbow on the bench. Nothing to brag about but i thought it was good especially with no scope and no spotting scope to even be able to see if i was hitting the target! Definitely a fun gun to shoot. Already ordered a DNZ scope mount for a 3-9 scope i have at home. For 100 yards irons arent bad but i want to take it further (hell a 45-70 is good to 2 miles after all!)

My ar-15 i only put 30 rounds through. I had a guy sitting next to me and the brass was being flung at him. Tried my utg "brass catcher" to prevent that and it helped but it wasnt perfect. Ended up working more like a deflector than anything with brass either just falling to just getting stuck in the "mouth" of the bag. Still nice to not have brass flying 15 feet away. But again i was shooting iron sights and tried out my eotech. But with no scope nearby i wasnt able to see if i was hitting the target or not (i did but it was spread all over the place). More wanted ot just make sure the damn thing worked since i built it haha.

My last rifle was my savage 10. Only got to fire 10 rounds but it shot nice. Didnt really get it sighted in as i was a bit rushed and just wanted to shoot it more than anything. Which is a bit disappointing since this was my only rifle with an actual scope that i could see where i was shooting (and also when i saw i actually hit the target with my other two rifles). I found i liked the trigger on this rifle for sure though!


After all that went to the pistol range. My dad had a apex trigger kit installed in his mp45 so we tried that and wow what a difference that makes. His shooting greatly improved which was awesome to see. I shot 10 rounds and liked it enough to decide ill be doing something ot my RIA, FN, and 226 in the near future.

But biggest thing was to try the osprey 45. And have to say wow i am impressed! It was nice and quiet. Fun to shoot too! but when i went to try it on my 226 i had issues. Was going ot use up the last of my 9mm pmc 115 factory which turned out to be...interesting. New OEM threaded barrel. Unsuppressed it shot great. Same as with the factory unthreaded barrel. But soon as i put the can one...problems. First round fired fine. Next round fired and the case stove piped. Cleared it and conitinued and had the same problems after each shot. Either stove piped or had misfeed issues. Now this gun has fired 900 rounds of this same PMC ammo flawlessly before so has something to do with the suppressor.

Of course i didnt bring any other 9mm ammo so i am hoping my reloads work better. Might have to try 147gr too but i havent reloaded any for that yet and dont want to shoot my factory 147's if i can help it.

Sounds like a good time. The weather up here is certainly conducive to the past time!

Took the 6 year old up to Plantation Rifle Range today (Whatcom Co.), and surprisingly, we were the only ones on the pistol/.22 rifle range.

As for the suppressor...IIRC Osprey's come with a booster device, right? I would suggest starting with a lighter recoil spring, as it sounds like the back pressure is trying to cycle the gun too fast, and closing the chamber before the spent casing has a chance to be ejected. I'm no expert, but that's where I'd start.

Good luck man. Hopefully this weather sticks around for a bit!