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Genx87

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It is but can certainly vary with location. Also depends on what you want. If your looking at the cheaper end it'll be harder to find but the more expensive your looking the easier it will be to find. i.e. an M&P 10 will be a challenge but an SR25 shouldn't be to bad to find.

DPMS Tac 20 or MK12 is on my list. That M&P-10 looks pretty solid as well. I have had the M&P-15t since 08. But trying not to corner myself into S&W. My 1911 is S&W and plan on getting a weighted .44 mag from them at some point. Like to try other brands.
 

adairusmc

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Speaking of blades, my T-Hawk showed up today. I really like it, the grip is awesome, and the weight is a lot less than I thought it would be. Razor sharp too. Looks like it will be good for chopping kindling and tweakers alike.



 

velillen

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So i have a question for ya guys, its sort of inspired from exdeath in the ammo thread...

But do you keep all your mags loaded with ammo? or just the couple you actually use?

I personally find i only use 3 or 4 mags and outside of my carry gun and HD gun the mags stay empty till i go to the range (carry gun and HD gun both have 2 loaded mags, XDs 2 7 rounders, fnp-45 2 15 rounders loaded with 12 each). Even out of the 4 or so i have for each gun i generally only use two when going to the range so those four sort of get cycled. I could easily load up my pistol mags with ammo. But rifle wise i just cant see having 1k in 223 in magazines just sitting there.

Even the guys I know who shoot competition only load up their mags at the range most of the time.

So what do you guys do? Load them all and keep them loaded? Load only a few? Or load only when they are going ot be used?
 

adairusmc

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I keep most of mine loaded. I have a reserve of new in package mags stored in several 20mm ammo cans that don't get used or loaded, but of the mags tat I do use - I always load them up after a shooting trip when I am cleaning guns.

I think right now I have 20 or so AR mags, 20 beretta 92 mags, 10 10/22 mags, 10 m1a mags, maybe 5 mags for most other things, all loaded and ready. I also keep the speedloaders for my revolvers loaded all the time too.
 

Skel

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I have my carry/safe in bedroom loaded but don't keep any of the other mags/weapons loaded. I load them at the range when their needed. I don't foresee myself in some odd firefight where I'd need more than one mag, but that's me.
 

velillen

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I keep most of mine loaded. I have a reserve of new in package mags stored in several 20mm ammo cans that don't get used or loaded, but of the mags tat I do use - I always load them up after a shooting trip when I am cleaning guns.

I think right now I have 20 or so AR mags, 20 beretta 92 mags, 10 10/22 mags, 10 m1a mags, maybe 5 mags for most other things, all loaded and ready. I also keep the speedloaders for my revolvers loaded all the time too.

Any particular reason you keep them loaded though? Guess thats what ive never quite seen advantage for. Why keep them all loaded all the time? I can understand right before you go to the range and for guns youd actually use in self defense at home but why do every single one? Just curious
 

Merad

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Other than my 2 carry guns I only keep a few mags loaded for the AK, "just in case".
 

adairusmc

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Any particular reason you keep them loaded though? Guess thats what ive never quite seen advantage for. Why keep them all loaded all the time? I can understand right before you go to the range and for guns youd actually use in self defense at home but why do every single one? Just curious

Because then I don't have to load them later. It does not hurt them to keep them loaded, and they aren't doing anyone any good just sitting around unloaded, so why not?

I don't shoot at ranges either, and I sometimes just decide I am going to go shooting if I want to, so I don't make big planned trips to ranges. I may just decide I want to shoot a particular gun and I don't want to sit there having to load up mags if that is the case.
 

exdeath

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So i have a question for ya guys, its sort of inspired from exdeath in the ammo thread...

But do you keep all your mags loaded with ammo? or just the couple you actually use?

I personally find i only use 3 or 4 mags and outside of my carry gun and HD gun the mags stay empty till i go to the range (carry gun and HD gun both have 2 loaded mags, XDs 2 7 rounders, fnp-45 2 15 rounders loaded with 12 each). Even out of the 4 or so i have for each gun i generally only use two when going to the range so those four sort of get cycled. I could easily load up my pistol mags with ammo. But rifle wise i just cant see having 1k in 223 in magazines just sitting there.

Even the guys I know who shoot competition only load up their mags at the range most of the time.

So what do you guys do? Load them all and keep them loaded? Load only a few? Or load only when they are going ot be used?

Because 50 unloaded mags and 1500 rds of ammo take up 2-3 times the space as 50 loaded mags and a flattened box or two to identify ammo manufacturer and lot #s.

Some 20 rd boxes of commercial ammo are twice the size of a 30 rd magazine.

Much nicer to just pick up a fat 50 can in one hand with 30 loaded pmags and 900 rds or 18 AK mags and 540 rds ready to go nice and compact like.

Why so many mags? After the last ban sunset and before Nov/Dec '12 I didn't care, but now I've resolved to NEVER give a fuck about not being able to get something due to pending gun legislation for now and forever.

Im known for my 900 megaton nuclear bomb approach to solving problems once and for all.
 
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Svnla

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Merad

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Stopped by a pawn shop yesterday, left with a few new toys:

Ruger New Model Blackhawk .357 Mag


Gen 2 Glock 17


Only 30%? Did not know it was that low.

I thought it was much lower than that. More like 5%, I want to say, when you average out all rounds fired by cops.

Think for example about the 2 old ladies whose truck was shot up in the Dorner manhunt. IIRC 100+ rounds were fired at them but both survived with relatively minor injuries. And they weren't even shooting back...
 

velillen

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Congrats on the Ruger Merad! been thinking of picking one up myself but i just enjoy the S&W's to much. As for the glock...good score, not my cup of tea though. Happiest day gun wise was when i sold my glock 20


As for me, got to the range again today. light rain and it was just my dad and I on the 100 yard line the whole time we were there which was nice.

Fired my 300blk for the first time. Put a primary arms 1-4 scope on it. My five shot groups were averaging 1.5 moa which for only 100 rounds through it and them being freedom munitions reloads i was happy with that! Especially since i built it myself. I know its capable of better than that too. It can be a 1moa or better rifle once i reload for it and get used to it more. Not bad for a sub 1k AR (optics included)

Also played with my savage 308 more. Was shooting pretty much MOA with it with just hornady 168gr ammo. Kept pulling one shot least a bit so i know its capable of even better.

Seeing as this is only really my second time out shooting rifles in 10 years or so, im more than happy with how well i was shooting! I know 100 yards isnt naything to brag about but still felt good hitting the target and getting groups that small
 

Tiamat

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MrPickins

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The anti gun folks are going to paint that as a killing machine. While the gun probably corrects for distance and wind, the shooter would still have to do their part and not jerk the trigger. Trigger control takes skill and practice...

IIRC, you hold the trigger down and the rifle fires when you're targeted correctly.
 

IGemini

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IIRC, you hold the trigger down and the rifle fires when you're targeted correctly.

This, the computer is also a fire control system. The trigger does little more than giving the command to fire, but the computer delays before releasing the firing pin. It's the one concept I don't like about the platform, takes out too much of the human element.
 

velillen

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This, the computer is also a fire control system. The trigger does little more than giving the command to fire, but the computer delays before releasing the firing pin. It's the one concept I don't like about the platform, takes out too much of the human element.

Thats exactly how i feel. Cool you can make some awesome shots. But its not really the shooter making them but rather the computer. I might not be the best shot in the world or anything but part of the fun of shooting for me is hitting the target myself. And now its hitting the target and making smaller groups. I dont want a rifle i just put on target and pull the trigger and dont have ot think anything about it.
 

irishScott

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This, the computer is also a fire control system. The trigger does little more than giving the command to fire, but the computer delays before releasing the firing pin. It's the one concept I don't like about the platform, takes out too much of the human element.

Lol, just wait until we get an efficient-enough power source to start making portable power armor. Not even talking iron-man, just a bulletproof, blast-resistant exoskeleton. Strap a few of these smart guns on there....
 

Merad

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Will be interesting to see what happens with the Tracking Point rifles. If they really do enable essentially anyone to pick them and make accurate 1000+ yd shots I wouldn't be surprised if they're banned in short order.
 

irishScott

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Will be interesting to see what happens with the Tracking Point rifles. If they really do enable essentially anyone to pick them and make accurate 1000+ yd shots I wouldn't be surprised if they're banned in short order.

The Barrett BORS system has been around for years and hasn't been banned yet.
http://www.barrett.net/optics/bors

While it's certainly not as intuitive as the tracking point, and is just a computerized scope attachment, it can certainly turn a mediocre shooter into a precision marksman, and is about 10% the cost.

Of course, it also doesn't make headlines.
 

IEC

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Neither BORS or the new "Linux" rifle correct for wind. Which is the hardest part of making shots out to 1000yd and beyond.

In other words, will not make a precision marksman out of a n00b.
 

Merad

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The Barrett BORS system has been around for years and hasn't been banned yet.
http://www.barrett.net/optics/bors

While it's certainly not as intuitive as the tracking point, and is just a computerized scope attachment, it can certainly turn a mediocre shooter into a precision marksman, and is about 10% the cost.

Unless I'm missing something on the Barrett system I don't think they're very comparable? The Barrett doesn't really do anything to improve your shooting, it just tells you what elevation adjustments. The Tracking Point scope gives you a perfect range to target, shows you where to point the rifle to hit the target and releases the round for you. In theory it looks essentially idiot proof other than having to manually enter wind velocity.
 
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