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corwin

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Anybody identify these?
I'll add a couple more you missed...



The flechette and the Glaser are the only exotics in your pics I picked out directly...well and the basic (.45?) fmj at the bottom
The one with the blue polymer tip is a Glaser Safety Slug. They're available for sale to public and were (are?) used by Air Marshalls. The one next to it looks like a .223 Winchester Super Short Magnum, or something similar:
My wife keeps a 9mm loaded with Glaser's too...penetration is an issue but living in a warmer climate the target isn't likely to be wearing heavy clothing that would make it an issue...that little one could also be a .22 TCM, I love shooting mine
 

velillen

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$20K a round?

For a 20mm gun its expensive. A round of 20mm "practice" ammo is somewhere around 10 bucks a shot (approx).

Real 20mm vulcan rounds are considered a destructive device (duh?) and require a 200 buck stamp to go with them. Good luck getting them anyways though.
 

marvdmartian

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Went out and started dialing in the scope on my new .308 rifle (Ruger American) this morning. Shot through a box of 9mm too, just for the hell of it (nice to have ammo available again!). By 10AM, though, it was getting hot, and I was getting parched, so I called it a day.

The zombies, however, didn't have such a great day! LOL

 

velillen

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I got out shooting with dad and brother yesterday. Fun day at the range and seems like the load i worked up for my Savage is doing great! Had two of the ebst groups ive personally shot so far.

First a 3 shot group at 100 yards



Then my best 3 shot group at 200 yards.



Even the rest were decent groups for me. at 100 yards i was averaging a 1.1 inch group and at 200 yards i was averaging a 1.75 inch group.

Course then i went to pistols and was horrendous. But i havent shot any pistol in probably 2-3 months. Still got to keep practicing with everything.
 
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Svnla

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I went to the gun show in Fort Worth TX today because it was right across from the Museum of History and Science in which I got a free ticket because of BoA credit card.

Holy smoke, talk about guns and guns, and more guns and more accessories and stuffs. Guns, ammo, hi cap magazines, holsters, belts, even stuffs for preppers. The area was full of vendors and visitors. Ticket was $8 per adult.

I saw so many guns, even a Barnett 50. I did look at these two small guns: S&W Shield 9mm was about $500 but the Beretta Nano 9mm was $100 cheaper. Not sure why. I did like the .380 handguns the most because they were compact and light plus not expensive but bullets were kinda small from my research.

No pics because pictures and video were not allowed.
 
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alkemyst

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I went to the gun show in Fort Worth TX today because it was right across from the Museum of History and Science in which I got a free ticket because of BoA credit card.

Holy smoke, talk about guns and guns, and more guns and more accessories and stuffs. Guns, ammo, hi cap magazines, holsters, belts, even stuffs for preppers. The area was full of vendors and visitors. Ticket was $8 per adult.

I saw so many guns, even a Barnett 50. I did look at these two small guns: S&W Shield 9mm was about $500 but the Beretta Nano 9mm was $100 cheaper. Not sure why. I did like the .380 handguns the most because they were compact and light plus not expensive but bullets were kinda small from my research.

No pics because pictures and video were not allowed.

Not sure why you felt so much concern to validate going to a museum...most gun shows are like this.
 

Bartman39

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Went to the range today with my AR-50A1 and shot about 30 rounds of a few different types some once fired brass with API bullets and some new brass with API as well ... Then tried some PMC bronze new stuff and whats funny the once fired brass shot the best at 200 yards...? Good load I guess...? It was hot and I did not let the barrel cool much and during range breaks I had to put the weapon in the sun too (to big for the rack in the shade)... But numbers 1, 2 & 3 were the once fired brass with API's... Numbers 4 & 5 were PMC bronze (660grain ball) and 6 & 7 were new brass with API's...
The other 20 some odd rounds were shot at 100 yards and 4 or 5 were needed to get it dead on and had several center punches but that was expected... Even my wife shot it today too :thumbsup: (plus a few friends) was a lot of fun and cleaned the roof and floor of the range bench area :biggrin:...

200 yard pic... (have some 600+ yard targets we shot somewhere...? Not much different too)


I went to the gun show in Fort Worth TX today because it was right across from the Museum of History and Science in which I got a free ticket because of BoA credit card.
Got a buddy that goes to any and every gun show that is even close to him... Whats funny is he always and I mean always wins a door prize of some sort... He has won shot guns, 22's even a 45 cal one time besides all the gear and ammo galore just lucky I guess... Bad thing is here lately most of the shows are not giving away much but he still wins crap...
 
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velillen

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Got my press set up yesterday and reloaded my first rounds:





Man i remember when my lee turret was that clean! Awesome press for the money and itll last ya forever. Though i use mine just for bullet seating and crimping on pistol and dont use the auto indexing portion. nor the powder through expander or priming haha. Sizing, belling, and priming is done on a lee 1000 pro progressive for pistol. Rifle is hand primed and sized on the turret.

What ya loading though! Cant tease and leave us guessing your loads!


I went to the gun show in Fort Worth TX today because it was right across from the Museum of History and Science in which I got a free ticket because of BoA credit card.

Holy smoke, talk about guns and guns, and more guns and more accessories and stuffs. Guns, ammo, hi cap magazines, holsters, belts, even stuffs for preppers. The area was full of vendors and visitors. Ticket was $8 per adult.

I saw so many guns, even a Barnett 50. I did look at these two small guns: S&W Shield 9mm was about $500 but the Beretta Nano 9mm was $100 cheaper. Not sure why. I did like the .380 handguns the most because they were compact and light plus not expensive but bullets were kinda small from my research.

No pics because pictures and video were not allowed.


Just dont go to a "gun show" in Cali after going to any other gun show in any other non communist state. 15 bucks i think it was when i went to one when i was there for work. Seriously should not have been called a gun show. In total there were probably all of 15 guns total for sale. Some AR uppers and thats it gun wise. Two vendors selling ammo and like two selling magazines. The rest of the show was knives, chinese knockoff scopes, and "tactical" gear. I never wanted my money back so bad lol.

As for the SW Shield...the 9mm is still in high demand so they guy was selling it above MSRP. Probably had it sell as well. The Nano's ive seen at most LGS's around here so they sell at or below MSRP. So thats why there was the price difference
 

Merad

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That is pretty cool. Make a video plz.

I suck at videos but here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaY8XDSkLc

Man i remember when my lee turret was that clean! Awesome press for the money and itll last ya forever. Though i use mine just for bullet seating and crimping on pistol and dont use the auto indexing portion. nor the powder through expander or priming haha. Sizing, belling, and priming is done on a lee 1000 pro progressive for pistol. Rifle is hand primed and sized on the turret.

It seems a bit finnicky but I like it overall. Haven't figured out yet if there's some trick to making the powder measure give consistent results, I was getting charges that varied by as much as 0.3 gr! And I need to learn to work the primer feed with my left hand. But still, I was able to do 50 rounds in about an hour today (with some interruptions and screw ups), not bad for day 3 I guess.

Why don't you do the seating and crimping on the progressive?

What ya loading though! Cant tease and leave us guessing your loads!

All I had time to play with was a simple .38 target load:

158 gr LSWC
3.2-3.5 gr Titegroup (see about about the charge variation :|)
CCI 550 primer
1.49" OAL
 

shortylickens

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WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE STOCKPILING 380!??!



Do you honestly think that shit will punch through a chinese APC?

MORON!

Quit hoarding bullets you dont fucking need!
 

velillen

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I suck at videos but here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaY8XDSkLc



It seems a bit finnicky but I like it overall. Haven't figured out yet if there's some trick to making the powder measure give consistent results, I was getting charges that varied by as much as 0.3 gr! And I need to learn to work the primer feed with my left hand. But still, I was able to do 50 rounds in about an hour today (with some interruptions and screw ups), not bad for day 3 I guess.

Why don't you do the seating and crimping on the progressive?



All I had time to play with was a simple .38 target load:

158 gr LSWC
3.2-3.5 gr Titegroup (see about about the charge variation :|)
CCI 550 primer
1.49" OAL

The lee should be better than that. Did you do as they recommend and put like three pounds worth of powder through it first?

I don't use the progressive cause that's not my style of loading. I tend to load 50-100 at a time and then ill switch caliber. I basically reload what I shoot. The progressive I use for priming and the such then those cases sit in my ready to load bin. After shooting for a day ill usually load up a 100 quickly to replenish the ammo can. It's just way easier for me to use the rcbs uniflow and loading trays than to do it on the progressive.

Like I said just my style of reloading. Break up the case prep and the loading. Reload in small batches as I need to and since I reload for every caliber I can switch charges and caliber Mich faster than on a progressive
 

corwin

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WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE STOCKPILING 380!??!



Do you honestly think that shit will punch through a chinese APC?

MORON!

Quit hoarding bullets you dont fucking need!

Just order some online...you can get 1k jhp HERE for $360 plus shipping

Hell they even still have .40 in stock too...
 

desertdweller

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I suck at videos but here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaY8XDSkLc



It seems a bit finnicky but I like it overall. Haven't figured out yet if there's some trick to making the powder measure give consistent results, I was getting charges that varied by as much as 0.3 gr! And I need to learn to work the primer feed with my left hand. But still, I was able to do 50 rounds in about an hour today (with some interruptions and screw ups), not bad for day 3 I guess.

Why don't you do the seating and crimping on the progressive?



All I had time to play with was a simple .38 target load:

158 gr LSWC
3.2-3.5 gr Titegroup (see about about the charge variation :|)
CCI 550 primer
1.49" OAL

It can take a little bit to get it going smoothly. At least in my experience with Dillon and Hornady presses, they always need a little tweaking in the beginning. Give it a few hundred rounds worth of tweaking and adjustments before it will run really well.

Also, generally speaking, progressive presses will always have some variation in the powder charge from shell to shell. One thing that can help is getting a consistent pull on the handle so the mechanism operates the same way each time. Also, some powders work better in progressive presses than others. I know several folks that run Tight Group and they seem to like it. My favorites are Solo 1000, WST, Accurate #5 or #2. They all seem to meter well.

When setting up my powder measure, I always take my measurements with 10 pulls of the handle with each adjustment. And, I use the press with an actual case to do it instead of just working the linkage on the powder measure. Just working the linkage into your measuring cup may not give the same results.

By the way, even good factory ammunition has variances in it. If you're ever interested, you can take a box of factory loaded, new ammo and run them through a chronograph.
 

clamum

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Got my press set up yesterday and reloaded my first rounds:



Awesome man! I really wanna get into reloading. What press is that (turret?)? I'm thinking of starting off with a turret press but I'm not sure if there's one offered in like a "starter package" or if I'll have to buy everything separate. Where'd you get all your equipment? Thanks!
 

coxmaster

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Awesome man! I really wanna get into reloading. What press is that (turret?)? I'm thinking of starting off with a turret press but I'm not sure if there's one offered in like a "starter package" or if I'll have to buy everything separate. Where'd you get all your equipment? Thanks!

Lee has all sorts of kits that are a good starter kit, of course everyone has their own opinion about brands.. I personally started about 8 months ago on a progressive Lee press and other than minor issues I've never had any trouble with it. Its a rewarding hobby for sure, but right now is a difficult time to get started
 

Merad

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The lee should be better than that. Did you do as they recommend and put like three pounds worth of powder through it first?

3 lbs?! The instructions with it said nothing about needing break-in.

Awesome man! I really wanna get into reloading. What press is that (turret?)? I'm thinking of starting off with a turret press but I'm not sure if there's one offered in like a "starter package" or if I'll have to buy everything separate. Where'd you get all your equipment? Thanks!

Yeah it's a Lee Classic Turret. Lee sells their basic presses in kits that have the powder measure and priming system, the turret kit goes for just under $200. You have to add dies for your caliber and of course bullets/powder/primers. I went ahead and got a case tumbler, digital powder scale and calipers, but you don't *have* to have them. Most of the stuff I ordered from Natchez.
 

velillen

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3 lbs?! The instructions with it said nothing about needing break-in.



Yeah it's a Lee Classic Turret. Lee sells their basic presses in kits that have the powder measure and priming system, the turret kit goes for just under $200. You have to add dies for your caliber and of course bullets/powder/primers. I went ahead and got a case tumbler, digital powder scale and calipers, but you don't *have* to have them. Most of the stuff I ordered from Natchez.

Most to all powder throwers recommend running 1-3lbs through them. Which is quick and easy using large charges. It helps coat all the parts or something but I did notice my uniflow went from .2 or so variances to pretty much being spot on for ball powders and .1 or .2 for stick.


Those lee kits are great to start! I went and bought everything individually and probably spent more than of I'd bought a package. But I like all brands and use rcbs, Lyman, and lee mostly.
 
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