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Phanuel

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I hope you don't live in a condo.

You never ever want to point a gun at anything that could be a risk if it discharges.

Sure you can bang out a full "clip" worth at the floor first, but I still don't believe in pointing guns randomly around.












I know its a magazine...I still use clip.

Then put a bottle cap on the floor and aim at that. Whatever floats your boat or powers your M3.
 

rudeguy

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Nothing wrong with dry firing as exercise as long as the gun is cleared first. Personally I like to have no ammo in the area just to be on the safe side. I often dry-fire at the TV as practice.

I do the same.

But with my computer monitor

With a Justin Bieber video playing D:
 

spidey07

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Nothing wrong with dry firing as exercise as long as the gun is cleared first. Personally I like to have no ammo in the area just to be on the safe side. I often dry-fire at the TV as practice.

Same. But I still assume a bullet is going to leave the barrel and aim at something that I'm OK if it's destroyed and what's beyond it.

Not criticizing, but that's one of the rules I never break. Even though I know there is no bullet in there. Even though I know it's OK, I don't let the barrel point at something I don't want destroyed especially if I pull the trigger or put my finger on it. Just something I grew up with and good safety. If my finger goes into the guard, it's pointed in a safe direction including whatever part of the house the imaginary bullet would be going to.
 

alkemyst

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Same. But I still assume a bullet is going to leave the barrel and aim at something that I'm OK if it's destroyed and what's beyond it.

Not criticizing, but that's one of the rules I never break. Even though I know there is no bullet in there. Even though I know it's OK, I don't let the barrel point at something I don't want destroyed especially if I pull the trigger or put my finger on it. Just something I grew up with and good safety. If my finger goes into the guard, it's pointed in a safe direction including whatever part of the house the imaginary bullet would be going to.

QFT.

IMHO dry firing doesn't solve the 'flinch' problem if you have it.

You know your loaded or unloaded...

I never had a problem with flinching though, I didn't grow up in this new generation though.

If you are still flinching after going through 200+ rounds at the range, maybe gun ownership is not wrong for you.
 

alkemyst

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1) Then put a bottle cap on the floor and aim at that. Whatever floats your boat or powers your M3.
2) And Alkey injects more worthless insulting disguised as vaguely as possible as advice/commentary.

3) http://www.officer.com/article/10833448/dry-fire-the-practice-for-pros-not-just-beginners

WTF you talking about? I am being honest in this thread...my family are all big gun owners and my dad, brother and I are often is the worst parts of a town after-hours and alone.

EDIT, Since you have edited your thread 3 times now.

I am not saying dry-firing doesn't have it's uses, but that article says nothing about pointing a gun unsafely.

I personally don't believe in dry-firing. It's an economical thing, not a great thing.

Also some guns don't do well without snap-caps.
 
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Phanuel

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I edited it once. Not sure why you think I edited one post 3 times.

Dry firing is not for economics, dry firing is an important part of firearms fundamentals. Since you're too 'alpha' to see anything beyond your own blind ignorance, feel free to alpha along somewhere else where your idiocracy will be appreciated.

Edit: Don't dry-fire rimfire firearms though, that will destroy the firing mechanism. Dry firing is only for centerfire cartridge firearms.
 
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alkemyst

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I edited it once. Not sure why you think I edited one post 3 times.

Dry firing is not for economics, dry firing is an important part of firearms fundamentals. Since you're too 'alpha' to see anything beyond your own blind ignorance, feel free to alpha along somewhere else where your idiocracy will be appreciated.

Edit: Don't dry-fire rimfire firearms though, that will destroy the firing mechanism. Dry firing is only for centerfire cartridge firearms.

Lol bro, sit back down you are scaring us.
 

Zargon

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QFT.

IMHO dry firing doesn't solve the 'flinch' problem if you have it.

You know your loaded or unloaded...

I never had a problem with flinching though, I didn't grow up in this new generation though.

If you are still flinching after going through 200+ rounds at the range, maybe gun ownership is not wrong for you.

200 rounds isn't even getting started

Dry firing is great to learn the trigger
 
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x-alki

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LOL at alphamyst. Dry firing is a good way to learn when the trigger breaks, when it resets and it doesn't cost a damn thing.
 

alkemyst

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LOL at alphamyst. Dry firing is a good way to learn when the trigger breaks, when it resets and it doesn't cost a damn thing.

As long as you aren't aiming haphazardly, sure.

Again, it's a cost issue, if money is no object then I am sure dry-firing would be laughed at. Also I am sure most are not really dry-firing. I don't know of anyone I know that can honestly say they are taking each shot like they are at the range. Especially if you are just shooting things in your living room while watching The Simpsons.

When my dad was young and in the army as a marksman, if he wanted ammo to shoot; they gave it to him.
 
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As long as you aren't aiming haphazardly, sure.

Again, it's a cost issue, if money is no object then I am sure dry-firing would be laughed at. Also I am sure most are not really dry-firing. I don't know of anyone I know that can honestly say they are taking each shot like they are at the range. Especially if you are just shooting things in your living room while watching The Simpsons.

When my dad was young and in the army as a marksman, if he wanted ammo to shoot; they gave it to him.

What a brain-dead post.

Dry firing has little or nothing to do with cost - it has to do with the ability to practice much more often, at home. I could afford to go to the range every day if I wanted to but have neither the time nor the inclination to do so.
 

exdeath

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As long as you aren't aiming haphazardly, sure.

Again, it's a cost issue, if money is no object then I am sure dry-firing would be laughed at. Also I am sure most are not really dry-firing. I don't know of anyone I know that can honestly say they are taking each shot like they are at the range. Especially if you are just shooting things in your living room while watching The Simpsons.

When my dad was young and in the army as a marksman, if he wanted ammo to shoot; they gave it to him.

I have thousands of rounds and I still do dry fire exercises at home when I'm bored. Even without actually shooting live rounds, you are still practicing drawing, target picture acquisition speed, engaging multiple random targets picked at the last second, trigger reset speed, etc. In a way that often involves covering the whole room with your muzzle that would get you kicked out of most ranges and tactical courses that aren't set up for 360 degrees high speed ad hoc "shooting".

Developing muscle memory for such things is often more important than actually firing. You can assume a weaver stance and plug rounds into a target straight in front of you all day long, and then fumble on the draw or forget the safety or drop the mag or something stupid if you ever actually have to draw.

PS: nothing I do this with is capable of penetrating concrete exterior walls and I don't point at windows even still. And I still check out of habit over 100 times even when I already know it's empty and hasn't left my hands.

Even with unlimited funds and ammo and time, tactical training courses for civilians are often just 1 day events and scheduled in advance by appointment. It's not like you can just walk in 24x7 and have the course to yourself to practice things like drawing and acquisition as much as you want every day. Some simple lane ranges even frown upon things like drawing, lest someone shoot their leg off.
 
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CurseTheSky

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The best way to diagnose flinching is to have a buddy load several snap caps at random points in a magazine. Pay attention to what you're doing each time you pull the trigger. if the gun moves when you hit one of the snap caps, you're flinching.

Dry firing is great for smoothing out an action, building muscle memory, and mastering a trigger. It's an essential part of training IMO.
 

alkemyst

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What a brain-dead post.

Dry firing has little or nothing to do with cost - it has to do with the ability to practice much more often, at home. I could afford to go to the range every day if I wanted to but have neither the time nor the inclination to do so.

no you cannot.

However; dry-firing is more about the soldiers now.

It doesn't break basic gun rules that you don't point a gun where you don't want to shoot.

If you really could afford the ammo, you'd be at a range. It's not really a time-saver.
 

exdeath

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The best way to diagnose flinching is to have a buddy load several snap caps at random points in a magazine. Pay attention to what you're doing each time you pull the trigger. if the gun moves when you hit one of the snap caps, you're flinching.

Dry firing is great for smoothing out an action, building muscle memory, and mastering a trigger. It's an essential part of training IMO.

Great for in the field as well for practicing malfunction drills without skipping a beat.
 

Zargon

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no you cannot.

However; dry-firing is more about the soldiers now.

It doesn't break basic gun rules that you don't point a gun where you don't want to shoot.

If you really could afford the ammo, you'd be at a range. It's not really a time-saver.

sure its a time saver

I can do it right now while watching MNF

no ranges open this time of night near me
 

alkemyst

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There are apparently a lot of folks posting which outline why people want guns banned.

Even those bragging how they have weapons that can take down body armor.
 

exdeath

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There are apparently a lot of folks posting which outline why people want guns banned.

Even those bragging how they have weapons that can take down body armor.

Yet the people who want guns banned don't care about a wooden Winchester Model 70 single shot bolt action .458 win mag "hunting rifle".

It's the AR-15s and AK-47s and "military style" semiautomatic guns they cry about even though those are weak calibers that are LEAST likely to pose a threat to body armor.

Which was kinda my point. The banning dangerous guns thing is a complete farce.
 
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Phanuel

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So now you think you're a lot of folks? That's called MPD. You should see a doctor about this, I think it's serious.
 

shortylickens

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The best way to diagnose flinching is to have a buddy load several snap caps at random points in a magazine. Pay attention to what you're doing each time you pull the trigger. if the gun moves when you hit one of the snap caps, you're flinching.

Dry firing is great for smoothing out an action, building muscle memory, and mastering a trigger. It's an essential part of training IMO.


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwOTSb5p2ZNZemFGTF93T2d3Z3M/edit?usp=sharing
 
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no you cannot.

However; dry-firing is more about the soldiers now.

It doesn't break basic gun rules that you don't point a gun where you don't want to shoot.

If you really could afford the ammo, you'd be at a range. It's not really a time-saver.


Are you high? Cost is not an object to me when it comes to shooting. I could go to the range every day without noticing the cost. People pay $340/hour for my time (not that I net that much - I don't). I don't have infinite amounts of time or infinite amounts of time to go to the range, however. You act as though the range is equally as available to me as my living room, which is obviously not the case.
 
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