Windham or the Mossberg MMR is the best bang for the buck pre-built AR15 that doesn't come accessorized out from the get go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PVEitTfxm0
MAC review for Windham
A friend picked up the Mossberg MMR hunter. It was in one of the camo patterns. Nice gun and had zero issue out of the box. Was shooting MOA at 100 yards but not sure what ammo he was using or anything. I was impressed with it. Especially for the price (think he paid like 700 for it)
Windham is a company i am hoping really gets their feet of the ground. Being fired from Bushmaster and then forming your own company and starting from the ground up is rough.
I'm a little more broke than I would like or I would build a beowulf. Anyone here ever fired one?
I've got one of those; I like it.
Finally got my UPS delivery for today.. Never seen a UPS man so out of breath from walking up just 1 flight of stairs..
1000 rounds of 7.62x39 @ just under 20c/rd shipped
1000 124gr plated 9mm bullets
And every package you get from here on out will be dropped....
...unless he knows what was in the boxes
I've ordered ammo a few times from palmetto state armory and they tend to be a tad bit slow on shipping em out. I'm about to order a handgun from them. Anyone ever do so and if so are they a bit quicker?
One of them is marked ORM-D, the ammo obviously.. He was genuinely pissed off that it was so heavy. The total weight of the two packages came out to like 65 lbs :whiste:
I've ordered ammo a few times from palmetto state armory and they tend to be a tad bit slow on shipping em out. I'm about to order a handgun from them. Anyone ever do so and if so are they a bit quicker?
Like molasses in the winter... But it will get there by Xmas...
I'm a little more broke than I would like or I would build a beowulf. Anyone here ever fired one?
PA is just one of the slowest but reliable...Haven't ordered a gun, but you have to pay to play usually. I expect my cheapest shops to not have the quickest ship times.
Sadly, many are making that an issue with some and they are losing business from internet mouths.
Like molasses in the winter... But it will get there by Xmas...
I would certainly agree with that. I don't think there is anything magical about mil spec, and on the high end it can be more of a limitation than a benefit, since in many instances there are higher-quality materials which are not mil spec.
Holy hell. Went to the range today.
That little sonofabitch is excellent. Fired 150 rounds flawlessly and is a god damn tack driver. That's the one I wanted the grips for...but now I dunno, cause the stock ones, which I decided to trim/smooth with a bit of sanding yesterday, are now pretty damned acceptable. A little ghetto looking; but functional. I also polished the chamber/barrel (the outside) 'cause the black coating that came on there looked weird. Made it look like an airsoft gun or something.
Anyway...yeah...I've fired 9mm's costing twice as much that did not perform as well. Turkey Fuck Yeah.
That's my point. Mil-spec is a tolerance floor people should accept as the bar minimum. If you're buying DPMS, CMMG, or several other manufacturer's you're refusing to hit at least that tolerance and quality control. MPI (magnetic particle inspection) is pretty key on bolts as they are the heart of a rifle along with the barrel.
I have no clue about Windham, nor do I really care to investigate when companies like BCM are around and a well known/respected quantity. I've never even seen them mentioned by SMEs before.
He was pissed off? Because he has to do his job? What a whiny bitch. And 65 lbs... hahaha! I'm a skinny dude, 5' 8" and 130 lbs, and could handle that. Fuck even if it was too heavy to carry, use the damn handcart, they work on stairs. Yikes...One of them is marked ORM-D, the ammo obviously.. He was genuinely pissed off that it was so heavy. The total weight of the two packages came out to like 65 lbs :whiste:
Noveske, LMT, LaRue, BCM only. The rest are garbage.Windham = old Bushmaster crew before the Bushmaster brand was sold.
They are excellent, probably better than the new Bushmasters. The original Bushmaster rifles had Windham marked on the receivers, the new ones say NY or something.
They are "moar mil spec" than Colt's civilian ARs (eg green phosphate coating is correct, etc)
This obsession with "mil spec" and who has the better AR is dumb. There are only like 3 foundries that make most parts. The barrel is the only thing that should matter, and mil spec chrome lined isn't the best, but still better than 99.9% of shooters that leave it in the box...
what is it?
Windham = old Bushmaster crew before the Bushmaster brand was sold.
They are excellent, probably better than the new Bushmasters. The original Bushmaster rifles had Windham marked on the receivers, the new ones say NY or something.
They are "moar mil spec" than Colt's civilian ARs (eg green phosphate coating is correct, etc)
This obsession with "mil spec" and who has the better AR is dumb. There are only like 3 foundries that make most parts. The barrel is the only thing that should matter, and mil spec chrome lined isn't the best, but still better than 99.9% of shooters that leave it in the box...
commercial stock tubes are larger diameter than mil-spec, by ~ 1/8th of an inch
that makes it unacceptible?