YAGT: OMG I love guns

[irishScott]

I'm not really sure what kind of guns appeal to women, but glitter sounds more like something for a girl who isn't old enough to buy a gun yet.

Beauty of capitalism. Even the dumbest ideas are around for a few seconds.

 

[dabuddha]

Well ended up cancelling my order for the m&p shield 9mm at PSA since Lanbos matched the price and shipping was $2 cheaper. Not to mention they won't take 5 years to ship it out.

 

[Zargon]

lanbos?

 

[dabuddha]

lanbos?

http://lanbosarmory.com

and I checked the status this morning and it looks like they shipped it out yesterday evening. Now if it comes as advertised, I'll be very satisfied

 

[Pacfanweb]

Okay, here's a question, and I'm interested in what the range of opinions are:

Background: I grew up hunting. Been around guns all my life. Not much in the way of handguns, though. We had one here and there, but I was never a fan of them. In fact, they always frightened me a bit, even though I was totally comfortable around shotguns and rifles.

Anyway, we used to have my Grandfathers' old Army 1911. House was broken into and it got stolen, along with everything else.

I've always wished we still had that piece of not only military, but personal family history. (he used it in Korea)

So, I've been kicking around the idea of getting a CCW anyway. Wouldn't mind collecting a few WWII-era pistols. Don't really care about carrying, but here in NC a CCW means you don't have to get a pistol permit every time you want a new one.

So......my thought have been to buy an actual WWII-era 1911. I don't want a museum piece, I want something I can go shoot if I want to.

Should I even bother with an old one? Or should I just get a new one to have less problem with it?

 

[Genx87]

Depends if you want an actual gun from WWII. The gun itself if properly maintained should shoot just fine regardless of age. It sounds to me like you want to get a gun that reminds you of your grandfather. Get the gun you want as it is a lifetime investment. I think that would be the WWII era gun?

 

[Tiamat]

Okay, here's a question, and I'm interested in what the range of opinions are:

Background: I grew up hunting. Been around guns all my life. Not much in the way of handguns, though. We had one here and there, but I was never a fan of them. In fact, they always frightened me a bit, even though I was totally comfortable around shotguns and rifles.

Anyway, we used to have my Grandfathers' old Army 1911. House was broken into and it got stolen, along with everything else.

I've always wished we still had that piece of not only military, but personal family history. (he used it in Korea)

So, I've been kicking around the idea of getting a CCW anyway. Wouldn't mind collecting a few WWII-era pistols. Don't really care about carrying, but here in NC a CCW means you don't have to get a pistol permit every time you want a new one.

So......my thought have been to buy an actual WWII-era 1911. I don't want a museum piece, I want something I can go shoot if I want to.

Should I even bother with an old one? Or should I just get a new one to have less problem with it?

Generally speaking, I think it would be kind of difficult to just jump in with both feet into the world of older 1911s without any prior knowledge or experience with a 1911. Without knowing what to look for and how to check the action of an older 1911, it is kind of like rolling the dice in terms of quality. Maybe someone else can chime in on this. Otherwise, a decent 1911 that should have a minimum of "issues" usually costs from 1k$ to 1.5k$. My wife has a kimber super carry ultra and it hasn't hickup'd. I've seen SIGs and Springfields in that price range as well (in addition to Colt). I haven't been able to get my hands on a S&W or Remington brand.

Obviously if you want one that reminds you of your grandfather's service, you gotta get one from that era. Gunshows usually have more choices to look at, and most allow you to manipulate the firearm and inspect it if you ask and look serious.

 

[Genx87]

I have a S&W 1911. It had an issue from the factory that caused it to jam about every 5-6th round. I want to say something about a faulty spring? I cant remember what they wrote got fixed when I got it back. Anyways they fixed it and now it shoots really well. I was actually surprised how well it shot after getting it back. I was plinking pop cans from 20-25 yards out with pretty good consistency. And I am not a good shot with a pistol.

 

[HumblePie]

Okay, here's a question, and I'm interested in what the range of opinions are:

Background: I grew up hunting. Been around guns all my life. Not much in the way of handguns, though. We had one here and there, but I was never a fan of them. In fact, they always frightened me a bit, even though I was totally comfortable around shotguns and rifles.

Anyway, we used to have my Grandfathers' old Army 1911. House was broken into and it got stolen, along with everything else.

I've always wished we still had that piece of not only military, but personal family history. (he used it in Korea)

So, I've been kicking around the idea of getting a CCW anyway. Wouldn't mind collecting a few WWII-era pistols. Don't really care about carrying, but here in NC a CCW means you don't have to get a pistol permit every time you want a new one.

So......my thought have been to buy an actual WWII-era 1911. I don't want a museum piece, I want something I can go shoot if I want to.

Should I even bother with an old one? Or should I just get a new one to have less problem with it?

Depending on how close to a border to another state you may be, you might be able to just go across the border to a state that doesn't require permits to buy a handgun. Then you can just come back home with it since none of the laws in NC state you can't do that and own the gun still.

 

[irishScott]

Okay, here's a question, and I'm interested in what the range of opinions are:

Background: I grew up hunting. Been around guns all my life. Not much in the way of handguns, though. We had one here and there, but I was never a fan of them. In fact, they always frightened me a bit, even though I was totally comfortable around shotguns and rifles.

Anyway, we used to have my Grandfathers' old Army 1911. House was broken into and it got stolen, along with everything else.

I've always wished we still had that piece of not only military, but personal family history. (he used it in Korea)

So, I've been kicking around the idea of getting a CCW anyway. Wouldn't mind collecting a few WWII-era pistols. Don't really care about carrying, but here in NC a CCW means you don't have to get a pistol permit every time you want a new one.

So......my thought have been to buy an actual WWII-era 1911. I don't want a museum piece, I want something I can go shoot if I want to.

Should I even bother with an old one? Or should I just get a new one to have less problem with it?

Well you could, but I'm not sure it's the best option. As others have said the quality will be a crap shoot, you'll really have to do your research and likely even field-strip the the think to inspect individual parts before being assured of a reliable gun, and even then there might be defects you can't detect visually.

Old-school 1911s also have small, shitty sights that are rather hard to use.

That said, if you find a quality one it'll be quite reliable. I remember reading an article in the American Handgunner where the columnist retrieved an almost completely original WWI era 1911 and shot a competition round with it. Wasn't the most accurate thing in the world by competition standards, but apparently it functioned flawlessly.

A safer bet for carry would be a modern 1911 from Springfield, Kimber, Rock Island, STI, the options are numerous. It'll last longer, shoot better, be just as reliable in all likelihood, and have better features.

 

[dabuddha]

Depending on how close to a border to another state you may be, you might be able to just go across the border to a state that doesn't require permits to buy a handgun. Then you can just come back home with it since none of the laws in NC state you can't do that and own the gun still.

Does that work cause every shop I've been to says they can't sell me a gun unless I either:

a) reside in virginia

or

b) have it shipped to my state to a FFL.

I've been told this in PA, VA, and TX

 

[pontifex]

Okay, here's a question, and I'm interested in what the range of opinions are:

Background: I grew up hunting. Been around guns all my life. Not much in the way of handguns, though. We had one here and there, but I was never a fan of them. In fact, they always frightened me a bit, even though I was totally comfortable around shotguns and rifles.

Anyway, we used to have my Grandfathers' old Army 1911. House was broken into and it got stolen, along with everything else.

I've always wished we still had that piece of not only military, but personal family history. (he used it in Korea)

So, I've been kicking around the idea of getting a CCW anyway. Wouldn't mind collecting a few WWII-era pistols. Don't really care about carrying, but here in NC a CCW means you don't have to get a pistol permit every time you want a new one.

So......my thought have been to buy an actual WWII-era 1911. I don't want a museum piece, I want something I can go shoot if I want to.

Should I even bother with an old one? Or should I just get a new one to have less problem with it?

going to pay out the ass for a WWI or WWI era 1911. even ones that looked like they were used as an anvil and drug behind a truck for 100 miles, people are asking way too much for them.

there are plenty of companies making 1911s that look like the old GI 1911s and you get a good, new gun you don't have to pay out the ass for. Also they'll probably work better with different types of ammo. you also don't have to spend $1K+ to get a good 1911 as some people claim.

 

[HumblePie]

Does that work cause every shop I've been to says they can't sell me a gun unless I either:

a) reside in virginia

or

b) have it shipped to my state to a FFL.

I've been told this in PA, VA, and TX

Most places don't have laws stating that guns may only be sold to in-state residents. Now individual stores may not do so. But I've seen more than a few people from Kommiefornia come to Texas to pick up a firearm here they would have to wait a lot longer for to get back where they are from.

 

[clamum]

Pacfanweb: If you go with a new/modern (or a modern 1911 that's used) 1911, don't feel like you have to pay a grand and a half to get a quality one. By all means, if you have the money go ahead with a real nice Kimber or whatever if you'd like, but don't ignore the Rock Island or Ruger SR1911 or Remington R1911 etc either if you have a budget.

 

[pontifex]

Does that work cause every shop I've been to says they can't sell me a gun unless I either:

a) reside in virginia

or

b) have it shipped to my state to a FFL.

I've been told this in PA, VA, and TX

Pretty sure federal law requires you to be a resident of the state for handgun purchases or you need to have it shipped to an ffl in your state. I think you can buy a long gun in any state and take ownership of it right then and there as long as it's legal in your home state (don't quote me on that though as I'm not 100% sure). There are other exceptions for different reasons though.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Depending on how close to a border to another state you may be, you might be able to just go across the border to a state that doesn't require permits to buy a handgun. Then you can just come back home with it since none of the laws in NC state you can't do that and own the gun still.

IIRC, that's against federal law.

I believe you can go to another gun shop, agree to purchase it from them, and have them ship it to an FFL in your state. However, you still have to do all of the paperwork and other requirements from your local FFL, so if your state has a limit on how often you can buy a pistol or anything similar, you still have to abide by that. Again, this is just from memory; do your own research and ask a professional.

 

[velillen]

My phone is being stupid but go to the atf site and FAQ section. An unlicensed person (ie non ffl) may only buy a handgun in the state of residence. But you can buy a rifle or shotgun. But even that has limits. Like a cali resident can't go to Arizona and buy a assault weapon. Least that's how I read that portion of the law

 

[HumblePie]

IIRC, that's against federal law.

I believe you can go to another gun shop, agree to purchase it from them, and have them ship it to an FFL in your state. However, you still have to do all of the paperwork and other requirements from your local FFL, so if your state has a limit on how often you can buy a pistol or anything similar, you still have to abide by that. Again, this is just from memory; do your own research and ask a professional.

Actually looked it up. Long guns you buy from an FFL you can do as an out of state purchase. Handguns you have to have shipped back to an FFL at your state of residence. However, you can buy a handgun from a private individual without having to worry about the FFL bullshit. Except CA people.

Or you can do a lease of a residence in a different state to become a resident as well of that state. Which allows for you to apply for an ID of residency in that state as well.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Depends if you want an actual gun from WWII. The gun itself if properly maintained should shoot just fine regardless of age. It sounds to me like you want to get a gun that reminds you of your grandfather. Get the gun you want as it is a lifetime investment. I think that would be the WWII era gun?

I disagree on it being safe to shoot. For example, a lot of 1903s aren't safe as they used older metals that aren't hardened right and then can blow up in the end. An ill maintained Garand can have a firing pin that's stuck and basically slam fires every round (firing in full auto, landing you in jail for 15 years.)

Don't get me wrong - I just bought a Winchester 1897 that was made back in 1911. The bluing has turned brown, but it's still safe to shoot, assuming I run low recoil rounds through it and don't push hot/magnum loads or something stupid.

In other words, sure, they CAN be in full working condition. And then can be completely unsafe to shoot.

 

[velillen]

However, you can buy a handgun from a private individual without having to worry about the FFL bullshit. Except CA people.

Only if you want to commit a Federal Offense.

ANY transfer by a non resident must go through a licensed dealer. The NRA site has probably the easiest way to read it but you can look up the actual CFR's if you want.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/f...-sales-restrictions-and-gun-registration.aspx

-It is against the law (with rare exceptions) for anyone to transfer a handgun to a non-dealer who resides in another state.
-It is against the law for a non-dealer to transfer any firearm to a non-dealer who resides in another state.

Basically if you are out of state you better be going through a FFL for your guns. And even then only be getting rifle or shotgun. Unless you are having them shipped to a FFL in your state. Of course some exceptions apply but for the general rule of thumb...dont do it





and trust me it is annoying as the gun i always want ALWAYS seems to pop up in Oregon lol

 

[boomhower]

Actually looked it up. Long guns you buy from an FFL you can do as an out of state purchase. Handguns you have to have shipped back to an FFL at your state of residence. However, you can buy a handgun from a private individual without having to worry about the FFL bullshit. Except CA people.

Or you can do a lease of a residence in a different state to become a resident as well of that state. Which allows for you to apply for an ID of residency in that state as well.

Long guns vary from state to state. You are incorrect on handguns. You cannot do a private party transfer between out of state residents. It has to be shipped to the purchasers FFL in their state. Depending on state law you can do a sale between two people residents of the same state without an FFL.

 

[HumblePie]

Long guns vary from state to state. You are incorrect on handguns. You cannot do a private party transfer between out of state residents. It has to be shipped to the purchasers FFL in their state. Depending on state law you can do a sale between two people residents of the same state without an FFL.

Yep, looked up the long gun bit as I posted earlier. You can buy long guns out of state and not hand guns. But you can also jut do a cheap quick lease in the state you want to bu a gun in. So long as your name is on a lease you can apply for an ID of that state and then you are considered a resident to buy what you want there.

 

[exdeath]

What's all thus legal talk? Everyone knows guns are completely unregulated, unrestricted, and there are no background checks...

 

[DrPizza]

On the recommendation of a friend, I picked up a Savage 7mm-08 tonight, camo stock. Took 4 shots to get it dialed in at 100 yards (doh! Turned the dials the wrong way on the scope after the first shot.) But it got too dark before I could shoot at 200 and 300 yards.

$35 for a box of 20 rounds. Ouch!

Hopefully I don't have to turn down a big buck tomorrow morning because I'm not 100% confident beyond maybe 150 yards.

 

[Bartman39]

Would not worry to much on a 7mm08 they shoot quite flat to 300+ yards...:thumbsup: Damn nice caliber using a 7mm bullet with the 308 hull behind it...

Not sure if they make one but love to find an AR10 in 7mm08 just to add to the collection...

But just ordered another lower and 6.8 Rem SPC upper so next should be a 6.5 Grendel (wanting to collect everything in the AR15 category for shizts and giggles)...