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shortylickens

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I don't know which state you are in, but I've found that Maryland has much more ammo at decent prices than no. Virginia.

I took a road trip up there once and it did not seem that way to me.

But this was some time ago, I guess things have changed.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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I took a road trip up there once and it did not seem that way to me.

But this was some time ago, I guess things have changed.

Things have changed pretty quick up here.

I went to Meijer yesterday to get groceries and swung into the sporting goods to grab some #9. The only ammo they had was 30/30 and some 12 gauge slugs. I have never seen that ammo case empty before.

Gun store is still fully loaded though. Once I see their stash start to go, I will start hording.
 

Zargon

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I like the new rugers

the sr9c has great reviews that ive seen



bought an LPK from PSA to go with my lower, now all I need is the expensive parts
 

Bartman39

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Jul 4, 2000
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I like the new rugers

the sr9c has great reviews that ive seen



bought an LPK from PSA to go with my lower, now all I need is the expensive parts
Just traded a Black Shadow (model 1300) shotgun for a SR9 full size and really like it... Yup the upper is or can be the money pit... Just put together enough with todays sale to buy what I have been wanting an AR57 upper...:thumbsup: (got a ton of 5.7X28 rounds)
 

x-alki

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Damn it...! Been trying to trade for one of those... Yes pic's please so I can try harder to find one...
Since you asked nicely...



I really like it. recoil is very tame and it has a fairly slip grip. $400 out the door, new.
 
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Bartman39

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Since you asked nicely...



I really like it. recoil is very tame and it has a fairly slip grip. $400 out the door, new.
Sweet...! Ok ready to trade it off... Sounds like a good price on it...? Where may I ask...?
 

JackBurton

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Is anyone keeping up with this BS proposition they are trying to pass? ATF 41P

If you are, please submit your comments to help shut this BS down. There are only a few more days to make sure your voice is heard. This really only serves to f@ck law abiding gun owners over, that is it.
 
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velillen

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Is anyone keeping up with this BS proposition they are trying to pass? ATF 41P

If you are, please submit your comments to help shut this BS down. There are only a few more days to make sure your voice is heard. This really only serves to f@ck law abiding gun owners over, that is it.

i think anyone who has any NFA item has been promoting the comments on that I know on many other forums those of us with NFA items have been at least
 

velillen

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whats NFA?

I have no idea what that rule is supposed to mean.

Nation Firearm Acts. Covers Short barrel Rifles, Short Barrel Shotguns, machineguns, and Suppressors (and some other things but those are the most common). Of course some are legal in some states...like WA only suppressors are legal. (unless your a SOT)

Basically as it is now when buying those items a lot of people use a Trust to buy the items. So the trust owns the item and not the actual individual. Which is nice cause you can share the item between all those people listed on said trust. even so most people using trusts are still only doing it for themselves.

Which is because the other method is to register as an individual. The problem with this is you must get a local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (sheriff, chief of police, ect) to sign your form. However many people have discovered their local CLEO wont sign their forms. For different reasons such as the CLEO thinks they items will be used against police, or dont think you should even own them, or just have no clue what you are trying to do.

So by using a trust you bypass the CLEO requirement. Also only the person who is actually purchasing (ie whoever filled out the forms) goes through a background check at the ATF when using a trust.


The new rules want to end that. The ATF wants to require a CLEO for ALL members on a trust. So in my case currently on the trust is myself, dad and brother. I would have to get the Chief of Seattle to sign off for my brother (wont happen), the Kitsap County Sheriff to sign off for me (most likely a no go) and the Chief of Police for bremerton for my dad (again wont happen). Also all three of us would have to go through a background check (no big deal there) but also submit finger prints as well (more money for the Police Departments!)

So they Chief of Police (well CLEO) would basically be able to tell you yes or no if you can get a NFA item. They dont need a reason to not sign. All they have to say is no and your a out of luck.



So hopefully that explains it in a nutshell for ya. The ATF is basically going to allow one person the ability to approve or deny your access to a legally allowed item.
 

rudeguy

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Shrug. I guess I don't see the appeal in that stuff.

On a side note, the mall no longer has no guns signs posted. I'm legally carrying here for the first time.
 

JackBurton

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i think anyone who has any NFA item has been promoting the comments on that I know on many other forums those of us with NFA items have been at least

I hope so. This is absolutely ridiculous. It's already a pain in the ass to purchase an NFA item, we don't need any more obstacles. What they are basically trying to do is outlaw those items while making them "technically" legal.

I'm planning on buying a short barrel AR-15 and don't need more obstacles. Hell, I still haven't received my stamps back from the suppressors I ordered back in March of this year.
 
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JackBurton

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Shrug. I guess I don't see the appeal in that stuff.

On a side note, the mall no longer has no guns signs posted. I'm legally carrying here for the first time.

Fire a .45 indoors and then let me know if a quieter gun for home defense doesn't make sense.
 

velillen

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Jul 12, 2006
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Shrug. I guess I don't see the appeal in that stuff.

On a side note, the mall no longer has no guns signs posted. I'm legally carrying here for the first time.

So you agree with letting ONE person decide if you can own an item or not. And he can say no to anyone for no reason at all? Let someone who can just simply say no to a citizen who can legally own the item to begin with?

Makes sense.

I'm planning on buying a short barrel AR-15 and don't need more obstacles. Hell, I still haven't received my stamps back from the suppressors I ordered back in March of this year.

Im still waiting for one from December 22nd of last year (was a dealer to dealer first though). The one i ordered in August (another dealer to dealer) im not expecting till 2015 at this point
 
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