YAGT: OMG I love guns

[CurseTheSky]

I put around ~200rds through the SR22, ~20rds through the Bodyguard .380, and ~60rds through the P250 today. One FTF from the SR22, but otherwise flawless.

I'm really itching to shoot the 1911, but .45 is so expensive. $20 worth of ammo is gone within 10 minutes of shooting. It's really too bad, it's by far my favorite pistol to shoot. Accurate as heck too.

 

[irishScott]

Sold a couple guns I didnt want any more and finally bought a 1911.

Got it used cheaper than a new Ruger 1911, and it came with 3 magazines, leather magazine pouch, fancy adjustable CQC belt holster. Had nice hard rubber grips in the classic dual diamond pattern, and tritium sites. Guy who had it before me kept it in immaculate condition. Have no idea why he let it go so cheap. Salesman claimed he just didnt shoot it any more.

Only downside is its single stack, but those are easier to find accessories for anyway.

/Jealous

Although I'll put it up against My Springfield LW Champion Operator... that I payed $999 for ... any day.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[velillen]

I'm really itching to shoot the 1911, but .45 is so expensive. $20 worth of ammo is gone within 10 minutes of shooting. It's really too bad, it's by far my favorite pistol to shoot. Accurate as heck too.

And now you know why more and more people are getting into reloading. Higher initial cost but over years itll save a bundle.

But i do feel you. I'm definitely converting into more of a shoot 50-100 9mm a trip, 50 357 and then as much .22 as i want.

 

[BladeVenom]

I dont know anybody thats used a Sig and hates it.
I do know plenty of people that think they're hideously overpriced.

I've heard mostly bad things about the Sig Mosquito. For starters I've heard it's not even really a Sig, but made by GSG. GSG makes zinc guns.

 

[velillen]

I've heard mostly bad things about the Sig Mosquito. For starters I've heard it's not even really a Sig, but made by GSG. GSG makes zinc guns.

what have you heard bad about it? And yeah i know someone else makes it and not sig (cant remember right GSG should right though). Only bad things i heard was people complaining about it being picky on ammo. Which is the same as a quite a few 22'. That and most people try to use the federal bulk in it right out of the box and dont realize they need to change the spring for lighter load ammo. Honestly thats about the only disliked thing i've heard about it.

 

[shortylickens]

I've heard mostly bad things about the Sig Mosquito. For starters I've heard it's not even really a Sig, but made by GSG. GSG makes zinc guns.

Well there you go.
You still dont have anything bad to say about Sig, do you?

 

[shortylickens]

I put around ~200rds through the SR22, ~20rds through the Bodyguard .380, and ~60rds through the P250 today. One FTF from the SR22, but otherwise flawless.

I'm really itching to shoot the 1911, but .45 is so expensive. $20 worth of ammo is gone within 10 minutes of shooting. It's really too bad, it's by far my favorite pistol to shoot. Accurate as heck too.

http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-ammo-45acp185fmjmbi-1000

Two years of shooting.

 

[olds]

Nice gift to yourself - just bought myself a .22 also this week, in my case the Ruger SR22. Mind if I ask what the final price was on the Mosquito? Got mine on sale for $288 and couldn't be happier.

Where for $288?

 

[Merad]

http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-ammo-45acp185fmjmbi-1000

Two years of shooting.

http://www.surplusammo.com/45-acp-230-grain-fmj-bvac-1000-rounds-remanufactured-bulk/

 

[CurseTheSky]

http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-ammo-45acp185fmjmbi-1000

Two years of shooting.

The problem is, 1000rnds wouldn't last me two years. If I had a good stock of 45 ACP, I'd probably be shooting 100+ rounds every time I went, which is once or twice a week lately.

Edit: and since we have a couple other 1911 pictures in the thread right now, he's the model that I have:

The only difference is that I changed my grips out for Hogue black rubber grips with the classic diamond pattern.

 

[shortylickens]

/Jealous

Although I'll put it up against My Springfield LW Champion Operator... that I payed $999 for ... any day.

You got rails which are still not common enough.
TLE is supposed to mean tactical law enforcement. Supposedly LAPD SWAT uses that gun. Why they left off rails I cant imagine. Not like I intend to carry the thing around, but still.

 

[pontifex]

http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-ammo-45acp185fmjmbi-1000

Two years of shooting.

1000 rds is 2 years? maybe if you only go every few months and only shoot 1 box.

 

[glenn1]

Where for $288?

Local store.

http://www.bullseyestl.com/mapdirectios.nxg

 

[Pia]

You got rails which are still not common enough.
TLE is supposed to mean tactical law enforcement. Supposedly LAPD SWAT uses that gun. Why they left off rails I cant imagine. Not like I intend to carry the thing around, but still.

What's the point of under-rails on a handgun, really? Put anything on there, and the gun becomes bulkier and harder to carry, and needs a new holster. Flashlight, for instance, is not too great. You'll have to point a gun at everything even if you only want light on it. The light will usually be at your centerline which makes it a good point to aim. And you can't use the light separately, like for area lighting or as a striking tool, which you could with a separate light.

I admit I have found one application of under-rails personally interesting. That is an external frame which slips on a Glock pistol and turns it into a shoulder-fired weapon. Even this, though, is only interesting to me because of legislation which makes it difficult for me to get some "proper" shoulder-fired weapons, like a TP9 with stock.

 

[IGemini]

What's the point of under-rails on a handgun, really? Put anything on there, and the gun becomes bulkier and harder to carry, and needs a new holster. Flashlight, for instance, is not too great. You'll have to point a gun at everything even if you only want light on it. The light will usually be at your centerline which makes it a good point to aim. And you can't use the light separately, like for area lighting or as a striking tool, which you could with a separate light.

I admit I have found one application of under-rails personally interesting. That is an external frame which slips on a Glock pistol and turns it into a shoulder-fired weapon. Even this, though, is only interesting to me because of legislation which makes it difficult for me to get some "proper" shoulder-fired weapons, like a TP9 with stock.

No argument with the bulkiness, though it's not so much an issue if you use a more generic holster made to fit lights. Probably hardest with a CCW.

The best use of rails for most people is the nighttime home defense argument. If you have a mounted flashlight, at the very least it is one less thing you need to reach for. If you can't find a flashlight for whatever reason, it won't turn out well if you can't identify an intruder vs. a family member etc. It also allows for a free hand should you need it; regardless of what tactic you use, your 2nd hand won't always be shining where you want it to be and you won't have the advantage of that two-handed grip. The weight isn't a huge factor unless it's mounted on something already heavy--and mounted flashlights are invariably lighter than their full-sized alternatives. The argument could go either way, it's just another option. I'm a fan of Viridian lights/lasers that only add a couple ounces and are quite lean.

That "carbine platform" for Glock is probably the least interesting use of a rail--SIG also makes one called the ACP. Buying one with a stock still needs to be registered as an SBR. It might save you money vs a true SBR but it won't save on the paperwork.

 

[RampantAndroid]

People have said SIG's quality has tanked, though I've no first hand experience - I don't like the look of Sigs. I'm personally looking for a good 1911 that's all steel that I can run thousands of rounds through, unlike my CCO (which is a carry gun, aluminum and light. And kicks a bit.)

 

[jpeyton]

People have said SIG's quality has tanked

I avoid the argument altogether by sticking to W. German Sigs.

They're less expensive than new retail Sigs by a long shot. I picked up a W. German P220 and P226 for less than $900 for the pair; they're closer to $800 each retail.

 

[gorcorps]

I avoid the argument altogether by sticking to W. German Sigs.

They're less expensive than new retail Sigs by a long shot. I picked up a W. German P220 and P226 for less than $900 for the pair; they're closer to $800 each retail.

Where do you find such things?

 

[jpeyton]

Where do you find such things?

Check the used gun counter at your local gun shop, or gun classifieds. The P226 I bought from the classifieds, the P220 from a gun shop.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Oh - also, with 1911s: avoid Kimber. They build series 80 1911s with the godawful swartz safety. Get a Series 70 1911 (springfield, smith & wesson, Dan Wesson, Rock Island, etc.)

 

[IGemini]

I'm a huge SIG fan. Loved them when I first tried the P226 and got 2" groups at 10-15 yards; even with the plain, dirtier-than-sin .40S&W range rental I used. I still have the silhouette. Current production for SIGs has gone to manufacturing frames in Exeter SIGARMS while importing the slides from the Germany plant. It might not be so bad if prices changed accordingly, but there are so many complete German SIGs in circulation that there's not much reason to get the newer stuff.

1911s are good. I liked the Para-Ordnance GI when I fired it, for being an 80-type 1911. Finish wears down faster than most though. I'm not a purist but am kinda picky about 1911s, sometimes they just put too much crap on them. Rails, skeleton hammers and modern sights are fine, but WTF is with every maker putting beavertail grips now? Widened magwells are also just ugly.

 

[RampantAndroid]

From a quick search online, there's tons of reliability complaints. No price drop can make a sig worth it, if they are THAT unreliable. A Rock Island 1911 is a better bet (and they are getting better, surprisingly!)

Beavertail...grips? You mean the grip safety? It's comfy. You mean bobtailed grips? They mean the gun doesn't print on your shirt when carrying; owning one I can say non-bobtailed 1911s are less easy to carry.

 

[BladeVenom]

but WTF is with every maker putting beavertail grips now?

Hammer bite.

Widened magwells are also just ugly.

I hate the way those looks. I'd have to be in a competition for money before I'd ever consider putting one of those on my gun.

 

[IGemini]

Eh, bobtails just scream "sharp object" to my eyes. 1911s are just too heavy to me to consider a first choice for carrying anyway, so not a big deal. Never had an issue with slide/hammer bite, though.

I was referring to the price drop strictly from a less-cost of production by doing some of it in-country. But all the same, I'm not finding a lot of SIG complaints, at least none that pins it squarely on Exeter production. Those I do find are ones other manus see at least some of the time.