From a quick search online, there's tons of reliability complaints. No price drop can make a sig worth it, if they are THAT unreliable. A Rock Island 1911 is a better bet (and they are getting better, surprisingly!)
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Looking at that price list, I just found out Taurus makes an 8 shot revolver in .17 HMR. What is the point of that round in a revolver, let alone pistol? IIRC, that round is great for varmint/pest control, with a very flat trajectory for longer range shooting. Seems like shooting that round out of a short barrel would negate some of that rounds purported advantages.
From a quick search online, there's tons of reliability complaints. No price drop can make a sig worth it, if they are THAT unreliable.
Not everything has to be practical. For instance, check out this one for example - Spanish 3 barrel, 18 shot, 6.35mm revolver:
Not the case where I live. You can stick a stock or anything else on a pistol, and it stays a pistol as long as the stock can be easily detached (read: without using tools). An equivalent gun with tool attached stock is an easily concealable weapon of mass destruction, near impossible to get a permit for.That "carbine platform" for Glock is probably the least interesting use of a rail--SIG also makes one called the ACP. Buying one with a stock still needs to be registered as an SBR. It might save you money vs a true SBR but it won't save on the paperwork.
Eh, bobtails just scream "sharp object" to my eyes. 1911s are just too heavy to me to consider a first choice for carrying anyway, so not a big deal. Never had an issue with slide/hammer bite, though.
I was referring to the price drop strictly from a less-cost of production by doing some of it in-country. But all the same, I'm not finding a lot of SIG complaints, at least none that pins it squarely on Exeter production. Those I do find are ones other manus see at least some of the time.
The top one, the CCO, is bobtailed. The bottom is a normal 1911. The removal of that back edge means the gun won't show through your shirt as easily. Furthermore, my 1911 CCO is lighter, unloaded, than some glocks.
I think the top pick is a bobtailed Commander. A CCO uses an Officers frame, and you can only round the corner, not cut it off like that.
Our Classic Bobtail has proven so popular due to its concealable profile that we decided to bring you something even more concealable -- the Concealed Carry Officer. This model is built as a classic CCO, with a Commander slide on top of an Officer frame.
I don't think you know what a bobtail is. It removes the edge on the back of the grip.
The 1911 is a fun platform, but at this point it's dated and I have a hard time seeing why you'd choose one for carry. The CCO ...
The 1911 is a fun platform, but at this point it's dated and I have a hard time seeing why you'd choose one for carry. The CCO linked a few posts ago is basically the same size and weight as the full size Glock 21... except the G21 gives you almost double the capacity... The G30 is a smaller platform, and still carries more rounds. Not to mention that both of the Glocks are 1/3rd the price of the CCO.
The Dan Wesson CCO is better looking, has a thumb safety, better trigger pull, more accurate, you can change the grips, and it's more customizable.
The 1911 is a fun platform, but at this point it's dated and I have a hard time seeing why you'd choose one for carry. The CCO linked a few posts ago is basically the same size and weight as the full size Glock 21... except the G21 gives you almost double the capacity... The G30 is a smaller platform, and still carries more rounds. Not to mention that both of the Glocks are 1/3rd the price of the CCO.
The primary advantage of the 1911 over other pistol types is the trigger pull. No Glock, Sig, Beretta, Walther, H&K, or S&W can equal the single-action pull of a quality 1911. As for ammo capacity, there are double-stack 1911s that off similar capacity.
S&W makes 1911s. Also, SA revolver trigger pulls are WAY better than a 1911's pull. Feels like a glass rod breaking.
The Dan Wesson CCO is better looking
has a thumb safety
better trigger pull, more accurate
you can change the grips
and it's more customizable
1911's will also have a more narrow slide than the Glock.
Yeah, forgot about that.
But I'd argue a tuned 1911 is about equal to a quality revolver for SA trigger pulls. I've definitely shot better with my 1911 than my friend's old Colt Detective Special, even on single action.
Irrelevant. Self defense is about hitting a man sized targets at about 5-10 yards while under extreme stress. Whether a gun is capable of 2" or 3" groups at 25 yards from a ransom rest really has no bearing on the situation. It's all on the shooter.
Why would a customizable gun (or one that's actually customized to be specific) get you in more trouble?
Really? All 1911 triggers have some pull in the beginning before the break, and are usually a 5 lb trigger pull. My S&W revolvers are 2lb SA trigger pulls, with no pull before the break. I'd vote my revolvers as a better pull any day of the week when compared to a 1911; that said, the 1911 is the king of semi-auto handguns, and the glock has to have the worst pull of any semi-auto.
Who cares? A carry gun is a tool.
Irrelevant at best, at worst personal preference. Potayto potahto.
Irrelevant. Self defense is about hitting a man sized targets at about 5-10 yards while under extreme stress. Whether a gun is capable of 2" or 3" groups at 25 yards from a ransom rest really has no bearing on the situation. It's all on the shooter.
There's not exactly a shortage of ways to customize Glock grips, but I'll give you this one.
I, for one, specifically avoid using a customized gun for carry. If you have to use it, you're basically handing the DA rope to help him/her hang you. Is it really likely to matter? Probably not. But it could mean the difference between many years in prison or going free. I'd rather not risk it.
I don't have a G21 on hand but the slide of my G19 is essentially the same as my 1911. The G21 may be slightly larger, but it's a miniscule difference.
I don't have a problem if people choose to carry 1911s. Hell, I don't have a problem if you chose to carry single shot .22 derringers, or even nothing. But the 1911 has significant drawbacks compared to modern designs.
Well like all things gun it's YMMV I guess. I'll admit I don't have much experience with revolvers. Aside from my friend's detective special I put a few rounds through a friendly shooter's .357 (was a S&W, can't remember the model) and had roughly the same experience on SA.