exdeath
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- Jan 29, 2004
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At the same time most people on this forum likely wouldn't consider an HK due to cost either
False.
My daily carry is a USP 40.
At the same time most people on this forum likely wouldn't consider an HK due to cost either
Like measuring output at the diode vs. outside the plastic covering it, and that's one of the less shitty things they do.And dont get all bent out of shape over lumens. Most companies have bullshit methods for calculating them. You would do better to get both and a light meter and check for yourself.
I said most. Just the impression I get. Or maybe just the impression from a few posters in this thread....False.
My daily carry is a USP 40.
I said most. Just the impression I get. Or maybe just the impression from a few posters in this thread....
If I MUST have a laser on my pistol, I'd go green. Easier for your eyes to pick up. Viridian C5L or Streamlight TLR2G are good options around $250-275, the former if you don't want a lot of bulk.
After going back and looking at the Dan Wessons, I really liked the looks of that RZ-10 10MM until I saw the $1350 price tag.
But yeah pay for what ya get, it looks very nice.
http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-rz-10/
I guess are others around, hadn't really gun shopped in awhile nd all ready have enough pistols I haven't shot in a long time.
http://10mm-firearms.com/general-discussion/will-they-ever-make-dan-wesson-razorbacks-again/
I guess there are some older ones still around, but still more than I'd go one one myself though they look freaking great and 10 MM are real beasts.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/25292...or-sale--dan-wesson-razorback-rz-10-10mm-1911
Sorry, bit much there I guess, but I had my interest piqued and started looking at a few things.
Yeah I know, the .45 ACP was the real one there I believe, was made for stopping things in it's tracks.10mm 1911 style guns are either cheap and dangerous, or expensive and good. 10mm isn't the best cartridge for the 1911 design, really. That said, owning a Dan Wesson CCO I can attest to the reliability and overall quality of the gun - it's a great gun.
10mm 1911 style guns are either cheap and dangerous, or expensive and good.
Have you tried the HK45?
I think the number refers to the light not the laser. I would still like a ballpark reference of what 100 lumens is?
Yeah, was one of the reasons I was curious about it to begin with, have seen that since about the late 80's and law enforcement started using them.If you ever have ever watched Razor Dobbs Alive, he uses a RZ-10 for hunting, and for backup when bow hunting. A lot more stopping power than a .45.
Ya'll just reminded me that I want a usp45 really bad
Yeah green is what I want. Less bulk the better. The Viridian X5L seems to be for full size guns. What is the difference in 154 lumens and 100 lumens? How bright is a 100 lumens?
Seconded. I wouldn't mind one in .40 even though the USP is one of those pistols that doesn't really carve into capacity between that and .45. In 9mm it was the most controllable pistol I'd ever fired.
I've only really used a C5L that worked fine even with a battery change so I can't speak to the QC issues. As to how bright 100lm is, the best answer I can say is "bright enough." The directed light is enough to blind/disorient someone even without the strobe. The C5L's bulb will work pretty well unless you're outside trying to illuminate something fairly far away.
Were there any other brands/models you considered besides the two you mentioned above?
I've never understood why weapon lights are so expensive. A Streamlight Nano is like $5-10 and would is quite bright in a truly dim room. I keep one of their ~$30 pen lights in my pocket, and that sucker is blinding. Still quite small; the couple AAA batteries it used are what give it it's size.
For the $150 or more I see a lot of weapon lights go for, it should be utterly absurd. And come with a rechargeable Li-Ion battery.
I think the light and laser market capitalizes on 'legacy' pricing...i.e. the stuff used to be stupid-expensive, so they can still get away with charging more than the tech is now worth.
Have you tried the HK45?