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[Svnla]

Ok, I just installed two (front and rear) MBUS Magpul sights and one Primary Arms red micro dot on my brand new PSA AR-15. Pics are coming.

MBUS (not pro) = https://store.magpul.com/category/44 (the ones I have are the bottom two in the link)

Primary Arms micro red dot = http://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_Micro_Dot_With_Removable_Base_p/md-06.htm

What is the best (easiest) to zero both of them? TIA.

 

[sa7an1]

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might wanna check on that MBUS link

 

[Farmer]

Ok, I just installed two (front and rear) MBUS Magpul sights and one Primary Arms red micro dot on my brand new PSA AR-15. Pics are coming.

MBUS (not pro) = http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-irwin/20-things-poor-people-really-do_b_4533691.html

Primary Arms micro red dot = http://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_Micro_Dot_With_Removable_Base_p/md-06.htm

What is the best (easiest) to zero both of them? TIA.

You should zero both of them if you hope on both of them being useful.

I would zero the red dot first. Then zero the ironsights to the parallax-free red dot.

AR15s are easy to get on paper. Take the upper off and remove the BCG and charging handle and place it on a rest. Look through the bore, and adjust your sight until what you see through the bore is what you see looking through the sight. After that, assemble the gun and zero as you normally would. Start from 10 yards or so and go out from there. I would use a 50 yard zero on a 223 AR15.

EDIT: Off topic, but that HuffPost link is also retarded. Really? Poor people have shittier lives than rich people? Who would've thought! Maybe that is a direct result of them being poor! Holy shitballs!

 

[clamum]

Guys give me your top 3 accessories you should get first for an AR15. Please list them in order of importance.

For me:

1.) New pistol grip. I fucking hate the stock one with that ridiculous piece of horseshit nub in it. I went with a Magpul MOE grip.

2.) Sling. I have a Magpul MS2 which converts from a one point to a two point sling in just a second. I'd get the newer MS3 though as IMO the fabric from the MS2 is shitty.

I couldn't really come up with another one. Yeah you can say scope, or EOTech/Aimpoint, or vertical grip, or whatever, but to me none of those are really more important than any other one. The above two things, for me, are my first choices (and even then, the sling isn't necessarily mandatory, but it's a nice thing to have and shit, why not?).

EDIT: I'll move "Sling" to number 3 and for number 2 I'll say: "Magazines." I recommend Magpul PMAGs (I like the windowed ones myself) but even GI mags are ok although I would make sure they have an anti-tilt follower in them.

 

[velillen]

You should zero both of them if you hope on both of them being useful.

I would zero the red dot first. Then zero the ironsights to the parallax-free red dot.

AR15s are easy to get on paper. Take the upper off and remove the BCG and charging handle and place it on a rest. Look through the bore, and adjust your sight until what you see through the bore is what you see looking through the sight. After that, assemble the gun and zero as you normally would. Start from 10 yards or so and go out from there. I would use a 50 yard zero on a 223 AR15.

Thats how i start with my AR's and bolt guns. Some other guns as well depending if you can see down the bore or not. Use a sweatshirt or rear bag to hold the upper/gun while you do it. Take out the bolt or BCG and look down the bore and adjust the sight. Works well even if trying ot sight in at 100 yards with an optic. Iron sights still work best to sight in at 25 or 50

Doing that you should be able to get on paper and zero'd in within 3-5 shots....might take a few more to get it truly zero'd.

I use a 100 yard zero for pretty much all my guns. But that is the distance i generally shoot them at the most. My 300blk pistol will probably be a 50 yard zero though.

Only time this method doesnt work well is if shooting something like 300blk subsonic or a 45-70 with heavy bullets. The drop can be a bit much so you end up low and off paper still. Though just aim high is what ive done in the past (ie aim at the top of the target)

 

[Svnla]

might wanna check on that MBUS link

LOL, my bad. It was about another story. I forgot to clear it out right before I had to leave the house. At least it was not a porn link.

Farmer and Vellilen, I will use your suggestions and see if it will work. I will probably do about 300 yards or less. No sniper wannabe here.

 

[sa7an1]

LOL, my bad. It was about another story. I forgot to clear it out right before I had to leave the house. At least it was not a porn link.

honestly i think there would have been much more colorful replies if it was

but the previous reply byvelilen is the damn near easiest way of zeroing an AR

 

[PliotronX]

You guys who carry IWB in warmer climates, what do you use to inhibit corrosion?

 

[shortylickens]

You guys who carry IWB in warmer climates, what do you use to inhibit corrosion?

Militec

 

[Farmer]

LOL, my bad. It was about another story. I forgot to clear it out right before I had to leave the house. At least it was not a porn link.

Farmer and Vellilen, I will use your suggestions and see if it will work. I will probably do about 300 yards or less. No sniper wannabe here.

Bullet flight out of a barrel inclined with respect to the horizon is parabolic with the maximum occuring away from the muzzle.

That means a 50 yard zero will be exactly zero again at 250 yards. For ranges less than 50 yards or more than 250 yards, your point of impact will be low. In between 50 and 250 yards, your point of impact will be high. This means that, aiming chest-level, a 50 yard zero is good to hit man-size targets out to 400 yards. A 100 yard zero will do so out to 300 yards, beyond that you will be hitting low. However, the 100 yard zero has almost not point-of-impact shift from 0 to 200 yards.

You generally pick a zero distance that results in the minimum average point of impact shift throughout the range of distances you expect to shoot at. This means most people go for 100 yards or 50 yards, but really you can zero whereever you want, as long as you consistently hold over and under correctly for the distance you are shooting at.

A picture is worth a thousand words:

This, of course, depends on the load you are using. The above chart was for 55 grain NATO ball.

 

[shortylickens]

Finally got a West German Sig. Not many floating around any more.

Pics to follow.

 

[Merad]

You guys who carry IWB in warmer climates, what do you use to inhibit corrosion?

Corrosion? I carry a Glock. :sneaky:

 

[adairusmc]

Picked up a new shotgun yesterday, a mossberg 930 SPX. Been eyeing one of these for a while, and they were on sale so i could not resist.

Posing with my mossberg 500 tactical six shot -

 

[Svnla]

Not sure if anyone posted this or not but S+W is saying they will have M+P Shield in 9mm and .40 WIHTOUT the safety.

First Glock made a more slender gun and now this. Gun companies are listenning to their customers FTW.

Link = http://www.personaldefenseworld.com...g-mp-shield-without-thumb-safety/?scrape=true

 

[slugg]

Solved my sweaty hands problem with my Glock 19:

If anyone wants the printable template I made, just PM me.

 

[Jeeebus]

Not sure if anyone posted this or not but S+W is saying they will have M+P Shield in 9mm and .40 WIHTOUT the safety.

First Glock made a more slender gun and now this. Gun companies are listenning to their customers FTW.

Link = http://www.personaldefenseworld.com...g-mp-shield-without-thumb-safety/?scrape=true

I've already seen them for sale for dirt cheap. Seriously tempted to replace my PM9.

 

[MtnMan]

Solved my sweaty hands problem with my Glock 19:

If anyone wants the printable template I made, just PM me.

Talon grips are an excellent solution to grip problems. Have them on my Springfield XD's and they are great. Have been on for about a year, and look like new after daily carry, frequent shooting and cleanings.

 

[Merad]

Solved my sweaty hands problem with my Glock 19:

I've never been a real fan of the grip tape approach. Just isn't comfortable to me. This is why I've been moving my Glocks to gen 4's...

 

[slugg]

Talon grips are an excellent solution to grip problems. Have them on my Springfield XD's and they are great. Have been on for about a year, and look like new after daily carry, frequent shooting and cleanings.

Talon grips are good, I'm sure. But they're like $20 a pop, plus shipping. I got my grip tape for $5 at a local skate park, and if I had to estimate, I could probably make grips for 6 more guns.

In the end, I would say I spent way too much time on this project, mainly because I was trying to come up with a perfect, printable template that other people could use. But sometimes doing something yourself is a bit more satisfying.

I've never been a real fan of the grip tape approach. Just isn't comfortable to me. This is why I've been moving my Glocks to gen 4's...

Mine's a gen 4. With the grip tape, I can actually manage to get an even better grip, especially with my off-hand. And since my hands do sweat a lot, this really matters. Skateboard grip tape is designed to function while wet!

 

[MtnMan]

Talon grips are good, I'm sure. But they're like $20 a pop, plus shipping. I got my grip tape for $5 at a local skate park, and if I had to estimate, I could probably make grips for 6 more guns.

17.99 free shipping, and a perfect fit, first time. I prefer the rubberized grips vs. the sandpaper, as it doesn't snag on clothing.

I know people that put a section of a bicycle inner tube on a $500 - $600 dollar gun. Really :\

 

[Svnla]

US Army is planning to replace its pistols = http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-more-reliable-gun-packing-better-knock-down/

 

[shortylickens]

They already do have something with more knockdown: its called the 5.56.


Seriously, are they trying to say they regularly engage in so much pistol combat they actually NEED a bigger gun?

What the fuck is going on with the army? If close quarters work is such a big deal why did they nix the bayonet training?

In any case, the 10mm round is probably exactly what they need. Quite a bit more powerful than the 9mm para. and theres already many guns out there.

Also, if they could get a better quality brand than last time that would probably help a lot.
We already spend 50 million dollars on one fucking plane, the government can't use the fiscal responsibility excuse this time.

 

[shortylickens]

OH, similar to what I have:


http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/arms...843_03_west_german_sig_p230_sl_9mm_ku_640.jpg

http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/arms...261_02_sig_sauer_p230_sl_stainless_38_640.jpg

West german P230 SL.

I dont know what SL means. I guess its German for "single stack".

Very nice gun. But the guy who sold it only wiped down the outside. He didnt even clean out the barrel. Lord knows how long all that gunk was in there, rotting away the bore. Oh, and it reeked of cheap cigars. I had to scrub the thing good with two different cleaners, then cover in protectant.

 

[Merad]

They already do have something with more knockdown: its called the 5.56 7.62.

FTFY.

In any case, the 10mm round is probably exactly what they need. Quite a bit more powerful than the 9mm para. and theres already many guns out there.

They won't, for the same reason that the FBI dropped it. It's too much for joe average to handle.

.40 is probably out. Part of the reason they're dropping the M9 is because they say maintenance costs are becoming an issue. Most .40s that I know of are based on 9mm designs. I doubt they'll hold up to long term use and abuse well enough. Unless some ambitious company decides to design a new .40 from scratch...

I really can't see the army adopting another single stack .45 design. The P227 and FNX-45 will probably be strong contenders though. But I wouldn't be surprised if they just go with another 9mm.

Edit: I wonder if this might prompt Glock to make models with an external safety? It looks like it wouldn't be that hard put it in the same place as the G18's selector switch. That could make the G17 and G21 contenders as well.

 

[slugg]

17.99 free shipping, and a perfect fit, first time. I prefer the rubberized grips vs. the sandpaper, as it doesn't snag on clothing.

I know people that put a section of a bicycle inner tube on a $500 - $600 dollar gun. Really :\

Well, put it to you this way. Considering the time I put into making my own nice grip, I would just buy the Talon product! But hey, whatever. It was fun.