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[Tiamat]

Guys need your help again- I'm looking for a 12 gauge shot gun, mainly for home defense. I'm not a member of a club which has sporting clays available at this time, so it really only needs one purpose.

I would like to attach a flashlight and potentially a shoulder sling if possible. I also live in CT where we have the "assault weapon" ban which makes have a pistol grip on a semi auto shotgun a felony *sigh* so keep that in mind.

I'm considering the Mossberg Model 930

I got my wife a Remington 870 tactical magpul. I took out all of the stock spacers and used the lowest cheek insert and it fits her very well. Also, I purchased a magpul illumination kit, a magpul L4 rail, and installed a streamlight tlr1 with switch. Its a nice setup. She's quite confident with it.

 

[Svnla]

Interesting story about the M4 replacement = http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ement-program-competitor-bests-existing-m4a1/

 

[Zargon]

Gander Mountain has it locally for $50 than CTD, so I'd rather buy there. That begs two questions, why not CTD, and what other online vendors should I check?

they did some serious gouging post newtown, and some people refuse to buy from them now

 

[Fenixgoon]

Please don't buy it from CTD

what's bad about CTD? i've only used them as a price check, more or less.

they did some serious gouging post newtown, and some people refuse to buy from them now

oh, fuckers. i wonder how many took advantage of the heightened demand.

 

[JackBurton]

they did some serious gouging post newtown, and some people refuse to buy from them now

Yep. I refuse to shop there anymore. I hope they enjoyed their short lived price gouging window.

 

[schneiderguy]

I SHOT MY GARAND LAST WEEKEND. I STILL HAVE A BONER. IS THIS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?

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[mafia]

Going to try out my new Colt LE6920 this weekend! So excited!

 

[irishScott]

Interesting story about the M4 replacement = http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ement-program-competitor-bests-existing-m4a1/

I'm not shocked, PR is PR. Their decision probably makes sense though. To warrant replacing every serviceman's rifle in the US army a rifle has to do more than marginally outperform. The question isn't so much "are there better options than the M4" but "is the M4 good enough?"

 

[irishScott]

I SHOT MY GARAND LAST WEEKEND. I STILL HAVE A BONER. IS THIS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?

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Go shoot some .357 out of a Ruger LCR. Instant stick softener.

 

[z1ggy]

Gander Mountain has it locally for $50 than CTD, so I'd rather buy there. That begs two questions, why not CTD, and what other online vendors should I check?

Yeah I only have 3 firearms, one I got from Gunbroker, the other locally, and the other from a friend.

What other places besides CTD are there that offer good service and prices? Most local places charge and arm & leg, so I'm pretty much looking exclusively online.

And to the guy who talked about the barrel swap... I saw that version too, but something turned me off from it... I don't remember what.

 

[z1ggy]

I got my wife a Remington 870 tactical magpul. I took out all of the stock spacers and used the lowest cheek insert and it fits her very well. Also, I purchased a magpul illumination kit, a magpul L4 rail, and installed a streamlight tlr1 with switch. Its a nice setup. She's quite confident with it.

Do these come normally ported/vented?

Edit: Also, I keep reading arguments online back and forth for pump vs semi for home defense. The biggest thing in my mind is while many people argue pump is hands down better, a guy made a good argument against it. His first point was, no matter how good you think you are, you will always shoot faster with a semi. I think that needs no explanation on that one. Secondly, he said pumps can still fail to feed if you don't rack the pump correctly, which I worry about if my g/f needs to handle this. Since she is shorter and has shorter arms than I do, I worry she may not actually get a round into the chamber which could turn out to be a deadly mistake. Of course a semi can fail to feed as well, then you are equally screwed I guess, too.

 

[Zargon]

I SHOT MY GARAND LAST WEEKEND. I STILL HAVE A BONER. IS THIS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?
nah totally normal

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Going to try out my new Colt LE6920 this weekend! So excited!

nice!!

Do these come normally ported/vented?

Edit: Also, I keep reading arguments online back and forth for pump vs semi for home defense. The biggest thing in my mind is while many people argue pump is hands down better, a guy made a good argument against it. His first point was, no matter how good you think you are, you will always shoot faster with a semi. I think that needs no explanation on that one. Secondly, he said pumps can still fail to feed if you don't rack the pump correctly, which I worry about if my g/f needs to handle this. Since she is shorter and has shorter arms than I do, I worry she may not actually get a round into the chamber which could turn out to be a deadly mistake. Of course a semi can fail to feed as well, then you are equally screwed I guess, too.

the other nice thing about a semi(ok mMOST of them) is they are gas cycled, so they eat some recoil so they shoot softer as well

 

[Svnla]

Going to try out my new Colt LE6920 this weekend! So excited!

Price? PSA has 6720 for $800 plus FFL fee. Free shipping last week.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...-ar-15-5-56nato-16-carbine-pencil-barrel.html

 

[veri745]

I'm not shocked, PR is PR. Their decision probably makes sense though. To warrant replacing every serviceman's rifle in the US army a rifle has to do more than marginally outperform. The question isn't so much "are there better options than the M4" but "is the M4 good enough?"

It's not like they would "replace every serviceman's rifle" in one go. Rather, it would be buying a different rifle for new weaponry, and retiring the old rifles as they need to be replaced.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

What ever happened to OP? I know he changed his name from Kazaam to ManBearPig, but then he vanished.

 

[mafia]

Price? PSA has 6720 for $800 plus FFL fee. Free shipping last week.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...-ar-15-5-56nato-16-carbine-pencil-barrel.html

I paid $1099 for mine at a local gun store.

 

[RampantAndroid]

what's bad about CTD? i've only used them as a price check, more or less.



oh, fuckers. i wonder how many took advantage of the heightened demand.

Yep. I refuse to shop there anymore. I hope they enjoyed their short lived price gouging window.

This - CTD was marginally cheaper before for ammo, then they gouged. I went to ammoseek and *never* looked back. They get not further patronage from me.

 

[Tiamat]

Do these come normally ported/vented?

Edit: Also, I keep reading arguments online back and forth for pump vs semi for home defense. The biggest thing in my mind is while many people argue pump is hands down better, a guy made a good argument against it. His first point was, no matter how good you think you are, you will always shoot faster with a semi. I think that needs no explanation on that one. Secondly, he said pumps can still fail to feed if you don't rack the pump correctly, which I worry about if my g/f needs to handle this. Since she is shorter and has shorter arms than I do, I worry she may not actually get a round into the chamber which could turn out to be a deadly mistake. Of course a semi can fail to feed as well, then you are equally screwed I guess, too.

The one my wife has come with a tactical choke that has holes all around. Both semi and pump have their merits. The magpul pump certainly helps give extra grip to ensure a full cycling, my wife hasn't short shucked the shot gun and she has short arms. The pump isn't overly stiff. I can see a semi having bonuses such as reduced recoil, just aim and pull trigger. However, maintaining a pump is less work, there are less parts. As long as she doesn't have trouble operating the charging handle of a semi, she should be fine. I'd certainly have a handgun too though if possible. Clearing a failure in a shotgun in an emergency situation in close quarters home might simply not be possible regardless of how practiced you are. I haven't compared weights, but it is reasonable to expect that a semi might weigh more than a pump shotty. This can affect the wife's ability and willingness to use/practice the shotgun. Also, make sure the stock fits your wife. Most adult shotguns have way too long length of pull for my wife. She can't get behind the sights and she cannot get a correct shooting stance. A youth model shotgun or the adjustable magpul stock in her rem. has a good length of pull - she can immediately get behind the sights and shoulder it correctly and comfortably.

 

[RampantAndroid]

My shotgun is an 1897 (though the bluing on mine doesn't look as dark as the one above) - I don't care how fast a semi auto can fire. I can come pretty darn close since this shotgun is one of the few to not have a trigger disconnect. If I hold down the trigger and pump, it fires. Repeat x 5. (added bonus: it was made in 1911 and still functions flawlessly - better than the brand new chinese knock offs.)

 

[CurseTheSky]

Do these come normally ported/vented?

Edit: Also, I keep reading arguments online back and forth for pump vs semi for home defense. The biggest thing in my mind is while many people argue pump is hands down better, a guy made a good argument against it. His first point was, no matter how good you think you are, you will always shoot faster with a semi. I think that needs no explanation on that one. Secondly, he said pumps can still fail to feed if you don't rack the pump correctly, which I worry about if my g/f needs to handle this. Since she is shorter and has shorter arms than I do, I worry she may not actually get a round into the chamber which could turn out to be a deadly mistake. Of course a semi can fail to feed as well, then you are equally screwed I guess, too.

Training with it will take away that concern. When you start driving, it's easy to hit the brake or accelerator too soft or too hard and not get the desired result. The mistake COULD be deadly. Luckily, most of us start out on easier roads with (hopefully) less fast decisions needed, and avoid major interstates or race tracks until we get the hang of it.

Using the pump on a shotgun, racking a slide to clear a malfunction, changing a magazine, etc. are all things that you need to train around. No matter what defensive weapon you're using, problems can happen. You don't have to go nuts and blast 10,000 rounds a year, but going out to practice with a box of ammo at least every few months is a good idea.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Training with it will take away that concern. When you start driving, it's easy to hit the brake or accelerator too soft or too hard and not get the desired result. The mistake COULD be deadly. Luckily, most of us start out on easier roads with (hopefully) less fast decisions needed, and avoid major interstates or race tracks until we get the hang of it.

Using the pump on a shotgun, racking a slide to clear a malfunction, changing a magazine, etc. are all things that you need to train around. No matter what defensive weapon you're using, problems can happen. You don't have to go nuts and blast 10,000 rounds a year, but going out to practice with a box of ammo at least every few months is a good idea.

Additionally if you want to, pick up some dummy 12ga rounds and just run them. Load the tube up and fire away (point in a safe direction, even though they're dummy rounds...) make sure every time you pump, you see a round fly out. If you're short shucking, focus on pulling the slide back all the way (do this stuff assertively.)

 

[Merad]

Go shoot some .357 out of a Ruger LCR. Instant stick softener.

I have a friend who recently picked up a Taurus .357 snubbie for a great price (bastard). I shot some of my 125gr .357 max loads through it and honestly wasn't that impressed.

The only thing I've shot that really gets uncomfortable is .44 Magnum.

 

[Zargon]

My shotgun is an 1897 (though the bluing on mine doesn't look as dark as the one above) - I don't care how fast a semi auto can fire. I can come pretty darn close since this shotgun is one of the few to not have a trigger disconnect. If I hold down the trigger and pump, it fires. Repeat x 5. (added bonus: it was made in 1911 and still functions flawlessly - better than the brand new chinese knock offs.)

<3

 

[irishScott]

I have a friend who recently picked up a Taurus .357 snubbie for a great price (bastard). I shot some of my 125gr .357 max loads through it and honestly wasn't that impressed.

The only thing I've shot that really gets uncomfortable is .44 Magnum.

Depends on the snubbie and it's construction. LCRs are around the 15 oz range IIRC. One of the few guns to make me adopt that old school FBI grip where you grasp your wrist with your off hand. Followup shots? Forget it lol. Maybe I just have weak wrists. I'm fine shooting .38, but the kick from .357 in that light a package is just plain unpleasant.

 

[schneiderguy]

My Garand will have a friend in ten days:

I told myself that I wasn't going to buy any more guns. That lasted about three weeks :awe: