I know it's cheaper, but I don't really want to build it or wait for shipping.
LOL, oh yeah, I expected the can of worms but I figured it wouldn't be as bad here since this isn't AR15.com or Reddit (shudder).You realize that you open a can of worms, right? In the AR15.com forum, folks bickered nonstop over which AR maker is the "best". Good luck to get a consensus.
Personally, I think BCM is good, in the same "group" as Daniel Defense, LMT, LaRue, Noveske, Spikes. If I have to pick one, I would pick LMT just because from my research and its reputation, nothing scientific.
I suppose what you're saying makes sense, though I've never seen hard evidence of their tighter specs over competing companies. There's no way I'd use peoples' anecdotal evidence from the Internet to say "well, there's more people reporting problems with CMMG than BCM so BCM must have tighter specs" (I'm not saying you're doing that), but it seems like that's what people are doing. It's just rare to have such a unanimous view of a company so it just makes me honestly curious.Mostly it involves the quality. Companies like BCM and Noveske have much tighter specs on what they're willing to sell. That normally translates into less problems. That's not to say that everything they make is pure magic, and not to say that companies like DPMS or CMMG make nothing but crap. It's just the odds of getting a part that has defects is higher with some companies. It's a quality vs quantity thing in a lot of those cases. It's def a YMMV thing, but I can say that I've yet to have any issues with anything I've gotten from Noveske, but can't say that about DPMS.
Pffft. Most of those tools shitting on $600 guns are armchair operators that you should ignore anyway. There's nothing wrong with these $600 rifles you'll see, for 99% of the people that are gonna use it. Like herm0016 said, I'd probably stay away from composite lowers (I don't think they're as durable as the normal aluminum lowers, though again for most people I bet they wouldn't see a difference).I still don't have an AR15. Looking at budget models. I want to try and keep it around $600, but it seems like most people shit all over the rifles in that price range. Del-Ton, DPMS, Core, Bushmaster. All of these are at an LGS for between $520-620. They also have an Anderson MSR, but it doesn't have a dust cover or forward assist at $575. What to do, what to do.
LOL, oh yeah, I expected the can of worms but I figured it wouldn't be as bad here since this isn't AR15.com or Reddit (shudder).
I suppose what you're saying makes sense, though I've never seen hard evidence of their tighter specs over competing companies. There's no way I'd use peoples' anecdotal evidence from the Internet to say "well, there's more people reporting problems with CMMG than BCM so BCM must have tighter specs" (I'm not saying you're doing that), but it seems like that's what people are doing. It's just rare to have such a unanimous view of a company so it just makes me honestly curious.
Pffft. Most of those tools shitting on $600 guns are armchair operators that you should ignore anyway. There's nothing wrong with these $600 rifles you'll see, for 99% of the people that are gonna use it. Like herm0016 said, I'd probably stay away from composite lowers (I don't think they're as durable as the normal aluminum lowers, though again for most people I bet they wouldn't see a difference).
ultimately this is the truth. It really depends on what and how often the AR is used. For the guy that just wants to go to the range once every few months and put 100 rounds down range, the lower cost AR will work for him. If you start really shooting it, and doing competitions then you'll start to see the worth in a AR that's built better. For the guy that just wants one to put in his safe so he can feel like a bad ass. then it doesn't matter what you get.
I plan on shooting more than 100 rounds every 3 months, but I'm not planning on competing with it - I don't really have any interest in gun games.
I can understand that skel, but resell is honestly never a consideration for me for anything I buy.
I'm leaning towards the Anderson. I would love to be able to up my budget by about a hundred bucks, then I could get an M&P15, but I'm fairly well stuck at $600 for the next six months.
I still don't have an AR15. Looking at budget models. I want to try and keep it around $600, but it seems like most people shit all over the rifles in that price range. Del-Ton, DPMS, Core, Bushmaster. All of these are at an LGS for between $520-620. They also have an Anderson MSR, but it doesn't have a dust cover or forward assist at $575. What to do, what to do.
What's the recoil on one of those things?
Do these count as guns? 2,700 pound projectile with a range of 25 miles
The last time they fired the mark 7 16 inch guns
What's the recoil on one of those things?
Yea, the ship moving sideways in the water is absorbing the energy. Haha.
From everything i've read it doesn't move them any