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adairusmc

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Ordered a new ruger precision rimfire rifle off of gunbroker this morning. My local shop has no idea when his order will arrive, so I decided to pay a $25 premium to get it shipped out. Looking forward to playing with it when it arrives. I already have a new scope and rings sitting here for it, as well as a couple of suppressors, so I am ready to go once it arrives.
 

Paladin3

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Anyone getting delayed "instant" NCIC background checks on firearms purchases? I've been delayed on all 6 gun purchases I've made in the last four years, but it's never really bothered me enough to do anything about it. I just wait and after 3 days with no response the sale has always gone through, as the law allows. I know if I had my CCW permit I could avoid having to do the background check, but since you can conceal carry in my state without one I've never done it. I guess I might have to now.

My local North 40 put Browning Buckmark Camper .22LR pistols on sale for $224.99 (after 10% mfg rebate) a few weeks back and it was too good of a deal to pass up. My background check was delayed, as I expected, but the shop informed me they have a new policy of only allowing the sale if the check comes back approved. No more going through with the sale after 3 days without a response, even though the law allows for such. I guess I can't blame them with the current political environment.

So, I've been waiting almost three weeks now with zero reply from the NCIC on my "instant" background check. After 30 days the background check application expires and I have to start the process all over. No reason for the delay has been given. I'll be interested to see where this goes.

Maybe I'm a wanted criminal and don't even know it.
 
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herm0016

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Anyone getting delayed "instant" NCIC background checks on firearms purchases?

Seems odd. This is what we get with who is in office. Saw that coming. do things first! due process later. What is the recourse? i have not had this issue, but it would be good to know what happens.
 

shortylickens

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I'd really love it if they started making the 1903 again.
The 1911 has been in constant production since its debut. No idea why the 1903 and 1908 fell out. Maybe its cuz of the Army.
 

DietDrThunder

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Nope, it only took around 20 minutes for me. I was wandering around the Cabella's and my name was called over the PA system. I was surprised it went so quickly.
 

adairusmc

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All of ours are run through the state police in Oregon, but I have never received a delay from them other than their call center just being busy.

However when the CMP did the instant check for my m1 I did get a delay, first time that has ever happened. It cleared in about 3 days or so, but it was strange.
 

Paladin3

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Anyone knows anything about Taurus guns? - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ecame-the-only-product-that-can-t-be-recalled

I know Bloomberg is not a fan of guns but if the story is true, then defective guns should be gone. Safety is paramount.

In other news, I did not buy any gun lately, money is a bit tight so no idea about how slow instance background check is.

Taurus makes decent budget guns, but they have made their share of turkeys over the years. The hit an all-time low when they manufactured a family of striker-fired, semi-auto pistols without internal trigger block safeties. That doesn’t make the pistol necessarily unsafe, but it is one less safety mechanism to keep the pistol from firing if the sear or trigger spring fails.

There is a video on youtube showing a Brazilian police office shaking one of these pistols and it fires. The trigger is absolutely flopping back and forth while he shakes it which is in no way normal. I suspect the trigger spring was either worn, broken or missing. Since there was no pressure keeping the trigger forward it fired when shaken, and probably would have fired if dropped as well.

This lack of trigger block safety feature may have caused several accidental shootings and at least one death. Taurus was sued a bunch and settled most (all?) of the suits out of court. In the end they voluntarily recalled 9 of their more popular models manufactured between 1997-2013, including: PT-111 Millennium, PT-132 Millennium, PT-138-Millennium, PT-140 Millennium, PT-145 Millennium, PT-745 Millennium, PT-609, PT-640 and PT-24/7. They did so without admitting the pistols had any defects.

Now, let me point out that it’s not unheard of for a gun to be made without an internal trigger block safety, but without one it makes the gun more dangerous to carry cocked with a round in the chamber. Also, excessive wear on internal parts can make any pistol or revolver unsafe. There has also been a lot of fake reports and even faked video of Taurus pistols unintentionally discharging. Lastly, I’ve never heard of a new out of the box Taurus PT111 firing when dropped or otherwise. The pistol shaken by the Brazilian cop obviously had some major internal wear or the trigger would never have flopped around like it did in the video. Also, the pistol in the Bloomberg story was purchased used from a pawn shop, and I have no idea if a reputable gunsmith every checked it over for safety concerns or what state of wear it was in.

Taurus has since started making a redesigned second generation of these pistols with a trigger block safety. They have been almost universally well reviewed as reliable and safe by those who own them and the gun media. I’ve owned one of the PT111 Millennium G2 (for gen 2) for three years. After 500ish rounds of cheap and self-defense ammo it’s never had a single FTE or FTF, let alone an accidental discharge. Review after review from actual Taurus owners say the same. In my experience most of the bad press against Taurus is from gun snobs who hate all budget firearms and/or have never even shot, let alone owned, one.

In my opinion as a retired newspaper journalist, the Bloomberg article it’s a POS hit piece. The questions they asked were insulting, and they failed to challenge or even question any of the accusations from the family or lawyers against Taurus, the gun shop and even the Walmart where they purchased their ammo. I saw zero evidence of any journalistic due diligence. The article was definitely written with an agenda and to get readers to turn off their brain in favor of their emotions.
 

DietDrThunder

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Well Illinois is taking the first step in making sure we won't be able to love our guns. Wherebwill they stop?

https://iotwreport.com/gun-confiscation-begins-in-illinois/
So what is the likely hood of the Illinois Senate passing this legislation along with the Governor signing it?

My thoughts are that I would not comply, therefore the state just made me a criminal when before I was not. Infringing on my Second Amendment Rights, I could see a case like this being filed and going to the Supreme Court.
 
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Challenger

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So what is the likely hood of the Illinois Senate passing this legislation along with the Governor signing it?

My thoughts are that I would not comply, therefore the state just made me a criminal when before I was not. Infringing on my Second Amendment Rights, I could see a case like this being files and going to the Supreme Court.

I agree. The thing is with the way the media is pushing for this kind of legislation and all of the protests going on, it will eventually happen unless we fight back.
 

adairusmc

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So what is the likely hood of the Illinois Senate passing this legislation along with the Governor signing it?

My thoughts are that I would not comply, therefore the state just made me a criminal when before I was not. Infringing on my Second Amendment Rights, I could see a case like this being filed and going to the Supreme Court.

I wouldn’t comply, just make sure not to think of your guns as illegal though, because that is racist. They are “undocumented”
 
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MtnMan

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Do I need an AR? ...... Nope
Do I own and AR? ....... Yep, simply because, purchased when Hillary looked like a slam dunk..... and it is fun to shoot.
Do I need multiple AR's? ...... Nope
Do I own multiple AR's? ...... Yep
Why? ...... Trump
 
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Well Illinois is taking the first step in making sure we won't be able to love our guns. Wherebwill they stop?

https://iotwreport.com/gun-confiscation-begins-in-illinois/
I see this as no more ridiculous as my state/county not allowing me to dine with a drink at 11AM on a Sunday, but I can buy $1,000 worth of booze at the liquor store at 10AM that same Sunday. Drinking something with a meal is deemed evil, saucing it up by the gallon in your car is a good thing. Bible beaters ... you got to love their insanity.
 

clamum

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So what is the likely hood of the Illinois Senate passing this legislation along with the Governor signing it?

My thoughts are that I would not comply, therefore the state just made me a criminal when before I was not. Infringing on my Second Amendment Rights, I could see a case like this being filed and going to the Supreme Court.
No idea on the odds of Senate passing and Governor signing (I'm a Michigander) but if it was me and I was affected by this bill, say by being a 19 year old, I wouldn't comply. If I was caught then it would be a misdemeanor offense (the first offense would be).

I was finally able to make it to the range this weekend. Mainly wanted to do two things: try out the M57 Tokarev I picked up recently, and get the f'ing suppressor off my 22/47 Lite, rofl.

Here's my Tokarev after the 5 pounds of Cosmoline was cleaned off it:



Tokarev worked but there's something wrong with the trigger. I kinda think I bumped something, or whatever, during disassembly/reassembly, but I don't know. The trigger works but only if you pull it back in just the right way. I did notice that the trigger "pack" you put in the rear of the frame did not sit flush on the rails; it stuck up maybe a 1/8-1/4" inch. I just pressed it down cause it was held up by a spring or something like that and seemed fine otherwise, but I don't recall seeing that behavior in other peoples' reassembly videos I've watched.

And my Liberty Cosmic suppressor is stuck on my 22/45 Lite pistol, haha. I guess I hand tightened it too much when I first put it on there and now I can't get it off, even when rapid firing the pistol and trying to unscrew it. But it looks like you can use a crescent wrench to get it off so I gotta pick one up that's big enough, as my biggest one is 7/8" and is slightly too small. HNNNGGG
 
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adairusmc

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I got a scope ordered for my incoming ruger precision rimfire, a vortex diamondback tactical 4-12. I had a bushnell rimfire scope they I also use on my 10/22, but I decided to put that in my ruger American rimfire and get this nicer vortex for the precision. The lack of adjustable parallax is the only concern I have for it, so we will have to see if it makes a good choice for the .22.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/diamondback_tactical_riflescopes


The rifle itself should be here tomorow or Wednesday, I am looking forward to seeing what it can do suppressed.
 

adairusmc

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The new ruger precision rimfire with the rest of my ruger rimfire family, the ruger American rimfire and my nicer 10/22. All suppressed.

 
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Raduque

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So, I've been looking for a Fudd Gun so I can go hunting with a buddy of mine. Was wanting to get a lever gun in .357 so I'd only have to carry one type of ammo. New ones run around 700 ish, Marlin or Henry, or 1200-1400 for a Winchester.

My boss and I got to talking about it, and it came up that he has one he doesn't use and has only fired about 8-10 times. Turns out it's a pre-Freedom Group "JM" octagonal barrel Marlin 1894C in .357. He's gonna sell it to me for $500. I'm so psyched. It's a beautiful gun.
 

adairusmc

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So, I've been looking for a Fudd Gun so I can go hunting with a buddy of mine. Was wanting to get a lever gun in .357 so I'd only have to carry one type of ammo. New ones run around 700 ish, Marlin or Henry, or 1200-1400 for a Winchester.

My boss and I got to talking about it, and it came up that he has one he doesn't use and has only fired about 8-10 times. Turns out it's a pre-Freedom Group "JM" octagonal barrel Marlin 1894C in .357. He's gonna sell it to me for $500. I'm so psyched. It's a beautiful gun.


That is a great deal, congrats!
 

AnMig

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The new ruger precision rimfire with the rest of my ruger rimfire family, the ruger American rimfire and my nicer 10/22. All suppressed.

Nice collection of 22s,

why do you have a suppressor for each one? cant you just transfer them to the gun you are using?
haven't looked into suppressors lately but aren't they 400$ each for a license/registration?

How loud is the suppressed semi (open bolt) compared to the closed bolt ones?

I have a 22lr Marlin closed bolt and when used with a suppressor and ammo less than 1,125 fps it is almost Hollywood quiet.

i enjoy my 22lr as i can shoot as much as i want without disturbing my neighbors
 

adairusmc

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Nice collection of 22s,

why do you have a suppressor for each one? cant you just transfer them to the gun you are using?
haven't looked into suppressors lately but aren't they 400$ each for a license/registration?

How loud is the suppressed semi (open bolt) compared to the closed bolt ones?

I have a 22lr Marlin closed bolt and when used with a suppressor and ammo less than 1,125 fps it is almost Hollywood quiet.

i enjoy my 22lr as i can shoot as much as i want without disturbing my neighbors


The stamps are $200 per suppressor, but i have several so my kids and my wife can enjoy them at the same time without having to share. The one in the middle is actually a 45 caliber suppressor that I also use for .22, and I have several more for other calibers and uses.

As far as the noise goes between the semi and the bolt, there is a huge difference. The quietest ammo I use, CCI quiet-22, won’t even cycle the action on that 10/22 but it is far quieter than an air rifle out of the bolt actions. For ammo that does cycle, taking the noise of that semi auto action out makes a huge difference.
 

DietDrThunder

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The stamps are $200 per suppressor, but i have several so my kids and my wife can enjoy them at the same time without having to share. The one in the middle is actually a 45 caliber suppressor that I also use for .22, and I have several more for other calibers and uses.

As far as the noise goes between the semi and the bolt, there is a huge difference. The quietest ammo I use, CCI quiet-22, won’t even cycle the action on that 10/22 but it is far quieter than an air rifle out of the bolt actions. For ammo that does cycle, taking the noise of that semi auto action out makes a huge difference.

How long did it take to get the tags from the ATF?
 

adairusmc

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How long did it take to get the tags from the ATF?

I got the outback II a long time ago, like 10 years ago, but back then the wait was around six months for a form 4 trust. On the silencerco and the AAC, which were ordered atthe same time, they were both around 8 months for a trust.
 
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