YAGT: OMG I love guns

[Svnla]

I need the permit to buy a gun, and I want to learn to shoot. I wrote in my reasoning for asking for unrestricted something like “I don’t plan to carry a gun and would prefer not to, but would like the option legally available to me in the unlikely event that COVID/other current events deteriorates to the point of compromising public safety”. No proof required when requesting a switch over to full unrestricted as far as I can gather.

The restriction is really just no carrying a loaded handgun in public. Still can transport it unloaded to the range, hunt, take it (loaded) on hikes in state parks.

You have to have a permit just to buy "a gun", just one? Is it a town/local/city/county requirement or state law?

Around here, you have to be legal age, have a clean record and then the gun seller would check your record on a computer system and after a few minutes, if you are clean, you are good to to pay for the gun(s) and bring it/them home with you. You even can carry hand gun open with you almost anywhere. I haven't seen anyone carry AR15 or rifle openly in public.

The only permit you have to have around here is if you want to carry "conceal". Then you would have to pay about $100 for a full 8 hours class plus cost of paperwork/permit and I think it is good for 5 years.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You have to have a permit just to buy "a gun", just one? Is it a town/local/city/county requirement or state law?

Around here, you have to be legal age, have a clean record and then the gun seller would check your record on a computer system and after a few minutes, if you are clean, you are good to to pay for the gun(s) and bring it/them home with you. You even can carry hand gun open with you almost anywhere. I haven't seen anyone carry AR15 or rifle openly in public.

The only permit you have to have around here is if you want to carry "conceal". Then you would have to pay about $100 for a full 8 hours class plus cost of paperwork/permit and I think it is good for 5 years.

Yes: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts

You cannot own a firearm without one of the permits. Each town PD has a LEO(or maybe more than one depending on size) that you submit your paperwork to. The LTC permit can take 60 days to process and is good for 6 years. There's other caveats like repoman point out, but nothing too crazy.

Edit: typos cuz GD mobile device

 

[repoman0]

You have to have a permit just to buy "a gun", just one? Is it a town/local/city/county requirement or state law?

Around here, you have to be legal age, have a clean record and then the gun seller would check your record on a computer system and after a few minutes, if you are clean, you are good to to pay for the gun(s) and bring it/them home with you. You even can carry hand gun open with you almost anywhere. I haven't seen anyone carry AR15 or rifle openly in public.

The only permit you have to have around here is if you want to carry "conceal". Then you would have to pay about $100 for a full 8 hours class plus cost of paperwork/permit and I think it is good for 5 years.

Once I get the license I could hoard to my heart’s content if I wanted. Sounds really substantially similar to you except it’s up to the state to check your record during the licensing process, the seller only has to check your license in a computer system. The state maintains the license and would revoke if it had a good reason to (get convicted with a felony, domestic violence charge, etc) and then come take weapons away. And everyone has to get a license and pay a few bucks for it, not just for concealed carry. Open carry is legal here too (for unrestricted licenses) but I have never seen it in 13 years living here. In fact my safety class advised against it, concealed or nothing

 

[MtnMan]

I need the permit to buy a gun, and I want to learn to shoot. I wrote in my reasoning for asking for unrestricted something like “I don’t plan to carry a gun and would prefer not to, but would like the option legally available to me in the unlikely event that COVID/other current events deteriorates to the point of compromising public safety”. No proof required when requesting a switch over to full unrestricted as far as I can gather.

The restriction is really just no carrying a loaded handgun in public. Still can transport it unloaded to the range, hunt, take it (loaded) on hikes in state parks.

Not wanting to jam you up, I actually support your rational, and that you recognize that COVID and 'other' national events make these uncertain times.

My state (NC) also requires a permit to purchase a handgun, issued through the Sheriff (long guns only need to go through FBI NICS checks, basically a phone call from the gun store). A PPP (Pistol Purchase Permit) take a couple of weeks, where the sheriff does background checks. Anyone that can legally own a gun, can 'open' carry a loaded gun on their person, or in a vehicle. A more extensive check is done to obtain a CHP (Concealed Handgun Permit) to allow concealed carry. It also allows unrestricted purchase of handguns or long guns.

Currently with COVID we are going out much less, but when we do, I carry. It has only changed what I carry. My preference is a Sig P238, due to size, ease of carry, etc. Now my go to carry is a Ruger SR9C, just a little more firepower and 18 rounds vs. 8.

Wife and daughter also have CHP's and carry. Oldest grandson will be taking the course next month to get his CHP, which he can't get until he is 21.

As for your comment about no one in your town carries... I'd bet you would be surprised. I've carried for many years, and I have been surprised exactly how many people I meet, once you get to know them are legally carrying a firearm, both men and women. They/we never make the news, it is just 'in case'. No paranoia, but even your rational for wanting a gun demonstrates you awareness of there are some bad people out there.

 

[MtnMan]

Once I get the license I could hoard to my heart’s content if I wanted. Sounds really substantially similar to you except it’s up to the state to check your record during the licensing process, the seller only has to check your license in a computer system. The state maintains the license and would revoke if it had a good reason to (get convicted with a felony, domestic violence charge, etc) and then come take weapons away. And everyone has to get a license and pay a few bucks for it, not just for concealed carry. Open carry is legal here too (for unrestricted licenses) but I have never seen it in 13 years living here. In fact my safety class advised against it, concealed or nothing

I agree 100% on the concealed or nothing. I have open carried out in the boonies, but that is a rare exception. The people that open carry to places like Wal-Wart are trying to compensate for something else that is lacking in their life.

Here a concealed carry permit greatly simplifies carrying in your vehicle, a reason some obtain their carry permit.

I have also had interactions with law enforcement while carrying (a minor traffic accident, and a DUI checkpoint). State law requires that I 'advise' the LEO I'm armed. One asked, "where is it", and the other said "mmmm k", neither even asked to see my CHP, only my drivers license. I do recognize some new cops might have not reacted thusly.

 

[ch33zw1z]

@repoman0 , signed up at the same place. Its in holliston, so about 25 miles more than worcestor for me, but their class availability is great. Going in the morning end of next week

 

[repoman0]

@repoman0 , signed up at the same place. Its in holliston, so about 25 miles more than worcestor for me, but their class availability is great. Going in the morning end of next week

How was the class? Did you get the Ben stiller looking guy as the instructor?

 

[ch33zw1z]

How was the class? Did you get the Ben stiller looking guy as the instructor?

Class was good. I got an older guy named Jim. He obviously had tons of XP, he said he started in the marines and was a highly ranked competitive shooter for some time. I learned quite a bit.

Sent in my packet to my local PD last week, waiting on them now.

 

[repoman0]

Class was good. I got an older guy named Jim. He obviously had tons of XP, he said he started in the marines and was a highly ranked competitive shooter for some time. I learned quite a bit.

Sent in my packet to my local PD last week, waiting on them now.

Nice .. sounds like I would have preferred him to my guy, who was obsessed with talking about gunfights. Still learned a lot in mine though as well.

I read a lot about local PDs being slow about it .. I called the licensing detective the day after my class and he had me in for fingerprinting the next morning. Still waiting on the license itself though, prob going to call the state hotline tomorrow.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Anyone familiar with this Turkish inexpensive Turkish products?

 

[gill77]

A buddy brought over an inline muzzle loader resulting in YouTube recommending this vid.

Thought some might find it of interest.

Edit: Bonus footage.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Class was good. I got an older guy named Jim. He obviously had tons of XP, he said he started in the marines and was a highly ranked competitive shooter for some time. I learned quite a bit.

Sent in my packet to my local PD last week, waiting on them now.

Still waiting on the licensing officer to respond. I left a single voicemail at the 1 month mark. Don't feel like being the squeaky wheel quite yet, they get 60 days to process it.

 

[repoman0]

Still waiting on the licensing officer to respond. I left a single voicemail at the 1 month mark. Don't feel like being the squeaky wheel quite yet, they get 60 days to process it.

I got mine a few weeks ago, basically six weeks from safety class to license in hand. My city PD was really on top of things. I haven’t bought anything yet because ammo seems impossible to get and I don’t really want to be in an enclosed range to practice due to covid. Maybe if I can find an outdoor one ..

 

[ch33zw1z]

I got mine a few weeks ago, basically six weeks from safety class to license in hand. My city PD was really on top of things. I haven’t bought anything yet because ammo seems impossible to get and I don’t really want to be in an enclosed range to practice due to covid. Maybe if I can find an outdoor one ..

My first purchases will be gear probably anyways, safe(s), etc...Looking at a Springfield 9mm hellcat tho as handgun

 

[Skel]

My first purchases will be gear probably anyways, safe(s), etc...Looking at a Springfield 9mm hellcat tho as handgun

Out of curiosity, why the Hellcat? While not the worst gun on planet in subcompact (that's prob the Nano..) it's not as nice as the P365. At least that's just my experience with them.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Out of curiosity, why the Hellcat? While not the worst gun on planet in subcompact (that's prob the Nano..) it's not as nice as the P365. At least that's just my experience with them.

Looked like good features. As a newb, I like the texture over the trigger to remind me where to keep my trigger finger. Also, size, MA (my state) has a 10 round limit (so even 7 or 8 is fine for it's intended purpose), plus I don't have big hands. It was recommended to me, but I'm open to suggestions. There's a ton of hardware out there, and I'm just a beginner. Really, when I get the LTC (no reason I shouldn't, at least the restricted to start), I'll start getting my hands on some gear down at the local shops and see what fits my hand the best.

 

[Svnla]

Out of curiosity, why the Hellcat? While not the worst gun on planet in subcompact (that's prob the Nano..) it's not as nice as the P365. At least that's just my experience with them.

Why the hate for Hellcat and Nano? I haven't heard much bad things about them two guns. Just curious.

In other news, ammo (especially .223/5.56) are still hard to find and more expensive if you can find any. Magpul mags are almost $13/each now, used to be $8/each.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Why the hate for Hellcat and Nano? I haven't heard much bad things about them two guns. Just curious.

In other news, ammo (especially .223/5.56) are still hard to find and more expensive if you can find any. Magpul mags are almost $13/each now, used to be $8/each.

I'm a fan of Springfield Armory because of their high end 1911s. I have a SA 1911 TRP which is a joy to shoot with probably the best trigger of any handgun I've ever fired. That said, I hadn't really considered any of their plastic guns. The Hellcat looks very much like a Glock and I'm a fan of Glocks so I'm not sure why I would choose the Hellcat over a Glock but I guess I'd have to shoot one first to make a proper comparison. Looks like a decent gun though.

 

[balloonshark]

Anyone familiar with this Turkish inexpensive Turkish products?

I bought a Canik TP9 DA in May. First gun I've owned in 20 years. I still haven't got to shoot it yet. Closest range is a 45 min drive. It seems like a decent gun for the price and feature and they are supposed to have pretty good triggers. I also bought 2 20 round mags and an OLIGHT PL-Mini 2 Valkyrie 600 Lumen weapon light for the rail. The canikfanatikforum seemed like a friendly place if you have questions or just want to look around.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Can you imagine waking up one morning and finding yourself in that time frame, a criminal on the run and those were the weapons you had access to?

 

[Skel]

Why the hate for Hellcat and Nano? I haven't heard much bad things about them two guns. Just curious.

In other news, ammo (especially .223/5.56) are still hard to find and more expensive if you can find any. Magpul mags are almost $13/each now, used to be $8/each.

I don't have hate for the hellcat per say, it's just not as good as the 365. As for the Nano.. well I carried that gun for years and I was never a fan of it. I'm not even sure where to start with all the issues of it.. the 20 mile long trigger pull, the need for a certain ammo weight (you can't use 115 grain without risking feeding issues) and I won't even get into the recoil that never acted the same way twice. It's also a single stack, which doesn't make sense to me for 9.. You do end up needing to use the extended mag just to have a grip that isn't made for kids, but even then you're only getting 2 more rounds. Either way.. look up the nano and you'll find reviews that complain about all it's issues. I haven't seen one really glowing review of it, though to be fair I haven't really searched that much for it. I bought it for it's size. I live in AZ so I can't conceal as easy as other state. For that the Nano was brilliant.. until other guns came into the game. Once I got the 365 I got why everyone loved it so much and replaced the Nano the same day. Now it'll just collect dust in my safe, and that's mostly because I don't feel right selling it to someone when it's such a crappy gun.

 

[K1052]

Bought my first pistol in over a decade this week. Should arrive at the dealer soonish.

Beretta 85BB.

The husband is eventually going to take shooting lessons once COVID is over with and will need something manageable for practice. Hopefully by then there will be ammo...

 

[ch33zw1z]

LTC came in the mail today, unrestricted. So now I can start looking at what to buy, safety gear first.

 

[gill77]

LTC came in the mail today, unrestricted. So now I can start looking at what to buy, safety gear first.

Better wait on the holster until you purchase your gun

If you are going to shoot a good bit, I consider these a must have. You can crank them up to actually hear better. Awareness of your surroundings is a plus when shooting.

The first link on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leigh...607611926&sprefix=shooting+ear,aps,210&sr=8-5

Good luck.

 

[olds]

Decided to buy myself a 357 revolver as a retirement present.
Anyone have opinions on Ruger Match Champion and S&W Performance Center?
4" barrel
Adjustable rear sight
No SA only
Prefer 6 shot