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[x-alki]

Oh. So you're going to spend way too much money on a really simple trigger job?

I'm sure that guy does fine work, but you should probably know that CZ's are EASY.

You'll get your gun back, your wallet will be like $200+ lighter, and you'll be AMAZED at how great the trigger is. But what would be more amazing was if you knew that 95% of the improvement was just coming from $20 worth of replacement springs.

Whatever......

 

[Kelvrick]

Whatever......

It is kind of true though. Assuming you're talking about the cgw basic upgrade package. It is basically their SPGK1 ($17 3 piece spring kit) and one of their hammer kits.

I'm not familiar with exactly what they do or which of their hammers they put into the basic kit. Their hammers are ~$70-$130 depending on which hammer sear combo you get, so the overall price isn't that bad. You'll basically be paying $30-50 for their installation.

Of course, this is assuming you go for the basic upgrade that even says no tuning or polishing. If you're going for one of their higher packages, then well, iono as much about that stuff. Some guys just don't like doing their own work, and I can understand that.

 

[phucheneh]

Yeah, I really wasn't trying to be too much of a dick about it; just pointing out that a CZ with a bit of break-in and a 13-15lb hammer spring can be SWEET. There's not a lot to polish or otherwise finesse.

The CGW spring kit uses a 13lb hammer spring, BTW, which is supposed to work fine with a lightened firing pin spring (and stock firing pin). That's where your substantial DA improvement (should be like 6-7lbs) comes from.

The 15lb, OTOH, I know to be just fine all on its own, and it's still massively better than what you get with the stock CZ spring. They're something like 18, at minimum.

 

[Svnla]

This is why there is no such thing as "shoot to wound" = http://bearingarms.com/professional...gpfbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=gpupdate

If you don’t want to be shot, you shouldn’t attack other human beings, especially those who are armed.

 

[highland145]

This is why there is no such thing as "shoot to wound" = http://bearingarms.com/professional...gpfbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=gpupdate

Should make that a sticky in P&N.

 

[irishScott]

Should make that a sticky on the internet.

Fixed.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

Just less than a handful of things to do and it'll be 100%

 

[Zargon]

nice progress

 

[Zargon]

I'm about 90% sure that a lot of my issues with CC comfort are belt related.

So I bit the bullet and ordered a belt from snake eater tactical last week.

Its going to be along 2 more weeks till I have it.

I just ordered their basic riggers belt in coyote, but if it works well I will probably order one of the higher end ones

 

[BlitzPuppet]

I'm about 90% sure that a lot of my issues with CC comfort are belt related.

So I bit the bullet and ordered a belt from snake eater tactical last week.

Its going to be along 2 more weeks till I have it.

I just ordered their basic riggers belt in coyote, but if it works well I will probably order one of the higher end ones

I'm pretty thin and tall so I'm not sure how well I'd be able to conceal carry. It's actually one of the reasons why I haven't gotten my license yet.

It's all done (one on the right):

 

[Zargon]

nice!

 

[clamum]

I'm pretty thin and tall so I'm not sure how well I'd be able to conceal carry. It's actually one of the reasons why I haven't gotten my license yet.

It's all done (one on the right):

Very nice work on the AK! I'd like to pick up a 74 some day.

As for carrying, I ain't tall (5' 9") but I'm thin. I have a cobra belt from Volund Gearworks and it works really well.

 

[Kelvrick]

I have a few different belts, but for every day ccw, I try to stay less tactical. I actually end up always going back to my 5.11 basic leather belt. I bought mine back when they were cheaper, like $20. It keeps it from being too obvious if my cover garment is lifted for any reason and someone sees the belt. The weave from a rigger/tactical/cobra belt just makes it too obvious for anyone with a keen eye.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/511-leather-casual-belt-15-plain-59501.html

It certainly isn't the best, but it is low key, and i've worn it in nicely and it is plenty stiff. I personally prefer leather for every day wear. I keep my tactical stuff for the range. The 5.11 is pretty squeeky though. I'd go elsewhere if you're going to pay $40+.

 

[Zargon]

I am in a college town where pretty much anything goes on belts from rope tied, tons of this style of belt, to leather, sequins, studded, ETC

People who know, will know. sure. But I wont be wearing BDU or 5.11 tac pants either or military style 'work boots'

Belts are a pretty big fashion item now, so Im not super worried about it

if I was in Chicago I would totally agree with you

 

[irishScott]

I'm pretty thin and tall so I'm not sure how well I'd be able to conceal carry. It's actually one of the reasons why I haven't gotten my license yet.

It's all done (one on the right):

Well worst case you could pocket carry any number of .380s, even some sub-compact 9mm and still be better armed than 99.99% of people walking around. Even an LCP is better than nothing.

 

[Svnla]

FBI is using 9mm as standard issued now? = http://p2t2solutions.com/fbi-finally-decides-on-standard-service-rounds-for-its-use/

 

[irishScott]

FBI is using 9mm as standard issued now? = http://p2t2solutions.com/fbi-finally-decides-on-standard-service-rounds-for-its-use/

Makes sense. Modern 9mm hollowpoints can easily push into .40 territory from a performance standpoint, and if your job possibly entails gunfights you're going to want the extra rounds.

I imagine they'll still allow their Agents to carry .40 or .45 Glocks if they prefer, 9mm just becomes standard issue.

 

[clamum]

There is little to no noticeable difference in the wound tracks between premium line law Auto enforcement projectiles from 9mm Luger through the .45 Auto

Ohhh boy. Wait until the .40 S&W and/or .45 ACP die-hards read that. "NA UHHH!!!!" Hahaha.

I have a CCW in 9mm and own a P226 in .40, so I have both, but even if I only had .45 ACP I can objectively accept findings like that without getting my panties in a bunch. I just can't wait to see the arguments and denial of reality by the fanboys of .40/.45.

 

[velillen]

Ohhh boy. Wait until the .40 S&W and/or .45 ACP die-hards read that. "NA UHHH!!!!" Hahaha.

I carry a .45 in the summer and my full size 226 (9mm) in the winter. I could really care less about "omg 45 is better for x" or "9+p is better" or whatever. Shot placement and being smart is the better defense over caliber. The guy who has put thousands of rounds through his pocket 380 is going to be more effective then the homeowner who puts 100 rounds a year through his gun.

Ive always told friends and new people to shooting, use what you are the most comfortable with and not whatever the latest gun mags or forums tell you to use.

Hell for me for the longest time i was most comfortable with my 357mag revolver so i used that till i felt confident with both my XDs and 226.

 

[irishScott]

I carry a .45 in the summer and my full size 226 (9mm) in the winter. I could really care less about "omg 45 is better for x" or "9+p is better" or whatever. Shot placement and being smart is the better defense over caliber. The guy who has put thousands of rounds through his pocket 380 is going to be more effective then the homeowner who puts 100 rounds a year through his gun.

Ive always told friends and new people to shooting, use what you are the most comfortable with and not whatever the latest gun mags or forums tell you to use.

Hell for me for the longest time i was most comfortable with my 357mag revolver so i used that till i felt confident with both my XDs and 226.

Pretty much. The .380 in particular gets a lot of shit but I still don't see anyone volunteering to get shot with it to prove how "less lethal" it is Granted more energy going into the bad guy is always better and you have to balance that with gun size/recoil/capacity, but that's about it. All handguns are under-powered compromises by definition.

 

[clamum]

I carry a .45 in the summer and my full size 226 (9mm) in the winter. I could really care less about "omg 45 is better for x" or "9+p is better" or whatever. Shot placement and being smart is the better defense over caliber. The guy who has put thousands of rounds through his pocket 380 is going to be more effective then the homeowner who puts 100 rounds a year through his gun.

Ive always told friends and new people to shooting, use what you are the most comfortable with and not whatever the latest gun mags or forums tell you to use.

Hell for me for the longest time i was most comfortable with my 357mag revolver so i used that till i felt confident with both my XDs and 226.

:thumbsup:

 

[Zargon]

Pretty much. The .380 in particular gets a lot of shit but I still don't see anyone volunteering to get shot with it to prove how "less lethal" it is Granted more energy going into the bad guy is always better and you have to balance that with gun size/recoil/capacity, but that's about it. All handguns are under-powered compromises by definition.

word.

cant wait for open carry in IL!!!

(clearly just kidding around)

 

[irishScott]

Seems to be a good time to repost Colion Noire's "People who carry X" series. Great stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHkqOWzDAZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuiePszwaho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po4nZTO3ES4

 

[gorcorps]

Yeah, I really wasn't trying to be too much of a dick about it; just pointing out that a CZ with a bit of break-in and a 13-15lb hammer spring can be SWEET. There's not a lot to polish or otherwise finesse.

The CGW spring kit uses a 13lb hammer spring, BTW, which is supposed to work fine with a lightened firing pin spring (and stock firing pin). That's where your substantial DA improvement (should be like 6-7lbs) comes from.

The 15lb, OTOH, I know to be just fine all on its own, and it's still massively better than what you get with the stock CZ spring. They're something like 18, at minimum.

Haven't read this thread in a while, but saw this and thought I'd share. Did a lot of work to my sp01 shadow recently and it's an incredible shooter. I have a 13lb hammer spring in w/ the extended firing pin. It's still picky about primers now, so you have to use ammo with softer primers or load your own, but the trigger is very nice. Also put the competition hammer on it, as well as greatly reduced the takeup length on the SA pull. I installed it all myself without ever having disassembled it before, and I'm glad I did. Learned a lot about how it all works, and what spares I should probably have on hand for future wear.

 

[Svnla]

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/10-lessons-learned-worst-gun-ever-owned/