Buy a Glock 32C in .357sig, and a barrel from the 23C in .40 = 2 guns in one.
When the 40 came out, I was one of those people that jumped on the bandwagon and bought one. The pistol I bought was a Ruger P91 DC (DeCocker). To be perfectly honest, from the very first time I shot the 40 I did not like it. And I do not consider myself a "first timer". My buddies and I used to go to the range and shoot over 1,000 9mm, several hundred 45acp, and lots of 357 magnum in a single day.
When my wife and I divorced she kept the Ruger P91. That was 10 years ago and I have never bothered to replace it.
In the past 10 years I have shot several different types of pistols chambered in 40, and I have yet to find one I like.
The recoil of the 40 is too harsh for my taste. When I fire off a round, I find myself dreading the recoil and the "snap". 9mm and 45acp fit my taste just fine.
+1 on that
The 9mm and 45acp have been battle proven for what,,, 75 years before the 40 was developed? Both have served in 2 world wars and conflicts all over the world. Both have been shown to be very effective.
It appears to me that Smith & Wesson developed the 40 to get their name into the ammunition market.
S&W has other ammunition with their name on it...
.32 S&W
.38 S&W
500 S&W
I own both a Walther P22 and PPS (.32 caliber) and they both have cause me no problems. I have carried the .22 as my concealed weapon before, and it is easily concealable with the right holster and the right clothes. While people say it won't stop someone this guy seems to think otherwise. My next one will probably be an XD in .40 or 9mm because I plan on getting a Beretta CX4 Storm in one of those categories to round out my collection.
I wouldn't trust a Taurus semi-auto to protect myself.
I've broken 2 of them in stores just handling them. I find that people that recommend a Taurus semiauto do so purely for a cost reason.
If cost is a concern, go with a Ruger P series or find a used Glock.
I put a 1000 rounds or so through my PT111 Millenium Pro. It wont shoot hyrdashock or feed some of the other extremely ramped JHP's, but it feed everything else just fine. I would guess a little work on the feed ramp would fix that though.
The first and second gen Taurus Millenniums had issues, which is why they quickly disappeared. The new models are rock solid. I've owned mine for about 6 or 7 years now, put thousands of rounds through it, and still absolutely solid.
I recommend it because out of the dozens of weapons I've handled, fired, and carried (for concealed) nothing even comes close to matching it. However I'm fairly picky about my sidearms so *shrug*.
Glocks have NOTHING in common with a Taurus Millennium, so it's ridiculous to suggest that it's an equivalent in anything but price (used). The Ruger is a bit closer in characteristics, though I'm still not a big fan of the feel.
When you drive a car it pretty common to have an air bag and wear your seat belt. Because studies show that 2 layers of security are better then 1. Same thing goes with a glock. There is no second layer of security.
Man if Taurus set the bar for your choice in handguns, I'd hate to see what other guns you carried.
I have a Taurus snub nose and it's is ok. My Uncle has a Beretta 92 clone and it shoots ok, but something about it just doesn't feel right. I've shot it several times and never had a problem, but it just doesn't feel like there is any quality.
I've got a friend that owns one of the largest gun shops in the DFW area and they stopped carrying Taurus because to many of them where breaking and the people were coming to the shop to get some resolution because Taurus wouldn't pay to have the firearm shipped back, even though it doesn't cost Taurus much at all, where as a non FFL is going to pay $50+ to send it back.
I've locked up a Taurus 1911 just by manipulating the safety lever. No one in the store could fix it. The other was a Beretta 96 clone that the safety lever snapped and fell out of the frame.
One of my friends did the same thing to one of the Taurus 1911's and broke the safety and it fell out of the gun.
Taurus uses a LOT of cheap MIM parts and those are typically the failure point.
I've learned over the years that higher end handguns are worth the extra money.
How much is your life worth?
I own both a Walther P22 and PPS (.32 caliber) and they both have cause me no problems. I have carried the .22 as my concealed weapon before, and it is easily concealable with the right holster and the right clothes. While people say it won't stop someone this guy seems to think otherwise. My next one will probably be an XD in .40 or 9mm because I plan on getting a Beretta CX4 Storm in one of those categories to round out my collection.
How small? It's possible to carry a full frame 1911, but not the most comfortable unless you're a bigger guy (then it's likely not too bad).
FWIW, I go between a Glock 36 and a Ruger LCP. Glock 19/26 will have cheaper ammo (9mm). I have yet to shoot one, but I have also heard really good things about the Springfield XD series.
My next gun will probably be a suppressed Walther P22, but that's just because it's awesome and cheap to shoot.
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Glocks have NOTHING in common with a Taurus Millennium, so it's ridiculous to suggest that it's an equivalent in anything but price (used). The Ruger is a bit closer in characteristics, though I'm still not a big fan of the feel.
this is true.
however, if you havent, I highly suggest checking out the 4th gen's
they are definately a step ahead. and I *like* my glock. but I would love a 4th gen
and a beretta 92, and a sig p226 or 9
and some others
HK P7's are nice too
I'm not exactly......prejudiced against most guns, is kinda what I am trying to point out
For me it's a feel thing...In a concealed weapon I don't like square grips, can't handle larger grips, hate floating pinky, dislike trigger safeties, etc. I have no issue with full size Glocks for duty carry, just not right for some people for off-duty use.
For me it's a feel thing...In a concealed weapon I don't like square grips, can't handle larger grips, hate floating pinky, dislike trigger safeties, etc. I have no issue with full size Glocks for duty carry, just not right for some people for off-duty use.
After trying to get to like my G19 and G23's I gave up on Glocks. If you don't like the trigger bar safety that glock and XD's use, try a Smith and Wesson M&P or the new SD line.
There are a lot of options out there for a quality handgun for right around $500
Hell for $400 go to Academy sports and pick up a Sig Pro 2022 in 9mm. For $50 more I think it is, you can get the version with night sites. These are very accurate and reliable guns.
DO NOT GET A WALTHER P22. I had one and it is a piece of SHIT. I couldn't hit anything with it. I was lucky to get 10 rounds in a silhouette target at 10-15 feet. My Browning Buckmark 22 I can put 10 rounds within 2-inches at the same distance.