yagt: *sigh* what have I done this time....

Juice Box

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Nov 7, 2003
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As stated, I never thought I'd be in a position where I need advice this badly, but neither me, nor any of my friends can seem to tackle this issue...

First a bit of background:
So, just shy of two weeks ago, I met this girl in one of my classes. To give you an idea, I had been in this class all semester, not knowing anybody...but after seeing just how boring it really is, I decided I needed to at least meet someone that I could talk with in class and make it a little more bearable So, I went ahead and met a few people, neither of whom seemed to be all that interesting...or willing to talk for that matter. Few days went by, and then I noticed someone in my class that I could only describe as "down to earth"-looking...if that makes any sense?

Anyways, I am super shy, and was never able to muster up the courage to start a conversation in/after class, so I ended up shooting her an email about class or whatever, told her to IM me if she wants, that kinda thing (quite lame indeed, I hope one day I'm not such a pu$$y). Anyways, she IMs me back, and we started talking.

Right away it seemed to go quite well. We talked about anything and everything, and our personalities, as I could tell, seemed to click very well. So, the next day we have class, we sit together, and then talk afterwards. My god, talking in person was even better...our personalties play off each other's so well, I was truly in shock, I didn't think this kind of person existed Also, we had talked a lot about music (my main interest) the night before, and I told her that I'd burn her a DVD of music she had to listen to, which she was really excited about. I gave it to her after class, and she seemed to really appreciate it. (she then mentioned loving many of the bands i introduced her to via that DVD)

That night we ended up hanging out at her place, watching a movie and playing some Wii (yeah....). I had a good time and made sure to tell her that. Fast forward to that weekend, we went out for coffee and then she came over to meet my friends and what not. I ended up having her come over on the one day this whole semester there was actually "partying" going on....may have been a bad idea, not quite sure. Lots of partying going on by my friends, but she said she had a good time regardless. I decided to walk her home, just because it was a long walk, and I wouldn't be able to deal with myself if I ever let someone walk home alone and something happened to them.

Fast forward to now......talk about on and off....I cannot, for the life of me, figure this one out. There are some days where we have super long conversations about stuff like relationships (past ones, what we are after, etc.) and then some days where I hardly get a word out of her. On top of that, every offer to do something with her outside of class seems to either be shot down or ignored. Many people have told me that perhaps I am moving too fast for her, which I suppose could be the case. The only thing that makes me wonder is why she was so willing to do things together when we first met rather than now....I cannot think of what might have "gone wrong" that would make her change her mind like that.

And you may be saying that I am asking too much from her....I dunno, I suppose that could be true. All the offers I've made recently involve doing things with other people, because I wanted to make it clear that I am not just after one thing (what most guys are after )....I really just like the time we do spend together.

So yeah, I suppose that is where things stand right now. I am really, really unsure why things have seemed to head south so damn quickly...I really don't think that I've done anything *wrong*. I think that the friendship I offer to people that don't know me may be a bit much perhaps....I try to go all out for my best friends, as I feel it is important to give to people you care about.

I will be honest and say that I truly had no intentions of something like this happening when I first started talking to her...I was really just looking for someone to chat with in class. It just so happened that our personalities complimented each other well...at least, I thought they did =/

A lot of people are telling me to just shut up and let her make the next move...which is probably the best advice I've heard...I'm just really bad at not talking, if that makes any sense. I just get the feeling that if I did "push too hard" or whatever, that I don't think that'll ever happen. I'm not sure if I've gotten to the point where I need to try and explain my way better to her, so she doesn't think that I am just after something serious with her or something. This has really been confusing the hell out of me the past few days, and I wish it didn't have to be so complicated.

Alright ATOT women experts.....do your worst! (I appreciate anyone that actually reads that book of a post I just wrote....like I said, once I start talking, it's hard to shut me up )
 

child of wonder

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Maybe she realizes you want a relationship and she likes you only as a friend.

Can't remember what comedian said this but women keep around guy friends as a last resort. It's like a dick in a case that says "break glass in case of emergency."
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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You're in the friend zone. You probably had a chance to be more than friends earlier in your relationship with her, but IMHO that chance has passed. You'd be lucky if you got another chance. It may be worth trying to make a move now, but I'd say you waited too long.

For your sake, I hope I'm wrong, but that's how it seems to me.
 

Juice Box

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Originally posted by: leftyman
my god..cliffs?

hahah, i figured someone would ask....I'm off to class for an hour or so, perhaps I'll type some for you lazy people afterwards
 
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Okay...ugh...I actually read all of that. First off, if I read right, you've only known her for two weeks? Just be patient man. that seems hard for you, but realize if you're not you stand ZERO chance of "getting her back".

As for her behavior....something happened. It sounds like around the time of the party. Either she saw or heard something she didn't like, and it sounds as if she doesn't feel like she owes you an explanation on that one. Why should she anyway? She just met you really, she probably feels it might be improper to ask about something "big" so early on.

If I'm right, then the best thing you can do is leave it alone, maybe let her know you're available to talk if she wants (do that ONCE and drop it), then wait for her to make a move. Odds are she might not, and you gotta deal with that man.....welcome to the wonderful world of women!
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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It happens more often than you think. Women overthink things and are fickle. Sorry buddy, but give her a little time and space and just talk to her casually when you get the chance. If that is too hard to do, back off. She will talk to you if and when she want to. My suggestion is to invite her to something with your friends which is really casual.

I am also betting you that you have real affections for this girl because you are worried about it and the friendship/relationship, which is not a bad thing (it has happened to me more than once). Sometimes though, you just have to take a step back for a second.

Like I said, my suggestion is to invite her to something really casual which isn't just the two of you, but a group of friends. That way she knows it is cool between you, even if you slow down talking to her. It is really her decision in the end, and if she decides that she doesn't want to talk, if you respect her, you will allow it to happen (even if it hurts). Sorry buddy, good luck to you.

**EDIT**
Also, I concur about the friend zone thing. But she may feel weird becauase she knows you want more. Just give it time, if you really want to be her friend.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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stop ho chasin


BTW: a rule of thumb here...you are fighting an uphill battle if you are pursuing a relationship before you've gotten physical with the girl. Hook up first, persue relationship second. Women are usually more comfortable with this format than with the inverse.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: leftyman
my god..cliffs?

shy OP meets homely looking girl
e-courting ensues
in person courting follows
girl put off by OP moving to fast or strange bodily odor
friend zone insertion imminent
OP confused




 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Not to use a bad analogy, but you blew your wad too quick. If you would have played it out over a longer period of time, it might have went the way you wanted. Unfortunately you may have shown too much interest and kinda relegated yourself to the aforementioned "friend zone".

It's kinda like catching a chocobo in FF7. At first you get all excited and throw them expensive greens. After a while you realize that it's better to just take it easy and throw them the cheap ass 100-gil greens. If you get too excited and "attack", they run away.

So you were good to show some interest and I applaud you for that. These women though... fickle creatures my friend, as you know! Best of luck with the next one.

edit: oh yeah and props for initiating contact.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Like I said, my suggestion is to invite her to something really casual which isn't just the two of you, but a group of friends.

*points at this*

Originally posted by: Juice Box
All the offers I've made recently involve doing things with other people, because I wanted to make it clear that I am not just after one thing (what most guys are after )....I really just like the time we do spend together.

 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Juice Box
Originally posted by: leftyman
my god..cliffs?

hahah, i figured someone would ask....I'm off to class for an hour or so, perhaps I'll type some for you lazy people afterwards


In the time you responded to this you could have provided about 4-5 short lines of cliff's.
 

meltdown75

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cliffs whores:

it's really not that long. in the time you spent asking for cliffs, you could have read half the damn post.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
cliffs whores:

it's really not that long. in the time you spent asking for cliffs, you could have read half the damn post.

You must either type really slow or read really fast.

ZOMG, it's Johnny 5! :Q
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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*points at this*

Originally posted by: Juice Box
All the offers I've made recently involve doing things with other people, because I wanted to make it clear that I am not just after one thing (what most guys are after )....I really just like the time we do spend together.

[/quote]

laugh. So you think by hiding your sexuality she will become more attracted to you? Listen, girls know all to well what is really going on when you are flirting with them. There is no need to sugar coat it. In fact many girls will find it awkward or creepy if a guy is pretending to not be interested in sex....it is abnormal and they will see right through it.

 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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She doesn't want to waste her time with a guy she's not interested in romantically. So she'll give you attention and talk when she's not otherwise occupied, but the rest of the time when she's got something else to do - you go on the backburner. Basically you exist to amuse her when she's bored.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: DaShen
Like I said, my suggestion is to invite her to something really casual which isn't just the two of you, but a group of friends.

*points at this*

Originally posted by: Juice Box
All the offers I've made recently involve doing things with other people, because I wanted to make it clear that I am not just after one thing (what most guys are after )....I really just like the time we do spend together.

DaShen and reading comprehension don't seem to get on very well atm.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
laugh. So you think by hiding your sexuality she will become more attracted to you? Listen, girls know all to well what is really going on when you are flirting with them. There is no need to sugar coat it. In fact many girls will find it awkward or creepy if a guy is pretending to not be interested in sex....it is abnormal and they will see right through it.

Believe it or not, not everyone cares about putting the winky in the wahoo as much as you :roll:. If we all succumbed to primordial desires, we'd be nothing more than cavemen... although the thought of clubbing a woman like a baby seal for your own whims would make courting much easier... :evil:!
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: K1052
shy OP meets homely looking girl
e-courting ensues
in person courting follows
girl put off by OP moving to fast or strange bodily odor
friend zone insertion imminent
OP confused

ROFL

 
Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
stop ho chasin


BTW: a rule of thumb here...you are fighting an uphill battle if you are pursuing a relationship before you've gotten physical with the girl. Hook up first, persue relationship second. Women are usually more comfortable with this format than with the inverse.



I've always found that when I do them like that (most of the time) they ALWAYS say later "I can't believe we slept together so soon. I swear I'm not that kind of girl!"......yeeeeah, riiiight
 
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