YAGT: Social Proof

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: skywalker66

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Getting women isn't an objective, it's a side track. Most girls that like(d) me were complete flukes or accidents.

again, i dont like this philosophy, because this means that I would have no control over my life or when I get the things that I want, or even if I get them.

I dont think I am going to meet a women, unless I go out and find her. This accident $hit aint true. If I rely on meeting my girl by chance, I will probably never meet her.

It doesnt matter if you like it. The truth doesnt care whether or not you agree with it.

The only people that go out and get women like that are players, of which you are not.

I dont think youre going to meet a woman period until you get your head out of your ass. You think you know, but you HAVE NO IDEA.

When people talk about meeting a girl by accident, they arent talking about storybook we bumped into each other on the street and lived happily ever after. Its more like there was this cute girl in my class and we got to talking....or one of my friends introduced me to this girl and....etc etc

No one is telling you to just wait until a girl falls into your lap, because she's not going to. They are telling you to bide your time and wait for the proper opporunity to pursue. The law of averages is on your side. If youre really that desperate, lower your standards.

Any attempt to "try to look less desperate" will only make you look more so, guaranteed.

You appear to be socially inept. Find a socially inept girl.

 

[prvteye2003]

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

lol.....I seriously doubt he's looking for a christian girl.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: melly

Props to you, HC, for taking the time to try and explain it to Skywalker...patience is a virtue. I don't understand why he isn't heeding advice of females. This is his #1223355679211 post on how to get a girl and he still won't hear what we have to say...personally I don't think it has anything to do with religion or waiting for the tide to roll in (whatever), and lots of inexperienced people also giving their 0.02. I think you hit the nail on the head when you suggested he develop other parts of his life (or lack, thereof).[/quote]

I love the "I've received similar advice from a lot of Christian girls, and it seems like they are all brainwashed into giving me this message" part. Hmm, they couldn't possibly be saying it (nearly ALL of them, mind you) because they think it's true and it's what their experience tells them?

 

[melly]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: melly

Props to you, HC, for taking the time to try and explain it to Skywalker...patience is a virtue. I don't understand why he isn't heeding advice of females. This is his #1223355679211 post on how to get a girl and he still won't hear what we have to say...personally I don't think it has anything to do with religion or waiting for the tide to roll in (whatever), and lots of inexperienced people also giving their 0.02. I think you hit the nail on the head when you suggested he develop other parts of his life (or lack, thereof).

I love the "I've received similar advice from a lot of Christian girls, and it seems like they are all brainwashed into giving me this message" part. Hmm, they couldn't possibly be saying it (nearly ALL of them, mind you) because they think it's true and it's what their experience tells them?[/quote]

Things that make me, too, go HMMMMMMMMMMM

 

[vshah]

skywalker, seriously, listen to hotchic.

lemme tell you a little story about myself a year ago. i was 17, a virgin, had never had a girlfriend. i did have a strong, close group of buddies, but i think thats totally irrelevant.

i was pres. of a club in high school that fed homeless people in wash. DC over the weekend. through this, i met a female friend of a friend and started talking to her, purely as a friend. within a week of meeting her, i realized i had feelings greater than friendship for her, and from there, it basically took off. we're not dating anymore, the relationship lasted 3 months.

what i'm trying to say is that even if you don't actively try to find a girl, if you engross yourself in other things, it'll just make it that much easier to find someone you're compatible with. in my mind, compatibility and attraction are the two keys to a relationship.

i don't know how old you are, but you're in college, so know that you have a while to go, and you will by no means die a virgin.

anyway, that concludes my rambling....

-Vivan

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: vshah
skywalker, seriously, listen to hotchic.

lemme tell you a little story about myself a year ago. i was 17, a virgin, had never had a girlfriend. i did have a strong, close group of buddies, but i think thats totally irrelevant.

i was pres. of a club in high school that fed homeless people in wash. DC over the weekend. through this, i met a female friend of a friend and started talking to her, purely as a friend. within a week of meeting her, i realized i had feelings greater than friendship for her, and from there, it basically took off. we're not dating anymore, the relationship lasted 3 months.

what i'm trying to say is that even if you don't actively try to find a girl, if you engross yourself in other things, it'll just make it that much easier to find someone you're compatible with. in my mind, compatibility and attraction are the two keys to a relationship.

i don't know how old you are, but you're in college, so know that you have a while to go, and you will by no means die a virgin.

anyway, that concludes my rambling....

-Vivan

Yep. Best way to meet girls you like is to do things you like, and run into girls who are there doing the same stuff you like doing!

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Yep. Best way to meet girls you like is to do things you like, and run into girls who are there doing the same stuff you like doing!

exactly. before i met this girl, the thought of me having a girlfriend seemed ridiculous to me. it wasn't something that i avoided or aspired to. but when this girl came along, i felt a desire to be closer to her, and things happily worked out.

skywalker, nothing anyone says here will garauntee you a girlfriend. and i realize the confidence you need to ask a girl out the first time...all the guys here have been there and done that. but it gets easier every time after that. you'll face dissapointment and rejection at some point in your life for sure, why not be prepared for it? (sorry, this para is sort of a downer )

anyway, follow OT's advice, and chances are you'll find someone not so far in the future.

-Vivan

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

It's women like you that make men like me need porn.

I can honestly say that I am one of the rare subspecies of man that has priorities higher than sex. Here is my priority list:

1) Obtain reasonable financial security (riches) or die trying. (watch me even rip that off of "fity cent" i dont give a sh!t... thats how big of an ego I have.
2) Get my ego under control.... but not before 3
3) Getting a powerboat before the year is over... (dont correct my list- its intentional)
4) Inevetably establish and maintain a well rounded relationship with some girl currently unknown to me.
5) Find out why sex isnt higher on my list and why the thought of sex in the back does not appeal to me
6) Have sex in the back with a snotty christian girl like you.... the pleasure to me coming not from the act, but from the satisfaction that you'll NEVER LEAVE THE CONFESSIONAL YOU FREAKING ZEALOT! :beer: :beer:
7) Sex

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

It's women like you that make men like me need porn.

I can honestly say that I am one of the rare subspecies of man that has priorities higher than sex. Here is my priority list:

1) Obtain reasonable financial security (riches) or die trying. (watch me even rip that off of "fity cent" i dont give a sh!t... thats how big of an ego I have.
2) Get my ego under control.... but not before 3
3) Getting a powerboat before the year is over... (dont correct my list- its intentional)
4) Inevetably establish and maintain a well rounded relationship with some girl currently unknown to me.
5) Find out why sex isnt higher on my list and why the thought of sex in the back does not appeal to me
6) Have sex in the back with a snotty christian girl like you.... the pleasure to me coming not from the act, but from the satisfaction that you'll NEVER LEAVE THE CONFESSIONAL YOU FREAKING ZEALOT! :beer: :beer:
7) Sex

i hope you're kidding...

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

It's women like you that make men like me need porn.

I can honestly say that I am one of the rare subspecies of man that has priorities higher than sex. Here is my priority list:

1) Obtain reasonable financial security (riches) or die trying. (watch me even rip that off of "fity cent" i dont give a sh!t... thats how big of an ego I have.
2) Get my ego under control.... but not before 3
3) Getting a powerboat before the year is over... (dont correct my list- its intentional)
4) Inevetably establish and maintain a well rounded relationship with some girl currently unknown to me.
5) Find out why sex isnt higher on my list and why the thought of sex in the back does not appeal to me
6) Have sex in the back with a snotty christian girl like you.... the pleasure to me coming not from the act, but from the satisfaction that you'll NEVER LEAVE THE CONFESSIONAL YOU FREAKING ZEALOT! :beer: :beer:
7) Sex

Considering that your priority list pretty well fits in with what I suggested to the OP (having some higher priorities than GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS), I'm a bit befuddled at the hostility. Have fun though. And I only tossed in the Christian side of my post because the OP mentioned that he was looking for a Christian girl, though I am Christian.

Anyhow, g'eve.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

It's women like you that make men like me need porn.

I can honestly say that I am one of the rare subspecies of man that has priorities higher than sex. Here is my priority list:

1) Obtain reasonable financial security (riches) or die trying. (watch me even rip that off of "fity cent" i dont give a sh!t... thats how big of an ego I have.
2) Get my ego under control.... but not before 3
3) Getting a powerboat before the year is over... (dont correct my list- its intentional)
4) Inevetably establish and maintain a well rounded relationship with some girl currently unknown to me.
5) Find out why sex isnt higher on my list and why the thought of sex in the back does not appeal to me
6) Have sex in the back with a snotty christian girl like you.... the pleasure to me coming not from the act, but from the satisfaction that you'll NEVER LEAVE THE CONFESSIONAL YOU FREAKING ZEALOT! :beer: :beer:
7) Sex

Considering that your priority list pretty well fits in with what I suggested to the OP (having some higher priorities than GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS), I'm a bit befuddled at the hostility. Have fun though. And I only tossed in the Christian side of my post because the OP mentioned that he was looking for a Christian girl, though I am Christian.

Anyhow, g'eve.

(45 year old man in a college kid's body)/M/Philadelphia area

wanna give it a shot? :beer: :beer:

<<<< have money (hard worker..... full time plus full college schedule) will travel

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

(45 year old man in a college kid's body)/M/Philadelphia area

wanna give it a shot? :beer: :beer:

<<<< have money will travel

45 and haven't attained objective 1 (Financial security) yet? Hang on... *turns off Christianity and turns materialistic bitch mode on* Hell no!




edit: okay, I read that wrong. Sorry

 

[acemcmac]

ummm 45 in a college kid's body

RTFP

 

[acemcmac]

lol awesome....

forget the girls.... this was my sunrise adventure this morning

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acemcmac/copupload/index.htm

^^ I live for crap like that

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
ummm 45 in a college kid's body

RTFP

I read too fast and took the meaning as "45 WITH a college kid's body", and caught my mistake before you posted. Oooookay, bedtime for me.

 

[Red Dawn]

You want to meet some Christian girls? Hang out at a Nunnery!

 

[melly]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You want to meet some Christian girls? Hang out at a Nunnery!

bwahahaha

 

[her209]

Girls are like money. You have to already have some in order to get more.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: HotChic
Okay, advice from a Christian female here:

STOP PURSUING GIRLS! Seriously. Because you are so focused on "girls" as an objective, and not one girl because you're attracted to her, you're pretty much worthless as a bf. You seem like a loser because you don't have any other apparent object in life.

Get a life, some hobbies, some interests, some ministries, learn to HONESTLY focus on those things as your top priority, focus on God as your top priority, and you're going to be much more interesting to Christian girls. Make yourself somebody that people of all types like the hang out with and make friends with some females without wondering about dating them (I can tell that you're the type girls avoid because they know showing any friendship at all will lead to an uncomfortable period of you being interested in them regardless of their romantic interest level.)

Take a mental break from females, thinking about sex, thinking about relationships, and learn that there's a little more to life than that.

:heart: Darn straight!

Ditto.

Side note go work out. Once you start to get pretty buff you will attract some girls one way or another. "Should" help with your confidence levels BUT for some being buff is not going to do anything for their confidence anyway. Pick a hobby and work at that. You will most likely meet some girls through that.

But yeah follow HotChic sound advice.

And

And unfortunately a Christian female probably wouldnt be too impressed by the fact that my close friends are non-christian.

wtf?! DUDE if they were any decent Chrisitian female they don't care if others are non-christians man. That is BS if I ever heard one.

Koing

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: skywalker66

Originally posted by: Mo0o
If you're such a hardcore Christian, why dont you go to church. I thought that's where Christian kids meet each other and be holy together

I do go, when I wake up on Sunday mornings.

Its not as good of a meeting grounds as you would think. Especially big churches. Its harder to get to know girls in them.

1 thing: Youth Groups

My girlfriend constantly meets guys there, and it kinda bugs me.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: skywalker66

Originally posted by: Mo0o
If you're such a hardcore Christian, why dont you go to church. I thought that's where Christian kids meet each other and be holy together

I do go, when I wake up on Sunday mornings.

Its not as good of a meeting grounds as you would think. Especially big churches. Its harder to get to know girls in them.

1 thing: Youth Groups

My girlfriend constantly meets guys there, and it kinda bugs me.

Yeah, I have Christian friends who knows crap loads of kids from youth groups.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: skywalker66

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Getting women isn't an objective, it's a side track. Most girls that like(d) me were complete flukes or accidents.

again, i dont like this philosophy, because this means that I would have no control over my life or when I get the things that I want, or even if I get them.

I dont think I am going to meet a women, unless I go out and find her. This accident $hit aint true. If I rely on meeting my girl by chance, I will probably never meet her.

It doesnt matter if you like it. The truth doesnt care whether or not you agree with it.

The only people that go out and get women like that are players, of which you are not.

I dont think youre going to meet a woman period until you get your head out of your ass. You think you know, but you HAVE NO IDEA.

When people talk about meeting a girl by accident, they arent talking about storybook we bumped into each other on the street and lived happily ever after. Its more like there was this cute girl in my class and we got to talking....or one of my friends introduced me to this girl and....etc etc

No one is telling you to just wait until a girl falls into your lap, because she's not going to. They are telling you to bide your time and wait for the proper opporunity to pursue. The law of averages is on your side. If youre really that desperate, lower your standards.

Any attempt to "try to look less desperate" will only make you look more so, guaranteed.

You appear to be socially inept. Find a socially inept girl.

Sir, either follow your religon or not. Christianity believes that god chooses a path for you to follow, and therefore, you actually don't have any control over your life.

Think about it this way, you have no control over what another person (in this case, women,) think about you.

I've found this a huge flaw about religious people, more specifically, catholics and christians. You have your heads buried so far up your ass you can't even catch a glimmer of reality, not to mention the full picture.

You have no idea how women work, no guy does. So don't think there is a magic formula that you can simply follow and it will all work out.

There is no magic key.

Edit:

So, one night you call up your friend, and by chance he happens to have a female friend with him/her. You like this chick and you hook up. How is that not a fluke/chance?

Everything is by chance buddy

 

[Rainsford]

You know, for a YAGT...there seems to be an overusage of the word "Christian". Just thought I'd comment.

On a more helpful note (probably not), you are overthinking this. Really, it's not a military operation or a real time strategy game. Overthinking WILL make things worse, not better. I'm speaking from experience here.

 

[Pepsei]

Yep. Best way to meet girls you like is to do things you like, and run into girls who are there doing the same stuff you like doing!

Yep, so you need to stop posting and go to church today.

but like others had said, it doesn't look like you want a Christian girl. What you need to do is learn some British accent and go to a bar in Wisconsin.

 

[coolVariable]

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