YAGT: Social "S.N.A.F.U" with my Korean girlfriend ?

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Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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She had no right to be angry at you. If the cultural thing was *that* important, she should have warned you in advance so you knew what to expect. She is treating you like sh*t because she chooses to.
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
totally ignoring him and completely talking in Korean when he probably doesn't understand one word is the right thing? sure she showed respect to the elders and the family that ran the store, but she also has at least a little obligation to him dont ya think? maybe she didn't have to introduce him as her b/f, but she could at least say, this is my friend, Sal Weinerberger [or whatever].

Also, i think its a bit rude to talk entirely in Korean. Fair enough, maybe the family didn't speak English well, but she could have at least talked to him directly even if just for a minute. from what he says it looks like she totally dis'd him and didn't even acknowledge him.

No offence, but it could very well be culture driven and she was doing the appropriate thing
This isn't the movies. There is no culture out there that allows a person to be totally discounted and unacknowledged as living. It was simply ignorant.

How do you know? My gf is 100% Japanese (living there now) and there's a sh!t load of culture in EVERYTHING. You have no idea
 

Dacalo

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Mar 31, 2000
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I am a Korean, but your GF is a bitch.

I have numerous Korean friends, guys and gals, but none of them are materialistic and rude to other nationalities. Perhaps it's because I only associate to people who are like that.

I have white friends, Japanese and Chinese friends, and well as black friends, and we are comfortable with each other's presence.
 

magomago

Lifer
Sep 28, 2002
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Hrmm....I wouldn't know what to say- but maybe people are misinterpreting at the same time? How long have you guys been together? Maybe she isn't sure what to do or something.

If I'm with friends and speaking arabic I ALWAYS make sure to introduce anyone, but then again atleast as far as I know there isn't a arrogance thing with any of my parents/older people I know.

My guess is she is confused...haha I hope she is, because there is this girl who is Chinese and I seriously like her and she knows it and likes me (lol i told her on valentines day and got flowers and everything), and we'd be together right now if it wasn't for the fact that we decided to let time pass by to make sure that things "stabalize" in our lives...and especially the issues with our parents (haha- yeah I wanna be w/her forever...that is how much I desire to be with her...I won't continue)

But I wish you the best of luck B/c I'm going 2 need it also ^_^

But unlike everyone here who have ONLY HEARD OF ONE SINGLE INSTANCE IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP, you are the one who has the full picture...and try to talk to her and sort things out. Whtaever you do, don't explode and get mad...If she won't respond to some questions just sayi something like "well...you won't answer now so I won't persist. Instead I'm going to wait until you yourself tell me" but say it in a manner where it'll be engrained in her head and she herself will come and tell you...though it'll take time....
unless she is that thickskulled also
 

RgrPark

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Mar 11, 2000
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No doubt she was telling those people that she was only dating you until she found someone better.
She's a worthless rude piece of crap with no manners...most likely from a peasant lineage.
Dump her TODAY...I don't forsee anything but headaches in the future.
 

DanTMWTMP

Lifer
Oct 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Dacalo
I am a Korean, but your GF is a bitch.

I have numerous Korean friends, guys and gals, but none of them are materialistic and rude to other nationalities. Perhaps it's because I only associate to people who are like that.

I have white friends, Japanese and Chinese friends, and well as black friends, and we are comfortable with each other's presence.

woa where do you live?... (i see you're a sac fan boo you u!!! go lakers!!! ) ok sacramento eh?..maybe i should live there instead...korean people in LA make me sick

i'm korean and i only have 3 korean friends, but a whole mess of chinese and cuacasion friends....it's because most koreans i know are materialistic, rude, too prideful....phokking korean americans, go to hell...and i'm allowed to say this because i'm korean...so too bad

the koreans that are my friends can't speak korean that well, and frugal, and hate their own kind as well...
 

JoeKing

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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next time that happens, break out the cellphone and act like your talking to someone. Be like

"what up biatch wuh you got on ma forty WHAT?!! Nuh uh you aint gonna do that to ma hizzle you slizzle. You jerry riggin my six nut hug? I'll take it plus 5 on the hizhouse. Oh really? Oh really (say this a few few more times slowly getting louder). Well den watsch dem ducks and give em a goozle fo me. BAring to yo motha."

then see how they react.
 

NesuD

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Oct 9, 1999
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This is America Not Korea. American customs and traditions take precedence If she has a problem with that don't sweat it. Make a reasonable attempt to be respectful and courteous according to your customs and traditions as those are what are appropriate here.
 

Renob

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Jun 18, 2000
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Just checking it to see if you dumped her yet???? Or are you going to be a Korean door mat?

Please let us know.
 

polm

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May 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Renob
Just checking it to see if you dumped her yet???? Or are you going to be a Korean door mat?

Please let us know.

well, so far we haven't really talked about the specific incident, but basically said that she was sorry, and she didn't want to fight about it, but that it was a very delicate situation.

She told me that she will try to keep me more aware and clued into her family's customs so that future encounters wont be so difficult for me.

I told her that I would try to be more confident in those situations so that the burden of "social engineering" isn't solely on her shoulders.

BTW...I fixed the SnafOO thing....I just thought it was kinda funny....sort of a geek thing "S.N.A.FOO"
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
totally ignoring him and completely talking in Korean when he probably doesn't understand one word is the right thing? sure she showed respect to the elders and the family that ran the store, but she also has at least a little obligation to him dont ya think? maybe she didn't have to introduce him as her b/f, but she could at least say, this is my friend, Sal Weinerberger [or whatever].

Also, i think its a bit rude to talk entirely in Korean. Fair enough, maybe the family didn't speak English well, but she could have at least talked to him directly even if just for a minute. from what he says it looks like she totally dis'd him and didn't even acknowledge him.

No offence, but it could very well be culture driven and she was doing the appropriate thing
This isn't the movies. There is no culture out there that allows a person to be totally discounted and unacknowledged as living. It was simply ignorant.

How do you know? My gf is 100% Japanese (living there now) and there's a sh!t load of culture in EVERYTHING. You have no idea

Stop interracial dating, I'm Japanese too so you'll gf will have an easier time dating me

To OP:
Intercultural can be very difficult emotionally, and might be something neither of you are ready to handle just yet from what it sounds like. You both have to realize you'll be making a lot of compromises and there are going to be misunderstandings and odd situations. I've been on both ends of the spectrum, as an American/Japanese dating a Danish girl in Denmark to being a Japanese dating white girls (Protestant and Jewish if you want to get into details) in the US to dating a Bulgarian and Malaysian and Korean plus a mix of other 'minorities' in the US to dating Americans and Japanese girls in Japan. You guys definately need to talk things out, there seems to be a bigger issue of lack of communication behind all of this.

Remember that love is great and all but in the end you are just a bf and bfs (and gfs) come and go but she has to continue living her community and associating with her family and interacting with the other people she knows. She gains nothing by rebelling against expectations except make it harder on her later on. And if you start alienating yourselves you are just reinforcing the image of the 'bad white American boy' and there's going to be nothing you are going to be able to change it.

In many cultures it's just not acceptable to introduce your bf/gf as bf/gf especially to elders, the only time you would do that is say with a fiancee, someone you were very very seriously involved with.

Another thing you have to realize is that your actions reflect on her. They won't think of you as Y, the white dude who is X's friend, they'll think of you as X's friend, the white dude Y.

And American culture, what is that exactly? Was it something that the native Americans had and when people immigrated here they suddenly picked up? No, it's something that was created from a number of different cultures, not just Western ones. Who knows, with the way people seem to love sushi maybe it will become part of traditional American cuisine in a few decades.

You may not like taking a backseat in an encounter but sometimes the best thing to do is to just stand quietly behind your gf and not look bored or sulky. You don't need to be the center of attention in every conversation and you have to trust your gf to clue you in when they start talking about you. You do trust her to do that, don't you?
 

MAME

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Sep 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: Renob
Just checking it to see if you dumped her yet???? Or are you going to be a Korean door mat?

Please let us know.

well, so far we haven't really talked about the specific incident, but basically said that she was sorry, and she didn't want to fight about it, but that it was a very delicate situation.

She told me that she will try to keep me more aware and clued into her family's customs so that future encounters wont be so difficult for me.

I told her that I would try to be more confident in those situations so that the burden of "social engineering" isn't solely on her shoulders.

BTW...I fixed the SnafOO thing....I just thought it was kinda funny....sort of a geek thing "S.N.A.FOO"

Hahhaha, I WAS RIGHT! See? It's all part of culture dude, don't get all pissy next time. It's hard being in the melting pot capital of the world
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: NesuD
This is America Not Korea. American customs and traditions take precedence If she has a problem with that don't sweat it. Make a reasonable attempt to be respectful and courteous according to your customs and traditions as those are what are appropriate here.

You have GOT to be kidding. Screw that dude. You do not have to shed your culture to live here. Especially when you're interacting with others from the same culture!

Have you ever taken an Anthropology course?!
 

MAME

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Sep 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: kami333
Stop interracial dating, I'm Japanese too so you'll gf will have an easier time dating me

You just don't like the white man taking your girls! Admit it!

We're lucky, there's been no religion or culture clash since our relationship started so it's been smooth sailing in that respect. Too bad she's get a case of the "crazy bitch" disease and flips out sometimes.


Sex is good though, wee!
 

Whisper

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Feb 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: NesuD
This is America Not Korea. American customs and traditions take precedence If she has a problem with that don't sweat it. Make a reasonable attempt to be respectful and courteous according to your customs and traditions as those are what are appropriate here.

You have GOT to be kidding. Screw that dude. You do not have to shed your culture to live here. Especially when you're interacting with others from the same culture!

Have you ever taken an Anthropology course?!

werd up

Also, as far as some people in this thread mentioning having korean friends, or being korean and having non-korean friends: while it's a similar situation, the reason I didn't place more emphasis on that in my original post is because it's not exactly the same thing. I can see (from your gf's point of view) how it would be easier for her to introduce you and such if you were just a friend as opposed to a boyfriend. If she hasn't told her parents about you yet, then she could very well be paranoid about other people telling them for her. As such, when out with you in public, she might just be paranoid.

Even if her parents do know, then she still might feel awkward and not know quite how to treat you when around elder koreans. Showing affection when in the presence of elders isn't really condoned in much of korean culture (hell, showing romantic affection in general isn't), and so she might just be overdoing it slightly. It's not an excuse, but it could be an explanation.

 

oLLie

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Jan 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: BeefJurky
i dated a korean girl once. her parents refused to believe we were going out, and wanted her to find a nice korean boy. eventually, i think she did.

pwnt.
 

MustangSVT

Lifer
Oct 7, 2000
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delicate my butt

lot of korean ppl have fear of speaking english. and some ppl express that fear by acting weird...

anyway, it was her fault not to include you in the conversation.

but perhaps you should have said, "I will be waiting outside, it was nice meeting you" or something in that manner.

But try to learn from this experience . I dont know how serious you guys are, but if you are serious, expect this to happen over and over and being left out.. unless you learn korean.
 
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