YAGT: Wanting to build ak47 or AR15. Resources?

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luckydragon206

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this is my first AR so i dont have any other parts other than the upper i just bought. i will get this fixed pronto! any recommendations on a muzzle brake though? surefires seem nice but its 150$ kinda pricey
 

JDMnAR1

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this is my first AR so i dont have any other parts other than the upper i just bought. i will get this fixed pronto! any recommendations on a muzzle brake though? surefires seem nice but its 150$ kinda pricey

Check into the YHM (Yankee Hill Machine) Phantom line for one that would meet your state's requirements. They are good quality for an inexpensive price, and they are long enough when permanently mounted on a 14.5" barrel to meet the 16" minmum length to not be considered an NFA item. And definitely send it to ADCO - they can remove the current muzzle device and send it back to you so you can try to sell it to recoup some of your costs. More importantly, they do top-notch work with a speedy turnaround. They did my 14.5" BCM upper.
 

Chunkee

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Jul 28, 2002
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for AK, Yugo M70. You can get a kit to build. Great weapon. I have one.

as for AR..jesus, too many options. AR15.com is your best bet. Get an upper and lower, then add the extras you want.

YUGO m70
 

Rumpltzer

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My local gun ranges won't allow steel ammo (sparks, potential fire hazard) so I deal only with brass-cased and no steel core (no inexpensive Russian ammo ).

1000rnds of factory .223 for the AR runs about $300 delivered. 1000rnds of surplus Yugo 7.62x39 for the AK runs about $230 delivered. Russian ammo will be less expensive in both cases.


I built an AR-15 first. As others have pointed out, it's pretty simple. I bought a stripped lower and some California-specific parts at a local shop, and everything else was purchased online and shipped directly to my house. I opted for a complete upper because I didn't want to get into assembling that. The lower assembly was pretty simple with a parts kit and online instructions. I have a brass hammer and punch set and some electrical tape, and it took less than an hour. I'm guessing that it could have been done with a rock if you don't have fancy tools like a hammer and punch set.

The AR is fun and accurate. I installed a 4X ACOG on it, and I can hit an 8-inch steel plate at 400yrds pretty reliably. I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse!


The AK is still under construction. I bought a Saiga in 7.62x39, parts to convert it to an AK-47 and American-made wood stock set. I've disassembled the Saiga, drilled out all the parts I don't need, and put all the metal through a parts cleaner to get it ready for paint (Duracoat). After paint, I'll put it all back together in its new form.

I've sanded down the stock set, and I'm in the middle of staining it deep red/brown. I'll follow that with many coats of polyurethane and light sanding.

The AK conversion doesn't need to be so involved, but I choose to do it. In any case, building or assembling an AK is going to be more involved than assembling an AR. In the end, I don't expect it to be as accurate a shooter as the AR but I'm sure it'll be fun!


Keep in mind that building/assembling these guns is somewhat like building/assembling computers. I do it because I like making choices on what I want, and I do it because it's fun.
 

lokiju

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Well my budget money I was planning to use to get things rolling had to be used unexpectedly yesterday for a set of 4 new tires on my Subara

820 painful dollars later. Son of a...

Was such a unplanned set back that I may just go the AK route to get things going for sub-$500 and then come back to the topic again down the road for building my own AR.
 

Rumpltzer

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The PMC and Federal are like $312 shipped:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/223-556-ammo.php

This deal popped up on Fatwallet this weekend and Slickguns picked it up. It worked on Saturday night (Sunday morning), but I'm guessing that it's being heavily hit. Federal with ammo can and bonus item for $300 shipped (after $20 rebate):
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1088982/


AIM (shown in Nick's post) charges like $35 for shipping to the West Coast.
 
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