corwin
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He's a whole other level that I'll never touchno shit
Did you watch his Glock 27 video? He hits 5" steels at 40+ yards. That guy is awesome.
He's a whole other level that I'll never touchno shit
Did you watch his Glock 27 video? He hits 5" steels at 40+ yards. That guy is awesome.
He could probably do it...mere mortals, and you especially, not so much
Whatevs brah. Most people never practice beyond 10 yards, and most people never practice double action. That means most people can't shoot a handgun if you take away their easymode single action pistol.
I've been shooting handguns regularly for only two years and I'm a better shot than everyone at the range I go to. The average person is not even close to competent with a handgun.
Which is precisely why I posted what I did.
I've owned a couple snub nose .38s. Shooting them, especially the air-weight Smith, is just punishing and yes, a longer barrel helps with both accuracy, faster target acquisition and absorbing recoil.
Tell you what, I'll take you up on a shooting competition. I'll bring my Model 629 w/8" barrel and you can bring your snub nose .38 and we'll see who has the tighter group at 25 yards... let alone under the duress of an armed attack. And I do shoot that double action.
The secret to shooting snubnoses well is to use target velocity full wadcutters. They recoil quite a bit less than full power ammo, and even work as a defensive load since they penetrate well and make a full caliber hole.
And I'd still put money on you not pulling off a 5" group at 25 yards, even shooting single action
My snubnose is double action only
'Accurate' meaning, of course, the gun is more accurate than anyone (unless we have professional fucking comp shooters here) on this forum is going to be able to utilize. 5" at 25 yards? Bullshit; I don't think someone who claims that knows what 25 yards is like with a handgun. I'm sure some of you guys could do it, but you'd need very good sights.
I mostly used a S&W Police Chief Special (.38 special).
It's a 5 shot revolver. If you're shooting at a distance in excess of 10' you will likely have trouble with police/courts trying to claim self defense. If 5 rounds won't do it, a couple of extra ain't likely to help.
I don't have any real problem with auto's. If it jams I can clear and fire a shot in a single move. For people who can't do that I'd suggest they stick with a revolver. What with Murphy's Law and all.
Fern
My snubnose is double action only
I had one of those once many years ago. It had a black anodized finish though. Those sights are fucking worthless... hell, that entire gun is fucking worthless. So is the Beretta Tomcat I own today.
15 yards is about the distance from my dinning room table to the front door. There's another 5 yards to the back door. I could see 7 yards being a reasonable distance to practice at with 10-15 yards being where you should be comfortable at least getting minute of man accuracy.
I can see the benefits of a revolver, but under stress I'd rather carry at least a semi auto 9mm and a spare magazine. Hit %s in stressful situations go in the toilet immediately.
I had one of those once many years ago. It had a black anodized finish though. Those sights are fucking worthless... hell, that entire gun is fucking worthless. So is the Beretta Tomcat I own today.
Actually, the Tomcat is even worse...
I've got a Bobcat that I've used as my carry
Just put the little F'er in my front pocket.
Fern
Just wondering what brand of revolvers it was and also the bullets were they home-loaded?
Sounds good.
But for me if the situation occurs in my home they're unlikely to be facing my CC gun. I've also got a couple of Colt .357 mag's readily handy.
Fern
S&W revolver, Federal bullets
Call up S&W and they'll fix it for free. The forcing cone to cylinder gap is probably too tight.
Personally, I'd go with a revolver. The reliability is there (even if modern automatics don't jam nearly as much as people would like to believe, at least in my experience) and you are ready. Especially if you're focusing on personal defense. You don't specify a particular revolver, but some can be very small and light. I know someone with a titanium .38 snub nose and it weighs so little, you can barely notice it. I think the sum of the 6 rounds weighs more than the gun itself; it's that light.
Thinking about it more. What situations do you see yourself employing your CC pistol in?
If it's a mugging, sure, that works.
But if you're in an active shooter situation like a lunatic shooting people in a public area are you falling into the 1) get out of there and let the police clean it up or 2) try and stop them?
If I had the stones to attempt number 2, I'd definitely want something I knew I was comfortable with at a little distance. But this is a big moral/legal minefield.
Not for me. If I can stop them, I will.
I'm a decent shot and I make sure I know my gun. I know that I can hit someone at 25 yards no problem. I know I can hit center mass every time at 15 yards. I know I can hit a 6" group at 7 yards.
I just got some zombie hostage targets to really dial things in. I'm finding that a 24" target is just too much area to shoot at. I want to get to 6" groups at 15 yards at full speed.
That's what shooting practice is for. If you don't KNOW that what you can hit, put the gun back in your pocket before you hurt someone.