YAGunT: What's your concealed carry?

[killster1]

You do realize that the HK 45 carries 10 +1 rounds while the Glock 33 caries 9+1 rounds. I guess I'm trying to figure out your math when you state you traded for more bullets by switching? One other question, what were you shooting in that Glock that got 66,000 rounds through it and how many time have you changed out the barrel? There is so much else wrong with your post but I'll start there.

0 barrel changes as its a range gun that i was trying to kill (but gave up on) ,i do have a 2 extra extended .357 barrels as well (they slide right in). Yes the HK holds 10-12 and the glock 33 holds 10 but with extended mag it holds 13+1 and weights alot less.
Sorry about through and threw ya my English isnt very good.
As far as two bullets firing at once in revolver it is possible as ive seen it, ive also seen a .45 bounce off a eye socket first hand so talk about shot placement.

 

[JJ650]

Colt Super 38

 

[pontifex]

Just speaking very generally of the most common semiauto pistol calibers. So yes .45 ACP is not the best for everything, for example it's slower and less flat trajectory than 9mm or .40. I think a 9mm (and .380) is adequate for CCW but for some, like most police, they want higher performance.

yet most use 9mm and .40

 

[deadlyapp]

Reading killsters posts give me a headache.

while I don't doubt that it is *possible* to shoot 66k rounds through any handgun, the fact of the matter is that any rifling is most likely long gone by that point. A high round count is very rarely going to equate to any usefulness in real life.

And I won't nitpick, but equating laser grips to shooting FMJ through a car simply makes no sense to me either.

 

[pontifex]

Everyone who carries a gun is a fucking mongoloid.
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I'd ask you to explain your reasoning on this, but I know you have none.

 

[TechAZ]

Anyone have an opinion on the Glock 22 .40 S&W? I'm thinking about getting one of these, but am a noob with guns.

 

[deadlyapp]

Anyone have an opinion on the Glock 22 .40 S&W? I'm thinking about getting one of these, but am a noob with guns.

If you want a no frills gun, not very pretty, will shoot with sand in it, and a dime a dozen, then it is the perfect gun.

I don't like glocks much, but you really can't beat them as far as price and reliability are concerned.

 

[killster1]

Reading killsters posts give me a headache.

while I don't doubt that it is *possible* to shoot 66k rounds through any handgun, the fact of the matter is that any rifling is most likely long gone by that point. A high round count is very rarely going to equate to any usefulness in real life.

And I won't nitpick, but equating laser grips to shooting FMJ through a car simply makes no sense to me either.

Like i said im not good with English, it was two separate thoughts. If you suck at shooting then laser is worth the money (even if you dont suck they are fun and useful). If you want to make sure your bullets go through stuff then carry some FMJ. *hollow points might barely make it though a car window with some energy to spare.*

I think the fact you dont realize that high reliable as a usefulness means your a *$)*%&@! (you can pick a word to put there)

 

[killster1]

for a good read check this out.

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

Someone else that has tried to kill their glock (they really did try hard i just never cleaned it and shot the shit out of it).

 

[sonnygdude]

Anyone have an opinion on the Glock 22 .40 S&W? I'm thinking about getting one of these, but am a noob with guns.

When I was a LEO I had the G22 issued to me. It's a great pistol, I recommend them. I had about 15,000 rounds through it with one stoppage that I can remember, which was my fault. Not the most precise trigger, but you can still ding 10" plates at 50 yds with practice. G22 is a full-size pistol so it can be a little awkward to conceal in hot weather. For day-to-day stuff I carried a G23 - it's only about 3/4" shorter in length and height but that makes a surprising difference in concealability.

I still use the G23 as my carry gun now that I'm a worthless civilian again

 

[sonnygdude]

Reading killsters posts give me a headache.

while I don't doubt that it is *possible* to shoot 66k rounds through any handgun, the fact of the matter is that any rifling is most likely long gone by that point. A high round count is very rarely going to equate to any usefulness in real life.

And I won't nitpick, but equating laser grips to shooting FMJ through a car simply makes no sense to me either.

Well, one thing about pistols is that the barrel wear tends to be much less than a rifle because lower pressures and lower flame temperatures lead to lower barrel temperatures. Believe it or not, temperature is the biggest factor in barrel wear, not friction. Glocks also have polygonal rifling, which tends to wear better than conventional rifling.

My former employer selected Glocks after some rediculous torture testing, I believe they took a couple of samples well above 50,000 rds and still had reasonable accuracy and reliability with them. I personally put 15,000 rounds through one and it shot as well the day I turned it back in as the day it was issued to me. It even looked pristine. So I do believe that 66,000 rounds is feasible... maybe nearing end of life but definitely feasible.

If you think a pistol can't survive that, maybe you need to switch to a Glock

 

[Zebo]

Anyone have an opinion on the Glock 22 .40 S&W? I'm thinking about getting one of these, but am a noob with guns.

Glocks are probably most reliable auto loader..you should see some of the mud, salt and firing tests and price is right. Problem is grip angle sucks for many. I don't like em. I like Sig's and XD's. I hope you're not thinking of ordering off internet sight unseen. Try them first.

 

[duragezic]

Anyone have an opinion on the Glock 22 .40 S&W? I'm thinking about getting one of these, but am a noob with guns.

As long as you are comfortable with the feel of it (grip circumference, angle, etc), I think any Glock is a great choice. Just decide on the caliber and form factor (full-size, compact, subcompact) and you got a pistol that is incredibly reliable, accurate, simple, versatile, and for very reasonable cost.

 

[jlee]

Ruger LCP or Glock 36.

 

[JEDI]

The LCR isn't a gun you want to shot a lot either. Being a very light gun it's recoil is also very noticeable. (Barrel length isn't important in recoil but the weight of firearm is and grip design can improve perceived recoil). Again it's a gun that is meant to be carried a lot and shot just enough to keep proficient with. The factory grips are great for concealment but lousy for reducing perceived recoil. Being .38 cal it has more power to penetrate. Again I only really practice with it at the 7 yard marker. It's accurate enough out to that point for a carry SD gun.

hm.. what do you think about LCR in .357 but use .38specials?

would this be less recoil since it's heavier?
plus gives you the option of using .357, say in the last chamber?

 

[OFFascist]

I carry a fullsize XD45.

 

[Zebo]

Ruger LCP

Ruger. ...gun banners ... junk. Buy cheap buy twice..


If getting a 380 - SIG P232 no question.

 

[Zebo]

Good read on stopping power
http://www.chuckhawks.com/beginners_stopping_power.htm

 

[deadlyapp]

Ruger. ...gun banners ... junk. Buy cheap buy twice..


If getting a 380 - SIG P232 no question.

I'm surprised that you said that. There are tons of rugers out there that have been great, and I know many people who love theirs.

the fact that they pretty much exactly copied Kel-Tec's design is a little shiesty, but whatever.

 

[irishScott]

Good read on stopping power
http://www.chuckhawks.com/beginners_stopping_power.htm

The only thing you need to know about stopping power: Given a choice, what caliber would you rather be shot in the gut with? Decent read though.

Back to the primary thread topic, how do you guys feel about carrying a 20+ oz gun around all day? Or rather, what are you wearing that can consistently conceal it/carry it comfortably? In the summer I'm usually in a 3 button polo with cargo shorts. I've considered IWB but I like having a full range of motion, and if I so much as stretch: "Dude he's got a gun!" So that leaves me with pocket carry and corresponding pocket pistols. Ideally I'd carry something in .45 or .357 sig, just haven't' found a practical way to do so.

 

[deadlyapp]

The only thing you need to know about stopping power: Given a choice, what caliber would you rather be shot in the gut with? Decent read though.

Back to the primary thread topic, how do you guys feel about carrying a 20+ oz gun around all day? Or rather, what are you wearing that can consistently conceal it/carry it comfortably? In the summer I'm usually in a 3 button polo with cargo shorts. I've considered IWB but I like having a full range of motion, and if I so much as stretch: "Dude he's got a gun!"

My kimber weighs 25 ounces unloaded. With 8 230gr jhp its a bit more than that.

With that said, with my holster, I've had no problems wearing in shorts and a tshirt, although a belt is pretty much a must for my looser fitting shorts. It doesn't ride up too significantly, and I've just gotten in the habit of pulling my shirt down before getting out of the car or standing up from a sit.

It doesn't matter what you have though, if you carry IWB and you stretch, and your shirt isn't long enough, it will be seen. The only way to get out of this is if you carry in your pocket.

Edit: For anyone carrying IWB, I strongly recommend getting a crossbreed supertuck.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/

 

[Zebo]

The only thing you need to know about stopping power: Given a choice, what caliber would you rather be shot in the gut with? Decent read though.

Back to the primary thread topic, how do you guys feel about carrying a 20+ oz gun around all day? Or rather, what are you wearing that can consistently conceal it/carry it comfortably? In the summer I'm usually in a 3 button polo with cargo shorts. I've considered IWB but I like having a full range of motion, and if I so much as stretch: "Dude he's got a gun!" So that leaves me with pocket carry and corresponding pocket pistols. Ideally I'd carry something in .45 or .357 sig, just haven't' found a practical way to do so.

Model 60/640's from S&W are ~ 19 ounces and shoot 357 mag. I'll be honest it kicks and has a little flash but I'm a big boy. I can shoot 10 ga shotgun john Wayne style without too much problem.

It's definitely pocketable, but the weight makes me prefer a IWB holster.

 

[Zebo]

I'm surprised that you said that. There are tons of rugers out there that have been great, and I know many people who love theirs.

the fact that they pretty much exactly copied Kel-Tec's design is a little shiesty, but whatever.

Rugers are POS. They feel cheap in your hands like Timex compared to a swiss watch SIG. I only have one or should I say my boy does a 10/22. Won't even extract 100% of the time. Save your money unless broke IMO.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ruger+is+junk
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Besides...
http://www.google.com/search?q=ruger+anti+gun

 

[deadlyapp]

Rugers are POS. They feel cheap in your hands like Timex compared to a swiss watch SIG. I only have one or should I say my boy does a 10/22. Won't even extract 100% of the time. Save your money unless broke IMO.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ruger+is+junk
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Besides...
http://www.google.com/search?q=ruger+anti+gun

I've got a ruger SR9 that has been fantastic, and the fit and finish is on par with my kimber in most aspects. It does have a fair number of stamped metal parts, but I've been very happy with it.

And nearly everyone I know owns at least one 10/22 in some sort of variation. I don't think I've seen a single one with any feeding or extracting issue, even with the super cheap walmart junk.

but meh.

Edit: You should read through the first link, most of the links there aren't even related to ruger junk, although several do mention the junkiness of their revolvers, which I will not dispute.

And while I agree that Ruger Sr.'s motives were stupid, he's gone, and I won't hold that against purchasing a ruger firearm.

 

[Zebo]

You won't see any machine marks on a P232. Has a fixed barrel so very accurate. Totally snag free design since everything is rounded barrel, slide, guard, etc which takes more machining.. No competition. Try one you won't wonder why they cost so much it'll seem like a deal. Course I don't like 380 so don't own it, but do have a 220 and 226 and they are not as nice IMO.