Yankees being sued....

RightIsWrong

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Gotta love forced patriotism. It's almost as effect as forced democracy.

A New York man has filed a lawsuit because he was thrown out of Yankee Stadium for trying to leave his seat during the playing of "God Bless America."
Bradford Campeau-Laurion, who lives in Queens, N.Y., said in court papers he needed to use the bathroom, Newsday reported. He filed a lawsuit in federal court Wednesday, saying the New York Police Department and the Yankees violated his rights.

Playing a recording of Kate Smith singing "God Bless America" has been a regular part of the seventh-inning stretch at Yankee Stadium since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Campeau-Laurion said police first told him he could not leave his seat when the song was played last August. When he tried to go around an officer blocking his way, he was escorted out of the stadium.

The police department says he had been drinking heavily and was using bad language. He says he had only had a couple of beers.

"I love America, and I think America is the greatest country in the world. But it should be my right how I choose to show that," Campeau-Laurion said
 

jpeyton

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You can't leave your seat? WTF kind of policy is that?

Hope he wins this lawsuit.
 

racolvin

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oh that's bs ... I can leave my seat whenever I friggin feel like it. What the hell is that, some sort of elementary school rule for assembly?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: KLin
I hope he loses for filing such a frivolous lawsuit.

How is being tossed out of a ball game for needing to take a piss during the taped playback of a song make for a frivolous lawsuit?
 

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Originally posted by: KLin
I hope he loses for filing such a frivolous lawsuit.

Not being able to evacuate your bladder could lead to serious medical consequences, including death.

If I were the yankees, I'd offer this guy some really good season tix....
 

Harvey

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Original story on newsday.com

Originally posted by: KLin

I hope he loses for filing such a frivolous lawsuit.

The guy's a season ticket holder. By itself, that entitles him to a little preferred treatment. There's nothing frivolous about suing the jackasses who screwed him out of the value of his ticket, screwed up his plans and the plans of whoever he was with, and subjected him to public embarrassment in front of his friends and whoever knows him from his season ticket.

Maybe you'd prefer to shit your pants the next time you go while you're at a public event. :thumbsdown:
 

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I think the Yankees have the right to enforce any policy they would like. It may be stupid, but if you don't like it then don't go to the game. I don't think he has any right to sue. It would be like going to a restaurant and them asking you not to leave the table while you eat. Its certainly their right to tell you that, and its your right to not dine there.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the Yankees have the right to enforce any policy they would like. It may be stupid, but if you don't like it then don't go to the game. I don't think he has any right to sue. It would be like going to a restaurant and them asking you not to leave the table while you eat. Its certainly their right to tell you that, and its your right to not dine there.

So what you're saying is that a person who buys a ticket has no rights? Think carefully before you answer, because your restaurant analogy was flawed. One usually pays after one eats at dining establishments. OTOH, ticket holders purchase in advance, and the venue has a legal obligation to fulfill. What you're trying to say is that the property rights of ticket holders means nothing.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I think the Yankees have the right to enforce any policy they would like.

Then stop thinking. You're really bad at it.

It may be stupid, but if you don't like it then don't go to the game.

BULLSHIT! The stadium is a public facility. Health laws and other laws regarding public facilities mandate that they have to provide restroom facilities for their patrons, which they do. There is no law stipulating when a paying patron can and cannot use those facilities.

I haven't been to the new Yankee Staduim, but I'd be willing to be there's no signs posted stipulating any such restrictions, either, so please tell us how he should know that he, as a paying customer, is supposed to he won't be permitted to use the restrooms they provide at any specific moment. :roll:

I don't think... he has any right to sue. It would be like going to a restaurant and them asking you not to leave the table while you eat. Its certainly their right to tell you that, and its your right to not dine there.

I doubt that for the same reasons. If you really believe that, please provide N.Y. State or municiple statutes to support your ridiculous assertion.
 

bozack

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Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him.

As a season ticket holder he should know the rules or what typically happens at a game.
 

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Originally posted by: bozack
Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him

So if their policy was to not allow blacks to see baseball games, that would be alright?
 

Drift3r

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Wait so he was supposed to of pissed all over himself because of some moron with a misguided idiot version of patriotism? Not to mention that he paid for his season tickets in advance. That is what I'll like to call a load of bullshit.
 

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: bozack
Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him

So if their policy was to not allow blacks to see baseball games, that would be alright?

Nice strawman
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: bozack
Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him

So if their policy was to not allow blacks to see baseball games, that would be alright?

Nice strawman

Yet having to deal with a basic human bodily function is not a strawman.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Drift3r

Yet having to deal with basic human bodily functions is not a strawman.

No, trying to equate this to a race or segregation issue is a weak attempt at a strawman...

With your pathetic argument, the guy is a season ticket holder, he knows that they do this every game....he should have planned ahead.

When going to events that I know have a point in them where I must be present I make it a point to piss or whatever before they get to that point.

Here is to hoping this idiot loses.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: bozack
Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him

So if their policy was to not allow blacks to see baseball games, that would be alright?

Nice strawman

It's might be an extreme example, but it's not a straw man. If the venue can boot a ticket holder for no other cause than political beliefs (under the guise of 'patriotism'), doing the same for race or religious beliefs is hardly a stretch (or even a slippery slope).
And that is what we're talking about here, you just lack objectivity. Think of it this way, imagine a ticket holder could be booted from (or prevented access to) the venue for no cause whatsoever. Because that is more or less what happened here.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Drift3r

Yet having to deal with basic human bodily functions is not a strawman.

No, trying to equate this to a race or segregation issue is a weak attempt at a strawman...

With your pathetic argument, the guy is a season ticket holder, he knows that they do this every game....he should have planned ahead.

When going to events that I know have a point in them where I must be present I make it a point to piss or whatever before they get to that point.

Here is to hoping this idiot loses.

Bullshit. There is no law forcing or enforceable policy that anyone in the paying public to stand and be there during the national anthem. You just pulled that out of your ass.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Drift3r

Yet having to deal with basic human bodily functions is not a strawman.

No, trying to equate this to a race or segregation issue is a weak attempt at a strawman...

With your pathetic argument, the guy is a season ticket holder, he knows that they do this every game....he should have planned ahead.

When going to events that I know have a point in them where I must be present I make it a point to piss or whatever before they get to that point.

Here is to hoping this idiot loses.

Yes, because it is important that subservience to your nationalist belief system be enforced by govt (in whose courts is the only place this idiot could lose) at all costs, especially when you have self-deluded this particular brand of authoritarianism to be freedom.
 

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Three things:

1. If i had a dollar from every drunk that claimed they only had "a couple of beers", I'd be posting this message from my own island.

2. Wasn't the new Yankee stadium built with a large portion of tax payer dollars?

3. Yankees suck
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Drift3r

Yet having to deal with basic human bodily functions is not a strawman.

No, trying to equate this to a race or segregation issue is a weak attempt at a strawman...

With your pathetic argument, the guy is a season ticket holder, he knows that they do this every game....he should have planned ahead.

When going to events that I know have a point in them where I must be present I make it a point to piss or whatever before they get to that point.

Here is to hoping this idiot loses.

Bullshit. There is no law forcing or enforceable policy that anyone in the paying public to stand and be there during the national anthem. You just pulled that out of your ass.

'God Bless America' is not the national anthem.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Three things:

1. If i had a dollar from every drunk that claimed they only had "a couple of beers", I'd be posting this message from my own island.

2. Wasn't the new Yankee stadium built with a large portion of tax payer dollars?

3. Yankees suck

For number 2 you are correct the Yankees do not own the stadium.

Edit: If he was being unruly and disturbing the peace they should of used that as the real excuse for throwing him out of the ballpark. Blocking him from heading to the rest room during the song "God Bless America" and using that as a motive to oust him was ridicules. If he was indeed drunk he would of eventually given the cops a legitimate reason to toss him out if they would of followed him.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Drift3r

Yet having to deal with basic human bodily functions is not a strawman.

No, trying to equate this to a race or segregation issue is a weak attempt at a strawman...

With your pathetic argument, the guy is a season ticket holder, he knows that they do this every game....he should have planned ahead.

When going to events that I know have a point in them where I must be present I make it a point to piss or whatever before they get to that point.

Here is to hoping this idiot loses.

Bullshit. There is no law forcing or enforceable policy that anyone in the paying public to stand and be there during the national anthem. You just pulled that out of your ass.

'God Bless America' is not the national anthem.

My bad I just associated it as the anthem for some odd reason. Of course this further illustrates and makes the point of not needing to stand around and piss your pants.
 
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