Yankees being sued....

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: bozack

Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him.

As a season ticket holder he should know the rules or what typically happens at a game.

What "RULES" would those be? Are they posted? Do you think any law court in the nation would uphold any rule mandating that a paying customer must control when they have to take a leak? :roll:

Links and proof or you're full of shit, and I hope you're in some public place where they won't let you use the restroom.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said.

Which was it? Suppression of perceived anti-nationalism or did he get significantly out of control? If he was just drunk and cursing, that is pretty normal for a sporting event.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said.

Which was it? Suppression of perceived anti-nationalism or did he get significantly out of control? If he was just drunk and cursing, that is pretty normal for a sporting event.

The reason for courts and law suits is to determine facts. My only dispute is with idiots who don't know the facts calling the suit, itself, frivolous or claiming that, if he was otherwise well behaved, that anyone had the right to boot him from the stadium for wanting to go to the can while they were the playing of "God Bless America."

Hell! It wasn't even the national anthem. :roll:

 

[JasonSix78]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Three things:

1. If i had a dollar from every drunk that claimed they only had "a couple of beers", I'd be posting this message from my own island.

2. Wasn't the new Yankee stadium built with a large portion of tax payer dollars?

3. Yankees suck

Point number 1 is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. It's a possibility that he was being a drunken ass to the officers and they gave him the boot. Kicking someone out just because they want to go to the bathroom during a song seems ridiculous.

 

[mugs]

I'm sure that hundreds of people get up to go to the bathroom every game during the 7th inning stretch. It seems unlikely that this guy was singled out solely because he wanted to go to the bathroom. It doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[UberNeuman]

One of my rules is this: I need to see more before I get on my high horse....

Unless I'm missing something, it, at this point, just seems to be a guy pissed off.....

More facts are needed as it seems to be a "he said, she said" argument....

 

[robphelan]

i think Ray Charles' version of God Bless America should be our new national anthem.

edit: btw, i thought this was a 'free' country

 

[CLite]

1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

 

[MegaWorks]

If this is true, it's a very scary incident. It's even more scary to see people in this forum saying that "it's the rule". I swear this country is progressively turning into a fascist state.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Harvey

What "RULES" would those be? Are they posted? Do you think any law court in the nation would uphold any rule mandating that a paying customer must control when they have to take a leak? :roll:

Links and proof or you're full of shit, and I hope you're in some public place where they won't let you use the restroom.

How is Yankee stadium a "public place" last I checked you needed a ticket to get in....

And I have been in one situation I can think of where an establishment did not allow me to use the facilities while on the road, sure it sucked but those were their rules, thus I kept driving till I found somewhere else, in retrospect I guess I should have sued.

 

[sandorski]

If his story is accurate, he should Win. I suspect he may have become belligerent at some point due to needing the Washroom and a Security dude may have been involved in some fashion. In which case, it's hard to judge whether or not he was wronged or whther he was in the wrong.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic

It's might be an extreme example, but it's not a straw man. If the venue can boot a ticket holder for no other cause than political beliefs (under the guise of 'patriotism'), doing the same for race or religious beliefs is hardly a stretch (or even a slippery slope).
And that is what we're talking about here, you just lack objectivity. Think of it this way, imagine a ticket holder could be booted from (or prevented access to) the venue for no cause whatsoever. Because that is more or less what happened here.

Vic, I always thought you were smarter...learn something new every day. You presume he was booted for some type of political agenda, instead of the more likely scenerio in which he was disrespectful and probabily a drunken jackass. And interesting how extremely lame examples are accepted when they go in favor of the liberal perspective, but use one to bolster a conservative viewpoint and well then that is just bullshit right?

As for your other outlandish analogy, I will give you the satisfaction of replying with that I would have no problem with that, it is a private establishment and in the purest of existences they should be able to pick whomever they want to serve as customers, and yes they should be able to boot whomever they want.

Again, I hope the guy loses this case and also has to pay all associated fees, now that would be justice.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the Yankees have the right to enforce any policy they would like. It may be stupid, but if you don't like it then don't go to the game. I don't think he has any right to sue. It would be like going to a restaurant and them asking you not to leave the table while you eat. Its certainly their right to tell you that, and its your right to not dine there.

Show me the "policy" in writing. Made-up policies don't count for shit.

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: bozack
Here is to hoping he loses. It is their stadium...they have every right to boot him

So if their policy was to not allow blacks to see baseball games, that would be alright?

Nice strawman

No strawman there, nice try.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
Why are you always on the wrong side of every single issue posted on these forums?
.....
No strawman there, nice try.

So because someone disagrees with the mainstream opinion of a fora then they are on the "wrong" side....right

And again, it was a weak far fetched bs analogy....and to be accurate this guy got in to see the event, he only screwed himelf by being a dumbass.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic

It's might be an extreme example, but it's not a straw man. If the venue can boot a ticket holder for no other cause than political beliefs (under the guise of 'patriotism'), doing the same for race or religious beliefs is hardly a stretch (or even a slippery slope).
And that is what we're talking about here, you just lack objectivity. Think of it this way, imagine a ticket holder could be booted from (or prevented access to) the venue for no cause whatsoever. Because that is more or less what happened here.

Vic, I always thought you were smarter...learn something new every day. You presume he was booted for some type of political agenda, instead of the more likely scenerio in which he was disrespectful and probabily a drunken jackass. And interesting how extremely lame examples are accepted when they go in favor of the liberal perspective, but use one to bolster a conservative viewpoint and well then that is just bullshit right?

As for your other outlandish analogy, I will give you the satisfaction of replying with that I would have no problem with that, it is a private establishment and in the purest of existences they should be able to pick whomever they want to serve as customers, and yes they should be able to boot whomever they want.

Again, I hope the guy loses this case and also has to pay all associated fees, now that would be justice.

Okay, first, you're assuming he was being a drunken jackass, and second, who here is pushing a 'liberal perspective?'

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic
Okay, first, you're assuming he was being a drunken jackass, and second, who here is pushing a 'liberal perspective?'

And you're assuming that the was perfectly calm and instead the security or whomever had some type of conservative agenda they were pushing.

And please.....

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: JSFLY
Why are you always on the wrong side of every single issue posted on these forums?
.....
No strawman there, nice try.

So because someone disagrees with the mainstream opinion of a fora then they are on the "wrong" side....right

And again, it was a weak far fetched bs analogy....and to be accurate this guy got in to see the event, he only screwed himelf by being a dumbass.

Far fetched, maybe
Bs, nope.... it's happened before in American history
Weak, nope...... looks to be a pretty good argument from my perspective.

Regardless, definitely not a strawman. You need to brush up on Fallacies before throwing around terms like strawman around.


If we take the premise of the story to be true, as we ALL did until JasonSix78 intelligently brought up an alternative, that this man was booted because he needed to use the restroom, then not allowing him to relieve himself is being on the wrong side of issue. period.

If you don't think there's anything wrong with this, then the next time you need to use the restroom in a public place, during which time a formality is in Occurrence, think of how outraged you'd feel if someone threw you out of the damn place instead because you left your seat.

I am of course arguing based on the assumption that the OP's article is factually accurate. We can speculate all we want about who in fact did what, but then it'll be only speculation and nothing more.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using 'God Bless America' as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when 'God Bless America' starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over? What about the National Anthem? When most people are still getting into the park and trying to get seated?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
Okay, first, you're assuming he was being a drunken jackass, and second, who here is pushing a 'liberal perspective?'

And you're assuming that the was perfectly calm and instead the security or whomever had some type of conservative agenda they were pushing.

And please.....

So are you saying that one should be required to be perfectly calm at a ball game? Or are you saying that refraining from taking a piss during the playing of 'God Bless America' at a Yankees game represents a proper conservative mindset (and only a proper conservative mindset)?

Are you really this fscking partisan stupid? Really?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

My bad. I updated. So, are people in not allowed to get out of their seat for 'God Bless America' but it's alright for the National Anthem?

I know when I've gone to games, a lot of the time, it's when the National Anthem is playing.

More than likely this is why he was booted: "Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said"

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
Far fetched, maybe
Bs, nope.... it's happened before in American history
Weak, nope...... looks to be a pretty good argument from my perspective.

Regardless, definitely not a strawman. You need to brush up on Fallacies before throwing around terms like strawman around.


If we take the premise of the story to be true, as we ALL did until JasonSix78 intelligently brought up an alternative, that this man was booted because he needed to use the restroom, then not allowing him to relieve himself is being on the wrong side of issue. period.

If you don't think there's anything wrong with this, then the next time you need to use the restroom in a public place, during which time a formality is in Occurrence, think of how outraged you'd feel if someone threw you out of the damn place instead because you left your seat.

I am of course arguing based on the assumption that the OP's article is factually accurate. We can speculate all we want about who in fact did what, but then it'll be only speculation and nothing more.

Far Fetched mabye....please and your bit about living in the past is funny, using that as a rational should we also assume that there could be another holocaust, and of course you think it is a fantastic argument as your the one who proposed such a stupid analogy.

As for your followup lame analogy, I can be certain that I will not place myself in such a situation, and if they did throw me out at least I'd get the chance to piss.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

My bad. I updated. So, are people in not allowed to get out of their seat for 'God Bless America' but it's alright for the National Anthem?

I know when I've gone to games, a lot of the time, it's when the National Anthem is playing.

More than likely this is why he was booted: "Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said"

Why do we bother with courts of law when internet posters already know it all?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

My bad. I updated. So, are people in not allowed to get out of their seat for 'God Bless America' but it's alright for the National Anthem?

I know when I've gone to games, a lot of the time, it's when the National Anthem is playing.

More than likely this is why he was booted: "Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said"

Why do we bother with courts of law when internet posters already know it all?

And there are no bogus law suits? Funny, how no other paper has picked this story up and he's suing now. Why didn't he make a stink about it then?

Have you ever been to a baseball game? The 7th Inning Stretch where traditional, everyone gets out of their seats to stretch.

How about some proof that there is such a policy at Yankees stadium? Again, another frivolous lawsuit.