Yankees being sued....

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said.

Which was it? Suppression of perceived anti-nationalism or did he get significantly out of control? If he was just drunk and cursing, that is pretty normal for a sporting event.

Shouldn't be though. I took my son to a pro football game a few years back, and what a joke that was - just a huge collection of loud, obnoxious drunken idiots, many of whom were no doubt going to attempt to drive themselves home afterward. Pro hockey fans appear to be a little more civilized, at least in my limited experience, and baseball fans seem to generally behave themselves, especially since the local MLB team stinks and the games are rarely full (or exciting).

 

[waggy]

forced patriotism just pisses me off.

though it does kinda bring up a funny story. I took my father in law to one his kids basketball games. My FIL was in Vietnam and really messed up his back. he should have never worked but since he had a family he went and got a job. which messed his back up even more. Now the guy can barely stand or walk unless he has a good day (which is very rare).

well we got to the basketball game early so we can get a seat on the ground bleachers. Well the National Anthem was going to start and some guy (like 35 or so) says stand up. we didn't look at him since we didn't know who he was talking to. Then he taps my FIL on the shoulder and says "i said stand up now" at which point he starts to struggle up. i tell him to set back down and turn to the guy. but BEFORE i can say a word a old guy lays into him. The old guy tells the guy that my FIL has already did more for his country then he ever will and he has earned the right to sit. he said a whole bunch but hell my memory sucks. but i do remember that other people were turning to see what was going on. the guy sat there the rest of the game and didn't say a damn word.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Mursilis
a huge collection of loud, obnoxious drunken idiots, many of whom were no doubt going to attempt to drive themselves home afterward.

Sounds exactly like a Saints game at New Orleans' Super Dome. It is part of the wholesome family atmosphere.

 

[Triumph]

I'm with the frivolous lawsuit crowd. Do we really need to sue every time someone is wronged in any way imaginable? Poor guy, got kicked out of a game, let me guess, now he can't go to work because of "emotional stress."

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: robphelan
i think Ray Charles' version of God Bless America should be our new national anthem.

edit: btw, i thought this was a 'free' country

I do too, as soon as someone can show me where the country called America is on the map.

It's right below the country called North.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: KLin
I hope he loses for filing such a frivolous lawsuit.

If he was drunk and disorderly, being ejected from the stadium was reasonable.

If he was ejected solely or majorly because he attempted to leave his seat during the playing of the national anthem, then his lawsuit isn't remotely frivolous.

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
911, NY, 911, NY, 911, NY, 911

Running for president?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: her209

Title 36 United States Code:
§ 301. National Anthem.
(a) Designation. ? The composition consisting of the words and music known as
the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. ? During a rendition of the national anthem ?
(1) when the flag is displayed ?
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and
hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the
anthem and maintain that position until the last note.
(2) When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music
and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

EDIT: Oh, nvm, the article said "God Bless America". Fuck that!

See page 9

Nature of Codification of Customs and Rules
The Flag Code is a codification of customs and rules established for the use of
certain civilians and civilian groups. No penalty or punishment is specified in the
Flag Code for display of the flag of the United States in a manner other than as
suggested. Cases which have construed the former 36 U.S.C. § 17521 have concluded
that the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and
advisory.

 

[microbial]

Originally posted by: SViscusi
This isn't the first time that this has happened. There have been multiple reports over the years of the Yankees doing this, even going as far as to chain the door to sections shut to keep people from moving around.

Link

Seconds before ?The Star-Spangled Banner? and ?God Bless America? are played, police officers, security guards and ushers turn their backs to the American flag in center field, stare at fans moving through the stands and ask them to stop. Across the stadium?s lower section, ushers stand every 20 feet to block the main aisle with chains.

...

Only the Yankees continue to play ?God Bless America? at every home game. They are also the only ones to use chains to prevent fans from moving during both songs, which concerns some civil liberties advocates.

Also the claim by the NYPD that they ejected the fan because he was drunk and disorderly was refuted by another witness a few days later. And even a witness provided by the Yankees could only claim that the man swore after the cops wouldn't let him thru.

Link

Meanwhile, after seeing CBS 2's report on the incident, witness Pete Montenez contacted CBS 2 to refute the officers' story. He does not know Campeau-Laurion, but was sitting near him during the game, saying he watched as it all went down. "As far as him hootin' and hollerin' and standing on the chair, no way," he says. But a spokesperson fro Yankee Stadium put CBS 2 in touch with another fan who says Campeau-Laurion cursed at police when they asked him to stay for the song.

Blocking exits with chains, even for the amount of time it takes to sing GBA, is a really, really bad idea. No doubt it violates fire code. You know, the code those same firemen who are in part being honored, enforce.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: robphelan
i think Ray Charles' version of God Bless America should be our new national anthem.

edit: btw, i thought this was a 'free' country

I do too, as soon as someone can show me where the country called America is on the map.

It's right below the country called North.

Which includes Mexico, Canada, etc. all Americans.

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: mugs
I'm sure that hundreds of people get up to go to the bathroom every game during the 7th inning stretch. It seems unlikely that this guy was singled out solely because he wanted to go to the bathroom. It doesn't pass the smell test.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! I call bullshit on the entire story.

What's the most likely scenario? (a) A drunk and disorderly guy gets ejected from a Yankee game for being drunk and disorderly; or (b) the NYPD and the New York Yankees Organization agree on a formal policy whereby nobody is allowed to leave their seats during the playing of a song in a public arena and thereby assure themselves of getting sued?

This guy's full of shit.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
There is nothing more ironic IMO than when a self-professed conservative utters the words, "there should be a law." Next thing you know, some liberal is gonna be demanding we "stay the course."

Laws that prevent waste of taxpayer money to be exact....and who knows given the messiah is in charge I wouldn't be surprised if those worse are uttered from many a liberal in the near future.

And now the mindless utterings of a bitter braindead troll. Dude, you are sad.

I guess a $500 million public subsidy toward the construction of a new palace for a private 'for-profit' sports entrepreneur doesn't count as *waste*, nor the shenanigans behind the bond financing.

 

[MrMatt]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the Yankees have the right to enforce any policy they would like. It may be stupid, but if you don't like it then don't go to the game. I don't think he has any right to sue. It would be like going to a restaurant and them asking you not to leave the table while you eat. Its certainly their right to tell you that, and its your right to not dine there.

so they could make a rule that all black people will be called the N word by staff? F that.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

What's the most likely scenario? (a) A drunk and disorderly guy gets ejected from a Yankee game for being drunk and disorderly; or (b) the NYPD and the New York Yankees Organization agree on a formal policy whereby nobody is allowed to leave their seats during the playing of a song in a public arena and thereby assure themselves of getting sued?

This guy's full of shit.

What's the likelyhood that you KNOW the facts?

(a) You were there or have seen videos or multiple eye witness accounts, and you know WTF you're talking about; or

(b) The guy was full of piss, and he needed to go to the can, and you don't know your ass from that hole you're digging for yourself.

Survey says, (b) YOU are the one who's full of shit.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

What's the most likely scenario? (a) A drunk and disorderly guy gets ejected from a Yankee game for being drunk and disorderly; or (b) the NYPD and the New York Yankees Organization agree on a formal policy whereby nobody is allowed to leave their seats during the playing of a song in a public arena and thereby assure themselves of getting sued?

This guy's full of shit.

What's the likelyhood that you KNOW the facts?

(a) You were there or have seen videos or multiple eye witness accounts, and you know WTF you're talking about; or

(b) The guy was full of piss, and he needed to go to the can, and you don't know your ass from that hole you're digging for yourself.

Survey says, (b) YOU are the one who's full of shit.

He isn't stating the facts but the most likely scenario. A scenario that I agree is the most likely that occurred.

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

What's the most likely scenario? (a) A drunk and disorderly guy gets ejected from a Yankee game for being drunk and disorderly; or (b) the NYPD and the New York Yankees Organization agree on a formal policy whereby nobody is allowed to leave their seats during the playing of a song in a public arena and thereby assure themselves of getting sued?

This guy's full of shit.

What's the likelyhood that you KNOW the facts?

(a) You were there or have seen videos or multiple eye witness accounts, and you know WTF you're talking about; or

(b) The guy was full of piss, and he needed to go to the can, and you don't know your ass from that hole you're digging for yourself.

Survey says, (b) YOU are the one who's full of shit.

"The officers observed a male standing on his seat, cursing, using inappropriate language and acting in a disorderly manner while reeking of alcohol and decided to eject him rather than subject others to his offensive behavior," police spokesman Paul Browne said in an e-mail.

Reuters.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

"The officers observed a male standing on his seat, cursing, using inappropriate language and acting in a disorderly manner while reeking of alcohol and decided to eject him rather than subject others to his offensive behavior," police spokesman Paul Browne said in an e-mail.

Reuters.

Uh-huh... and what else do you think a "police spokesman" is going to say to the press? :roll:

I have no way of knowing the facts. Neither do you. That's for a court to determine. Saying the guy's "full of shit" before you do makes you the one who's full of fecal matter.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

"The officers observed a male standing on his seat, cursing, using inappropriate language and acting in a disorderly manner while reeking of alcohol and decided to eject him rather than subject others to his offensive behavior," police spokesman Paul Browne said in an e-mail.

Reuters.

Uh-huh... and what else do you think a "police spokesman" is going to say to the press? :roll:

I have no way of knowing the facts. Neither do you. That's for a court to determine. Saying the guy's "full of shit" before you do makes you the one who's full of fecal matter.

So, there are no frivolous lawsuits? No one can have an opinion until after the case has reached a conclusion?

 

[fallout man]

"Hey you, STAND UP. STAND UP AND SMELL YOUR OWN. Can you smell that? That's the smell of America! Pussy unpatriotic ingrates, I tells ya..."

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

So, there are no frivolous lawsuits? No one can have an opinion until after the case has reached a conclusion?

I didn't say that. I said YOU have no proof that THIS case is a frivolous suit. That's what courts are supposed to determine.

The guy's a paying customer. In fact, he's a season ticket holder. Without proof, who the fsck YOU to call him a liar when he says he had to use a public restroom to take a leak, let alone deny his right to do so?

Don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

 

[Babbles]

There are sort of rules like this if you go to the symphony, opera, and ballet. You are not to get up from your seat during the performance, have to be seated by a certain time and so forth. Fundamentally there is no difference between going to the opera and seeing a baseball game - you buy tickets, take a seat, and there are intermissions.

So with all of that being said is it more appropriate to kick somebody out of the symphony for violating a 'rule' but not doing so for something a bit more "unrefined" (for lack of a better word) such as a baseball game?

Assuming he is a season ticket holder, he should have known the policy. However I do think the stadium overreacted - as well as the season ticket holder. My only question, again, is that do we have separate 'rules' or standards depending on if it is a 'classy' event or not?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

So, there are no frivolous lawsuits? No one can have an opinion until after the case has reached a conclusion?

I didn't say that. I said YOU have no proof that THIS case is a frivolous suit. That's what courts are supposed to determine.

The guy's a paying customer. In fact, he's a season ticket holder. Without proof, who the fsck YOU to call him a liar when he says he had to use a public restroom to take a leak, let alone deny his right to do so?

Don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

:laugh:

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Babbles
There are sort of rules like this if you go to the symphony, opera, and ballet. You are not to get up from your seat during the performance, have to be seated by a certain time and so forth. Fundamentally there is no difference between going to the opera and seeing a baseball game - you buy tickets, take a seat, and there are intermissions.

So with all of that being said is it more appropriate to kick somebody out of the symphony for violating a 'rule' but not doing so for something a bit more "unrefined" (for lack of a better word) such as a baseball game?

Assuming he is a season ticket holder, he should have known the policy. However I do think the stadium overreacted - as well as the season ticket holder. My only question, again, is that do we have separate 'rules' or standards depending on if it is a 'classy' event or not?

If Baron Von Huffnpuff really has to take a shit during an opera, he can still excuse himself and the ushers aren't going to prevent him from doing so. He can then come back to his seat during intermission, and isn't likely to get kicked out of the venue.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Babbles

There are sort of rules like this if you go to the symphony, opera, and ballet. You are not to get up from your seat during the performance, have to be seated by a certain time and so forth. Fundamentally there is no difference between going to the opera and seeing a baseball game - you buy tickets, take a seat, and there are intermissions.

Nah... There's no difference between expected audience behavior at a symphony, opera, or ballet and a stadium full of cheering fans at a ballgame.

In many musical and theatrical venues, you won't be seated if you arrive after curtain time, but even then, if you have to go, you have to go, and you just do so as quietly and politely as possible, and no one will arrest or boot anyone for it.

What else would they expect you to do? Pee in your shoe or your neighbor's lemonade cup or dump in their box of chocolate covered nuts and raisins? :shocked:

Get real! :roll:

 

[heyheybooboo]

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