Yankees being sued....

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
So are you saying that one should be required to be perfectly calm at a ball game? Or are you saying that refraining from taking a piss during the playing of 'God Bless America' at a Yankees game represents a proper conservative mindset (and only a proper conservative mindset)?

Are you really this fscking partisan stupid? Really?

And the twisting begins...

I am saying that one should be respectful when the time calls for being such. I am saying that the liberals are twisting this into a conservative or nationalistic issue because of the issue cited, when the reality is that more than likely it was just a convenient excuse to boot someone who was being a dickhead.

Chances are this guy knows he was a drunken jackass, disobeyed the request of the security guard or whomever to hold his piss for three minutes and is now going to waste taxpayer money on yet another friviolous lawsuit.

I'm with you about him being a belligerent ass and getting thrown out but you lose me when you suggest that he should have obeyed any request to wait until this nationalistic song if finished before he used the facilities. Personally I'm thinking this is not the case and that he was just being a dick but if it was the case and it's verified by witnesses then he has a good case for a lawsuit.

The again this is the Yankees and all of us in the Boston area can confirm that the Yankees suck!!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
5:55 EST . . . . . breaking news . . . . . score update . . . . .

Cleveland Indians - - - 20
NY Yankees - - - - - - - 2

middle of the 5th



"" It must be The Curse of Campeau-Laurion ""

Bwuahahah!!!:thumbsup:

 

[marincounty]

My initial reaction is that this guy is probably a douchebag that was drunk. But thinking about it, baseball and football stadiums have become one of the last refuges of pseudo-patriotism. And this is the land of Rudy and 9/11 and Amadou Diallo.

Those of you saying frivolous lawsuit, let's just wait until the case is settled.

If what this guy alleges is true, and he beats the Yankees in court, then we all owe him a debt of gratitude for being a patriot, and willing to take on the system. This is not an easy road he has taken, and he will be subject to lots of abuse. I find it hard to believe he will subject himself to all of this abuse and second-guessing just because he was drunk and got thrown out of the ballgame.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
5:55 EST . . . . . breaking news . . . . . score update . . . . .

Cleveland Indians - - - 20
NY Yankees - - - - - - - 2

middle of the 5th



"" It must be The Curse of Campeau-Laurion ""

Bwuahahah!!!:thumbsup:

:laugh: I'm guessing most of the Yankee fans were gone before the 7th inning stretch.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
5:55 EST . . . . . breaking news . . . . . score update . . . . .

Cleveland Indians - - - 20
NY Yankees - - - - - - - 2

middle of the 5th



"" It must be The Curse of Campeau-Laurion ""

Bwuahahah!!!:thumbsup:

:laugh: I'm guessing most of the Yankee fans were gone before the 7th inning stretch.

At least, that will keep them from being tossed when they play "God Bless America." :laugh:

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: her209

Title 36 United States Code:
§ 301. National Anthem.
(a) Designation. ? The composition consisting of the words and music known as
the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. ? During a rendition of the national anthem ?
(1) when the flag is displayed ?
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and
hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the
anthem and maintain that position until the last note.
(2) When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music
and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

EDIT: Oh, nvm, the article said "God Bless America". Fuck that!

Fuck that for the national anthem also. That's utter bullshit. There is no way that any US Code is going to dictate to me that I have to stand at attention for a freaking song. Period. End of story.

The Constitution says that I don't need to do jack and even though I have always stood previously, seeing this makes me want to sit every time now.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Fuck that for the national anthem also. That's utter bullshit. There is no way that any US Code is going to dictate to me that I have to stand at attention for a freaking song. Period. End of story.

The Constitution says that I don't need to do jack and even though I have always stood previously, seeing this makes me want to sit every time now.

Dude, you're not an American until you sport a raging hard-on during Kate Smith's rendition of 'God Bless America." Stand at attention, Bro. Dude, what are you queer?!1, dude?!/!?1

 

[Avalon]

I know if I was there at the game and drunk off my ass, I'd be pissing every 10 seconds, and there's no fucking way I'd sit there listening to God Bless America if I really had to go. There's no disrespect to it, if you gotta go you gotta go. It's that simple. If they want to throw someone out for being a belligerent asshole, go for it. If they want to throw people out for getting up when they have to piss, that's plain bullshit. I don't understand how this thread is even 3 pages long. There's no argument to make.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'm with you about him being a belligerent ass and getting thrown out but you lose me when you suggest that he should have obeyed any request to wait until this nationalistic song if finished before he used the facilities. Personally I'm thinking this is not the case and that he was just being a dick but if it was the case and it's verified by witnesses then he has a good case for a lawsuit.

The again this is the Yankees and all of us in the Boston area can confirm that the Yankees suck!!!

Red, since everyone loves analogies here....

If I were at a function and they suggested everyone take a moment of silence out of respect for whatever then I wouldn't get up and attempt to take a piss right as soon as it starts...

Same thing as a ball game, if they ask everyone sit for the song or stand or whatever then I will stay and be respectful.

Though in this case I think there is more to the guys behavior than this....guess the lawsuit will show one way or another.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: bozack

Red, since everyone loves analogies here....

If I were at a function and they suggested everyone take a moment of silence out of respect for whatever then I wouldn't get up and attempt to take a piss right as soon as it starts...

Same thing as a ball game, if they ask everyone sit for the song or stand or whatever then I will stay and be respectful.

The capacity of Yankee Stadium is over 50,000. Try telling EVERYONE to hold it at any given moment. It's not going to happen.

Though in this case I think there is more to the guys behavior than this....guess the lawsuit will show one way or another.

Exactly. What anyone suspects or insists is "likely" is irrelevant. The only relevant issues are the facts in this case.

 

[Tab3076]

Originally posted by: marincounty
My initial reaction is that this guy is probably a douchebag that was drunk. But thinking about it, baseball and football stadiums have become one of the last refuges of pseudo-patriotism. And this is the land of Rudy and 9/11 and Amadou Diallo.

Well, okay let's assume he was - so what? Why should this be any different?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Harvey
The capacity of Yankee Stadium is over 50,000. Try telling EVERYONE to hold it at any given moment. It's not going to happen.
.....
Exactly. What anyone suspects or insists is "likely" is irrelevant. The only relevant issues are the facts in this case.

Will power is an amazing thing Harvey, don't put it past a group of ppl that it is possible.

And like I said above, this guy knows he is being a dick, he should be responsible for all associated court fees when he loses.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Harvey

The capacity of Yankee Stadium is over 50,000. Try telling EVERYONE to hold it at any given moment. It's not going to happen.
.....
Exactly. What anyone suspects or insists is "likely" is irrelevant. The only relevant issues are the facts in this case.

Will power is an amazing thing Harvey, don't put it past a group of ppl that it is possible.

I had surgury for BPH, and I can tell you for certain that it's WAY beyond your faulty reasoning to expect EVERYONE in EVERY case to be able to postpone their need to run for the can. Or haven't you seen the ads for Flomax?

And like I said above, this guy knows he is being a dick, he should be responsible for all associated court fees when he loses.

As I've asked everyone who's so damned certain the guy was being a dick, exactly HOW do you know this? Were you there to witness the event? If not, you don't know jack shit about it. :roll:

And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Harvey

The capacity of Yankee Stadium is over 50,000. Try telling EVERYONE to hold it at any given moment. It's not going to happen.
.....
Exactly. What anyone suspects or insists is "likely" is irrelevant. The only relevant issues are the facts in this case.

Will power is an amazing thing Harvey, don't put it past a group of ppl that it is possible.

I had surgury for BPH, and I can tell you for certain that it's WAY beyond your faulty reasoning to expect EVERYONE in EVERY case to be able to postpone their need to run for the can. Or haven't you seen the ads for Flomax?

And like I said above, this guy knows he is being a dick, he should be responsible for all associated court fees when he loses.

As I've asked everyone who's so damned certain the guy was being a dick, exactly HOW do you know this? Were you there to witness the event? If not, you don't know jack shit about it. :roll:

And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

If you can't hold it for the 45 seconds it takes to play the song then don't go to a Yankees game.. very simple. If they ask people to respect the song you can choose not to by not going. If its that bad that the extra 45 seconds is going to make or break you then wear the adult diapers because you are going to lose it anyway. What happens if you are on the freeway and its 2 miles to the next exit and its too dangerous to stop at the side of the road? My guess is hold it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'm with you about him being a belligerent ass and getting thrown out but you lose me when you suggest that he should have obeyed any request to wait until this nationalistic song if finished before he used the facilities. Personally I'm thinking this is not the case and that he was just being a dick but if it was the case and it's verified by witnesses then he has a good case for a lawsuit.

The again this is the Yankees and all of us in the Boston area can confirm that the Yankees suck!!!

Red, since everyone loves analogies here....

If I were at a function and they suggested everyone take a moment of silence out of respect for whatever then I wouldn't get up and attempt to take a piss right as soon as it starts...

Same thing as a ball game, if they ask everyone sit for the song or stand or whatever then I will stay and be respectful.

Though in this case I think there is more to the guys behavior than this....guess the lawsuit will show one way or another.

Well the thing about being respectful is that it's a voluntary act. When it's not it really isn't respect, it's authoritarian. I've been to at least a hundred Giants and A's games when I lived back in the Bay Area, I never ever heard of anyone being mandated to sit and show respect for even the National Anthem let alone God Bless America. Besides, beer sales usually end in the 7th inning, God Bless America usually places a distant second to another beer. I think this guy was just being a drunken asshole.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Harvey
And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Who forced anybody to hold their bladder? The Police have stated that he was ejected for drunkenness and cursing. Out of the millions of people that attend games at Yankee stadium, why is this the only occurrence? No one else has to go to the bathroom during the 7th inning stretch? Have you ever been to a baseball game or sporting event?

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Let's see if this suit even goes to trial before even considering the Plaintiff's assertions.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Harvey
And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Who forced anybody to hold their bladder? The Police have stated that he was ejected for drunkenness and cursing. Out of the millions of people that attend games at Yankee stadium, why is this the only occurrence? No one else has to go to the bathroom during the 7th inning stretch? Have you ever been to a baseball game or sporting event?

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Let's see if this suit even goes to trial before even considering the Plaintiff's assertions.

Just because the police said something doesn't make it true, independent eye witnesses refute at least parts of the drunk and disorderly claim. Besides this is far from an isolated incident, just the first that made it to a court case.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'm with you about him being a belligerent ass and getting thrown out but you lose me when you suggest that he should have obeyed any request to wait until this nationalistic song if finished before he used the facilities. Personally I'm thinking this is not the case and that he was just being a dick but if it was the case and it's verified by witnesses then he has a good case for a lawsuit.

The again this is the Yankees and all of us in the Boston area can confirm that the Yankees suck!!!

Red, since everyone loves analogies here....

If I were at a function and they suggested everyone take a moment of silence out of respect for whatever then I wouldn't get up and attempt to take a piss right as soon as it starts...

Same thing as a ball game, if they ask everyone sit for the song or stand or whatever then I will stay and be respectful.

Though in this case I think there is more to the guys behavior than this....guess the lawsuit will show one way or another.

You said the key word 'suggested'. This isn't the Yankee's suggesting that everybody stand still for the playing of a song, this is them making everyone and ejecting those who don't comply.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Harvey
And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Who forced anybody to hold their bladder? The Police have stated that he was ejected for drunkenness and cursing. Out of the millions of people that attend games at Yankee stadium, why is this the only occurrence? No one else has to go to the bathroom during the 7th inning stretch? Have you ever been to a baseball game or sporting event?

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Let's see if this suit even goes to trial before even considering the Plaintiff's assertions.

Just because the police said something doesn't make it true, independent eye witnesses refute at least parts of the drunk and disorderly claim. Besides this is far from an isolated incident, just the first that made it to a court case.

It hasn't made it to court. Just that he filed a lawsuit. There are also witnesses that corroborate the police's statement.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Harvey

And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Who forced anybody to hold their bladder? The Police have stated that he was ejected for drunkenness and cursing.

The police have their own vested interest in promoting their version of the story. If you weren't there, you're another who's opening his mouth without knowing jack shit about what happened. There are witnesses. There will be a hearing. The guy may have been out of line, or the cops could be pushing that line in an attempt to cover their asses.

Out of the millions of people that attend games at Yankee stadium, why is this the only occurrence? No one else has to go to the bathroom during the 7th inning stretch? Have you ever been to a baseball game or sporting event?

You don't know that, either. This may just be the first such case to get press coverage. The New York Civil Liberties Union has taken up the case so they must think it has some merit.

I don't give a rat's ass if you want to rag on the New York Civil Liberties Union or the ACLU, or any other such organization. They'll be using real attorneys so, unless you're also an attorney, they're far more credible than you.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Let's see if this suit even goes to trial before even considering the Plaintiff's assertions.

You may want to consider your own advice before you continue posting such hostility and denial about the guy's charges. :roll:

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Harvey

And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Who forced anybody to hold their bladder? The Police have stated that he was ejected for drunkenness and cursing.

The police have their own vested interest in promoting their version of the story. If you weren't there, you're another who's opening his mouth without knowing jack shit about what happened. There are witnesses. There will be a hearing. The guy may have been out of line, or the cops could be pushing that line in an attempt to cover their asses.

Out of the millions of people that attend games at Yankee stadium, why is this the only occurrence? No one else has to go to the bathroom during the 7th inning stretch? Have you ever been to a baseball game or sporting event?

You don't know that, either. This may just be the first such case to get press coverage. The New York Civil Liberties Union has taken up the case so they must think it has some merit.

I don't give a rat's ass if you want to rag on the New York Civil Liberties Union or the ACLU, or any other such organization. They'll be using real attorneys so, unless you're also an attorney, they're far more credible than you.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Let's see if this suit even goes to trial before even considering the Plaintiff's assertions.

You may want to consider your own advice before you continue posting such hostility and denial about the guy's charges. :roll:

:laugh:

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Harvey
I had surgury for BPH, and I can tell you for certain that it's WAY beyond your faulty reasoning to expect EVERYONE in EVERY case to be able to postpone their need to run for the can. Or haven't you seen the ads for Flomax?
............

As I've asked everyone who's so damned certain the guy was being a dick, exactly HOW do you know this? Were you there to witness the event? If not, you don't know jack shit about it. :roll:

And as I said to Capt Caveman, don't bother replying until someone forces you to hold your bladder or your bowels when you really have to go, just to wait out a freaking song.

Sorry Harvey, maybe when I am a geezer and have these problems I will be able to sympathize....and I have been in quite a few situations that required me to "hold it" because they didn't have public restrooms, sucked but you don't see me suing the places.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: SViscusi
You said the key word 'suggested'. This isn't the Yankee's suggesting that everybody stand still for the playing of a song, this is them making everyone and ejecting those who don't comply.

Ahh yes, I should have said insisted, as when people ask others to take a moment of silence it isn't really a suggestion.

And they only ejected one person....using the pervailing logic here that of the 50,000 the chances that many many others were up and about at that time one might wonder why they picked on this one individual.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: SViscusi
You said the key word 'suggested'. This isn't the Yankee's suggesting that everybody stand still for the playing of a song, this is them making everyone and ejecting those who don't comply.

Ahh yes, I should have said insisted, as when people ask others to take a moment of silence it isn't really a suggestion.

Don't you think their insistence is over the line? It's not reasonable to expect 50,000 fans to sit quietly on command. Do the Yankees have to right to kick people out for booing or for not cheering loud enough as well?

And they only ejected one person....using the pervailing logic here that of the 50,000 the chances that many many others were up and about at that time one might wonder why they picked on this one individual.

Well it's not just one person, this is just the first to sue. Reports over the past few years have been trickling out about this kind of behavior, and that's only the people who've complained.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: SViscusi
You said the key word 'suggested'. This isn't the Yankee's suggesting that everybody stand still for the playing of a song, this is them making everyone and ejecting those who don't comply.

Ahh yes, I should have said insisted, as when people ask others to take a moment of silence it isn't really a suggestion.

Don't you think their insistence is over the line? It's not reasonable to expect 50,000 fans to sit quietly on command. Do the Yankees have to right to kick people out for booing or for not cheering loud enough as well?


YES!!! They do. They can ask you to leave for just about any reason they want.. except for things like being a black person.