Yankees being sued....

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic
So are you saying that one should be required to be perfectly calm at a ball game? Or are you saying that refraining from taking a piss during the playing of 'God Bless America' at a Yankees game represents a proper conservative mindset (and only a proper conservative mindset)?

Are you really this fscking partisan stupid? Really?

And the twisting begins...

I am saying that one should be respectful when the time calls for being such. I am saying that the liberals are twisting this into a conservative or nationalistic issue because of the issue cited, when the reality is that more than likely it was just a convenient excuse to boot someone who was being a dickhead.

Chances are this guy knows he was a drunken jackass, disobeyed the request of the security guard or whomever to hold his piss for three minutes and is now going to waste taxpayer money on yet another friviolous lawsuit.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

My bad. I updated. So, are people in not allowed to get out of their seat for 'God Bless America' but it's alright for the National Anthem?

I know when I've gone to games, a lot of the time, it's when the National Anthem is playing.

More than likely this is why he was booted: "Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said"

Why do we bother with courts of law when internet posters already know it all?

And there are no bogus law suits? Funny, how no other paper has picked this story up and he's suing now. Why didn't he make a stink about it then?

Have you ever been to a baseball game? The 7th Inning Stretch where traditional, everyone gets out of their seats to stretch.

How about some proof that there is such a policy at Yankees stadium? Again, another frivolous lawsuit.

I'm not the one who's already made up his mind about this scenario on the basis of a single news article that I didn't even read sufficiently to know which song was actually being played.

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: bozack
Far Fetched mabye....please and your bit about living in the past is funny, using that as a rational should we also assume that there could be another holocaust, and of course you think it is a fantastic argument as your the one who proposed such a stupid analogy.

LOL

1. Wasn't my analogy, it was Jschmuck2's.
2. The past reflects the present.
3. It was a good analogy because it destroyed your assumption that because they run the place, they can boot people out for whatever reason they want. No they don't have EVERY right to boot him, just some rights.

Originally posted by: bozack
As for your followup lame analogy, I can be certain that I will not place myself in such a situation, and if they did throw me out at least I'd get the chance to piss.

Yeah.... piss your pants if you don't find a bottle or bush fast enough.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
So are you saying that one should be required to be perfectly calm at a ball game? Or are you saying that refraining from taking a piss during the playing of 'God Bless America' at a Yankees game represents a proper conservative mindset (and only a proper conservative mindset)?

Are you really this fscking partisan stupid? Really?

And the twisting begins...

I am saying that one should be respectful when the time calls for being such. I am saying that the liberals are twisting this into a conservative or nationalistic issue because of the issue cited, when the reality is that more than likely it was just a convenient excuse to boot someone who was being a dickhead.

Chances are this guy knows he was a drunken jackass, disobeyed the request of the security guard or whomever to hold his piss for three minutes and is now going to waste taxpayer money on yet another friviolous lawsuit.

Backpedaling bullshit...

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm not the one who's already made up his mind about this scenario on the basis of a single news article that I didn't even read sufficiently to know which song was actually being played.

Given the number of bullshit lawsuits that have been brought in the past by so many "wronged" how can people not help but jump to conclusions....

The guy got booted from a ballgame, life is too short, he should just get over it and move on.

I agree with Capt for once, there should be a law mandating anyone who brings something like this to trial and loses should have to be responsible for all of the expenses if they lose.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: CLite
1) It happened LAST August, 26
2) he is still a ticket holder
3) People piss all the time during the 7th inning stretch

The guy was probably a drunken asshole and got thrown out. I wish rules existed in the U.S. that the party filing for sueing would have to pay for the other side's legal fees if they lost. Stupid lawsuit by a guaranteed low life.

More than likely the case and he's using the National Anthem as an excuse. People are up and walking around the stadium, using the bathroom, inside getting food, etc through out the game. What happens if I'm I'm in the bathroom when the Anthem starts? Am I allowed to go back to my seat? Or must I wait til it's over?

Anyone that has been to any sporting event will know what the plaintiff is alleging is complete bs.

When did "God Bless America" become the National Anthem?

RTFA

My bad. I updated. So, are people in not allowed to get out of their seat for 'God Bless America' but it's alright for the National Anthem?

I know when I've gone to games, a lot of the time, it's when the National Anthem is playing.

More than likely this is why he was booted: "Campeau-Laurion, a media company Web director, was booted because he was drunk and cursing, the NYPD said"

Why do we bother with courts of law when internet posters already know it all?

And there are no bogus law suits? Funny, how no other paper has picked this story up and he's suing now. Why didn't he make a stink about it then?

Have you ever been to a baseball game? The 7th Inning Stretch where traditional, everyone gets out of their seats to stretch.

How about some proof that there is such a policy at Yankees stadium? Again, another frivolous lawsuit.

I'm not the one who's already made up his mind about this scenario on the basis of a single news article that I didn't even read sufficiently to know which song was actually being played.

Thanks for answering my questions. Oh noes, I typed National Anthem instead of 'God Bless America', it's so material to the argument. Weak comeback kid.

Next time the Yankees are on tv, how much you want to bet you'll see people getting out of their seats and walking around the stadium during 'God Bless America'?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
LOL
1. Wasn't my analogy, it was Jschmuck2's.
2. The past reflects the present.
3. It was a good analogy because it destroyed your assumption that because they run the place, they can boot people out for whatever reason they want. No they don't have EVERY right to boot him, just some rights.

Originally posted by: bozack
As for your followup lame analogy, I can be certain that I will not place myself in such a situation, and if they did throw me out at least I'd get the chance to piss.

Yeah.... piss your pants if you don't find a bottle or bush fast enough.

1. My bad, I must have mistook his drivel for yours.

2. Really, then would you suggest that applies to everything all the time, or just this weak argument?

3. I openly said that personally I have no problem with a private establishment booting whomever they want for whatever reason they want, so it didn't destroy any assumptions at all on my part...

4. And at that point who cares so why bother with a bottle or a bush?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm not the one who's already made up his mind about this scenario on the basis of a single news article that I didn't even read sufficiently to know which song was actually being played.

Given the number of bullshit lawsuits that have been brought in the past by so many "wronged" how can people not help but jump to conclusions....

The guy got booted from a ballgame, life is too short, he should just get over it and move on.

I agree with Capt for once, there should be a law mandating anyone who brings something like this to trial and loses should have to be responsible for all of the expenses if they lose.

Desperate justification for wanting to shred the petition clause of the 1st amendment.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic
Backpedaling bullshit...

To sound cliche given that you seem to be the master I guess you would know.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic

Desperate justification for wanting to shred the petition clause of the 1st amendment.

Shred shred shred away!

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: JSFLY
LOL
1. Wasn't my analogy, it was Jschmuck2's.
2. The past reflects the present.
3. It was a good analogy because it destroyed your assumption that because they run the place, they can boot people out for whatever reason they want. No they don't have EVERY right to boot him, just some rights.

Originally posted by: bozack
As for your followup lame analogy, I can be certain that I will not place myself in such a situation, and if they did throw me out at least I'd get the chance to piss.

Yeah.... piss your pants if you don't find a bottle or bush fast enough.

1. My bad, I must have mistook his drivel for yours.

2. Really, then would you suggest that applies to everything all the time, or just this weak argument?

3. I openly said that personally I have no problem with a private establishment booting whomever they want for whatever reason they want, so it didn't destroy any assumptions at all on my part...

4. And at that point who cares so why bother with a bottle or a bush?

1. Yes your bad.

2. I just threw that line in for the hell of it, and your wanting to argue over it? laugh.

3. The laws of the United States of America > Your personal opinion. Yes your assumption that "the Yankees can boot people out for whatever reason they want" was destroyed, obliterated, annihilated.

4. I personally would prefer a toilet, which is why I am in opposition of getting kicked out for wanting to use the restroom. I guess some people don't have a sense of self respect and would rather piss their pants.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic

Desperate justification for wanting to shred the petition clause of the 1st amendment.

Shred shred shred away!

There is nothing more ironic IMO than when a self-professed conservative utters the words, "there should be a law." Next thing you know, some liberal is gonna be demanding we "stay the course."

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
1. Yes your bad.

2. I just threw that line in for the hell of it, and your wanting to argue over it? laugh.

3. The laws of the United States of America > Your personal opinion. Yes your assumption that "the Yankees can boot people out for whatever reason they want" was destroyed, obliterated, annihilated.

4. I personally would prefer a toilet, which is why I am in opposition of getting kicked out for wanting to use the restroom. I guess some people don't have a sense of self respect and would rather piss their pants.

Less than a complete sentence is an arguement? pathetic.

And where did I say that they could boot ppl for whatever they wanted? I said they should be able to, and they can in some instances (barring race, religious, or other protected areas of the law) apparently this being one of them.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Vic
There is nothing more ironic IMO than when a self-professed conservative utters the words, "there should be a law." Next thing you know, some liberal is gonna be demanding we "stay the course."

Laws that prevent waste of taxpayer money to be exact....and who knows given the messiah is in charge I wouldn't be surprised if those worse are uttered from many a liberal in the near future.

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: bozack
Less than a complete sentence is an arguement? pathetic.

Your lack of comprehension is astounding.

Originally posted by: bozack
And where did I say that they could boot ppl for whatever they wanted?

You don't even know what you wrote 5 min ago. Go read what you wrote. Wait no don't even bother....

Look...... You used the word strawman without knowing what it meant, thinking it'll make you look smart. People called you out on it, and you felt embarrassed. So now you feel like you gotta protect yourself, and you do this by spouting even more rubbish and nonsense. Sorry bud, I aint got time to play your game. Go find someone else.

 

[Fear No Evil]

:music: And Whos's Watching Over Who's Watching Over when you piss?
Tell me, who's telling who's telling you when to piss when to piss? :music:

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
[Look...... You used the word strawman without knowing what it meant, thinking it'll make you look smart. People called you out on it, and you felt embarrassed. So now you feel like you gotta protect yourself, and you do this by spouting even more rubbish and nonsense. Sorry bud, I aint got time to play your game. Go find someone else.

Strawman, to substitue a similar yet weaker argument and subsequently knock it down in an effort to add credence to the position.

Taking the argument that it is ok for them to have booted this guy because he supposedly only had to piss during a song that is played during a moment of rememberence and then instead substituting one which suggests then it would be ok to disallow people from entering based on their skin color is a bullshit analogy, period.

and as for the psychoanalyzing bit...Hopefully you're not a shrink, cause your just not that smart guy.

 

[Lazy8s]

I'm going to reserve judgment for some court testimony of surrounding people. I have a hard time believing he got tossed for not listening to the anthem. My guess is he was drunk and got out of hand, it just happened to be during the anthem. Anyone who has spent time around law enforcement knows drunk people use any excuse they can possibly think of other than they were a drunken idiot.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: JSFLY
[Look...... You used the word strawman without knowing what it meant, thinking it'll make you look smart. People called you out on it, and you felt embarrassed. So now you feel like you gotta protect yourself, and you do this by spouting even more rubbish and nonsense. Sorry bud, I aint got time to play your game. Go find someone else.

Strawman, to substitue a similar yet weaker argument and subsequently knock it down in an effort to add credence to the position.

Taking the argument that it is ok for them to have booted this guy because he supposedly only had to piss during a song that is played during a moment of rememberence and then instead substituting one which suggests then it would be ok to disallow people from entering based on their skin color is a bullshit analogy, period.

and as for the psychoanalyzing bit...Hopefully you're not a shrink, cause your just not that smart guy.

That didn't occur. A comparison was made and that's where it ended.

 

[SViscusi]

This isn't the first time that this has happened. There have been multiple reports over the years of the Yankees doing this, even going as far as to chain the door to sections shut to keep people from moving around.

Link

Seconds before ?The Star-Spangled Banner? and ?God Bless America? are played, police officers, security guards and ushers turn their backs to the American flag in center field, stare at fans moving through the stands and ask them to stop. Across the stadium?s lower section, ushers stand every 20 feet to block the main aisle with chains.

...

Only the Yankees continue to play ?God Bless America? at every home game. They are also the only ones to use chains to prevent fans from moving during both songs, which concerns some civil liberties advocates.

Also the claim by the NYPD that they ejected the fan because he was drunk and disorderly was refuted by another witness a few days later. And even a witness provided by the Yankees could only claim that the man swore after the cops wouldn't let him thru.

Link

Meanwhile, after seeing CBS 2's report on the incident, witness Pete Montenez contacted CBS 2 to refute the officers' story. He does not know Campeau-Laurion, but was sitting near him during the game, saying he watched as it all went down. "As far as him hootin' and hollerin' and standing on the chair, no way," he says. But a spokesperson fro Yankee Stadium put CBS 2 in touch with another fan who says Campeau-Laurion cursed at police when they asked him to stay for the song.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
:music: And Whos's Watching Over Who's Watching Over when you piss?
Tell me, who's telling who's telling you when to piss when to piss? :music:

Apparently you would be if you had your way.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Vic
There is nothing more ironic IMO than when a self-professed conservative utters the words, "there should be a law." Next thing you know, some liberal is gonna be demanding we "stay the course."

Laws that prevent waste of taxpayer money to be exact....and who knows given the messiah is in charge I wouldn't be surprised if those worse are uttered from many a liberal in the near future.

And now the mindless utterings of a bitter braindead troll. Dude, you are sad.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: sandorski
That didn't occur. A comparison was made and that's where it ended.

The comparison was leading to the possible argument.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: robphelan
i think Ray Charles' version of God Bless America should be our new national anthem.

edit: btw, i thought this was a 'free' country

I do too, as soon as someone can show me where the country called America is on the map.

 

[her209]

Title 36 United States Code:
§ 301. National Anthem.
(a) Designation. ? The composition consisting of the words and music known as
the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. ? During a rendition of the national anthem ?
(1) when the flag is displayed ?
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and
hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the
anthem and maintain that position until the last note.
(2) When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music
and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

EDIT: Oh, nvm, the article said "God Bless America". Fuck that!